I went on the fat fast about 7months ago I lost 43 lbs on that diet. The carb cravings were too much just like ironbabe I had some serious backlash. I also lost a lot of muscle on that diet. I was doing martial arts 2x week, lifting 3x week and running on off days. I want to get my bodyfat down and my muscle up (I know don’t we all). Anyway I have been doing Pavel Kettlebell training to get back into it after taking a couple months off of any fitness. My question is this. I have heard that you should not go on a muscle gaining program until you get your bodyfat % down low. Mine is at 16% I am 227lbs and 6 ft. The only place I have fat is my belly. Sad but true. I have read all the diets/workouts on this site and I am stuck in analysis paralysis. I want help deciding what to do with this. Do I fat fast the weight off again then ease back to normal diet? Do I t-dawg the fat off then ease into normal? Do I eat massive diet and try to gain muscle while I lose Fat? Do I just clean up my diet and lift and not worry about the fat? BTW I would qualify as a newby as I seem to only stick to a program for a couple months then become a couch potato. If so what workout/diet would you suggest? I am back into my martial arts and I am ready to try another program I want to gain muscle but the fat around my belly makes me sick. Any suggestions welcome. I realize this will most likely illicit a number of ass kickings but I am ok with that.
I would really like to see what you have to say to this post. I respect all your science and you obviously get results so I want to know what your response would be to this (harsh or not). Thank you in advance.
Hypothetically, if you diet down, then go for mass, the contrast between the two cycles can increase your gains. I don’t know any study that supports this though. Still fat gain comes with mass gain so you’ll be increasng your BF to a higher level if you don’t lean out a little first. HOWEVER, consistency is the most important variable, and you’re missing it! Find a training regime and diet that you can stick to for eight weeks. Then cycle onto a different regime. Take a week of if you need and don’t be too drastic. Try GBC and massive Eating with calories tailored to fat loss. Good Luck.
well, all the diets worked for me as long as I was tweaking the calories to fit my caloric expenditure. But yeah, you are going to lose some muscle when ya cut up, but in my opinion, it’s not really the muscle that I worry about as long as I’m getting a more ripped look to my muscle tone, ya know? All about proportion. So, yeah, the lifting keeps the tone, and the running helps burn the fat. I guess that with the T-dawg, you can speed up the fat burn if ya add some cardio. Just add what is right for you in terms of how ambitious you are and stuff. I think that it’s just about how you modulate the dynamic equilibria that makes up human body chemistry i.e. tweak your chosen diet, chosen weight training program, and cardio until it BECOMES right for you.
Knuckledragger…the whopper 2 cents. 16% aint all that bad…What I am doing currently is the T-dawg, with massive eating mixed. Because of all the stress of late my diet went to hell in a handbasket for a while. So I started the t-dawg…did it for 3 weeks, now this week, am adding in some carb/pro meals…and…whalla! we have massive eating! I will do that for a couple of weeks…perhaps 3 and see how it goes…before switching back to T-dawg. I know JB says that Massive can be used for fat loss…but for me…being on a keto diet is just a psychological thing with losing weight for me…I for some reason feel I lose weight better following keto diets…and YES it is all in my head…I know that! The two diets tho really complement eacxh other…all you do to swich back and forth is cut out or add in the carb/pro meals. As far as training…switch it up! Dont just go with whatever is in T-mag…make up your own…try goofy things. What I have been doing…which is the best thing I have done yet…is a fixed/variable program. I lift on a 4 on/one off…with the workouts as follows. For example chest: The first chest workout will be logged…and has fixed excercises everything about it is carefully put in the training log. Now, say I do that on Monday. When saturday comes…and it is chest again…there is NO logbook…NO set excercises…just whatever you feel like doing for chest…any set/rep routine…any excercises. Feel like doing 10 sets of cable crossovers? do them!! Now when the next chest workout comes up…it is back to the logbook…and the exact same excersizes again…again carefully logging all progress. This way you dont get stale…it keeps it fun, and yet you have a consistant monitor of your progress. Just my thought…I started this program 6 weeks ago…and still love it…it is working real well for me…and keeps me happy to see the weights!
I would say focus on your dedication first. No offense and not to sound harsh, but if you’re just going to follow a diet and training (any one) for just a little while and then be a couch potato, then don’t worry. Just be a couch potato. First, get whatever you think is holding you back out the way. Be it Financial, relationships, or whatever it may be so that you’re focused. I know you can’t get rid of all stress, but that which you can, do. If you just get lazy after awhile, then decide which is more important, being in shape or watching Johnny Bravo reruns. Once you’re ready mentally, then just pick and choose. Here’s what I would do (because I have before). Clean up your diet and first develop a baseline to work against. First, determine you level of maintenence caloric level (which I use bodyweight(in pounds) X 12, but I think John gives a more accurate calculation in massive eating. Then, divide your meals into 40/40/20 of protein, carbs, and fat, respectively. Eat six meals a day and don’t worry too much on supplements other than MRPs and some flax seed oil. As far as training, the beginner’s blast off program is a good beginning. Maybe a little couple more sets per workout, but the outline if fine. I would add aerobics after each workout, however. This will work well. Is this the most effective diet and training? No, but since you haven’t really been training, bogging yourself down with lots of tweaking or restrictions will only complicate matters and/or discourage you. This is a simple enough program that is effective and will help you get in tune with yourself, which I think is important before you jump into the more advanced and effective diets on T-mag. I also say don’t use too many supplements because even though you want to lose fat (and T2 and MD6 are incredible products), the aerobics and controlled caloric intake will help you lose fat on this baseline program. I hope this helps.
Mostly it was woman and work. Now it is just work related. I believe I have that in order now that is why I am trying to pursue it again. I am not lazy. If anything I end up working harder instead of smarter when it comes to my health. I wanted advice on the best way to get back to it permanant instead of in great shape then crappy then great then crappy I have cycled between that since I started 3 years ago I want to make permanent changes but I want to make the right ones. Thank you all for your advice I am not offended in fact you guys have been really nice I would still like to hear from Coach Davies and John b as I have really liked what I have read from them. What they recommend to start and stay in the iron game.
My thoughts are that you have a tremendous training session right now with Pavels kbell program. Proudly holding the rank of a “RENEGADE COMRADE” I may suggest additional non & weighted GPP. Let me know how I can help.
In faith,
Coach Davies
I did a search on the website and cannot find the beginner’s blast off program?
see my response in my new post. Thank you,
Knuckle