I need to update this thread, sorry for slacking, I was hoping other folks would update also (to those that are, thanks).
And yes I’m referring to the gay for pay, recreational drug use, abuse of other legal drugs, cheating, relying on handouts for drugs, sluttiness of competitors (male and female), self-esteem issues, etc. Quite literally, its like that joke where people say, if a girl ends up a stripper she her dad failed. Its like second place is IFBB bodybuilding (if they didn’t already work as a stripper part time).
Best bet, is stick to the magazines and only the publicized stuff, you’ll enjoy the sport a lot more. Unless your idea of heroes are more akin to Sodomites and Gomorrians than super heroes.
Big Bad Wolf looks huge right now…shoulders are like the same size as his head…ridiculous[/quote]
He looks like a giant yellow gorilla. That shirt is 10 sizes to big from his pec down yet he stretches it at his chest shoulders and traps. What a beast
I’d like to see him top 3, but I’d be excited for top 5. I always like Wolf, and I have felt the past couple years he’s been cheated in placing compared to Branch. I like Branch’s monster mass, but Wolf is a lot more aesthetic, flows better, has better proportions, and its more difficult putting mass on a 5’10" frame than a 5’5’" frame (I don’t know their exact heights, but there is a drastic difference).
[quote]SSC wrote:
Not sure how I’ve missed this so far, but in.
On another site, there is an anonymous (supposedly) IFBB Pro who’s been answering a lot of questions. He had mentioned that recently judges had seen the recent Kai “under the towel” video, and as we all know the old video that got attention. He speculated that for these reasons Kai will NEVER win an O title. While that seems unfair, if you want to really be the face of something like Bodybuilding as a whole, you had better be more cognizant of the things going on around you, the decisions made and how those will affect your immediate or long-term future.
Thoughts?[/quote]
I read that thread… lol
kai is always wearing bdsm masks onstage… it makes no sense that he didn’t wear something like that while doing his fruit porn… but like the mystery IFBB pro, I believe that he will never be Mr. O because of it
I really hope that heath doesn’t win either, IMO he’s a little shit. IFBB bodybuilding is essentially the only sport that you can’t cheat in, but he still found a way (standing a good foot and a half in front of the line)…
I honestly believe that Kai is the better bodybuilder, but politics in bodybuilding is too influential… and it always has been when you think about it (columbo vs padilla etc). it is only when the level of development is SO unequal that justice is served, for example Ramy vs Martinez in Martinez’s home turf.
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Wanna give any clues as to which site this is on? I haven’t seen it anywhere
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
I’d like to see him top 3, but I’d be excited for top 5. I always like Wolf, and I have felt the past couple years he’s been cheated in placing compared to Branch. I like Branch’s monster mass, but Wolf is a lot more aesthetic, flows better, has better proportions, and its more difficult putting mass on a 5’10" frame than a 5’5’" frame (I don’t know their exact heights, but there is a drastic difference).[/quote]
Could not agree more with this. I think Branch Warren is so unaesthetic. Wolf’s taper is awesome and has some crazy size. His shoulders are absolutely unreal compared to most of his competitors. I highly doubt the judges will take him over Branch though and I have no idea why that is.
[quote]Highjumper wrote:
That last picture makes his calves look small cause his quads are so dam big[/quote]
Yeah, calves are his weak point, but they arent particularly bad, its just that his quads are massive.
I dont think they are lagging enough to make a huge difference in the way the judges will score him though. He’s going to make this a very interesting year at the O.
There are a couple videos of him training before the New York Pro I believe. Think he did Chest or some such. Probably the best reference you’ll get for now.
I would love to see Ramy come in and sweep on his Olympia debut. He’s going to be over 280 on stage… sick! I think Phil was in the 240’s or something, maybe 250’s. Yes, its an illusion, but that’s a LOT of extra muscle.
[quote]Highjumper wrote:
That last picture makes his calves look small cause his quads are so dam big[/quote]
Yeah, calves are his weak point, but they arent particularly bad, its just that his quads are massive.
I dont think they are lagging enough to make a huge difference in the way the judges will score him though. He’s going to make this a very interesting year at the O. [/quote]
Ya they’re not bad but nothing compared to the rest of him
My god he is huge though
[quote]Highjumper wrote:
That last picture makes his calves look small cause his quads are so dam big[/quote]
Yeah, calves are his weak point, but they arent particularly bad, its just that his quads are massive.
I dont think they are lagging enough to make a huge difference in the way the judges will score him though. He’s going to make this a very interesting year at the O. [/quote]
Ya they’re not bad but nothing compared to the rest of him
My god he is huge though
Why does Ramy have a double-chin at that level of leanness? Is it genetic, where he needs to get to a lower BF % to eliminate his face bloat, or is it the stuff he’s taking (or a combo of the two)?
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Why does Ramy have a double-chin at that level of leanness? Is it genetic, where he needs to get to a lower BF % to eliminate his face bloat, or is it the stuff he’s taking (or a combo of the two)?[/quote]
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Why does Ramy have a double-chin at that level of leanness? Is it genetic, where he needs to get to a lower BF % to eliminate his face bloat, or is it the stuff he’s taking (or a combo of the two)?[/quote]
I’d imagine its mostly water combined with how his face is shaped.
I hate Ramy’s look… his quads look so full of oil it makes his calves look terrible. I think he’d be lucky to place top 5 in his first showing though. He will be future Mr. O, no doubt, but not at his debut.
I can see top 3, after that it really doesn’t matter…
Heath
Kai
Cutler
Its water retension. Look at all of the pro’s in offseason. What is there bodyfat at nowadays, 15% or so maybe? Most have abs in off-season, so I’d say that’s the highest they go. Almost all of them have fat faces due to water retension, but once in Olympia shape they look far leaner in the face. Compare their faces in stage condition to a natural’s stage condition facial appearance, the natural’s face looks emaciated in comparison. Why? Because they aren’t retaining and fighting off the bloat from the drugs.
Ramy is awesome. I think his Quads look crazy with that sweep. I don’t think Synthol can give that kind of sweep, otherwise why aren’t all the pro’s sporting that kind of mass? I’d say its very much genetic. Could be wrong though, I’ve read threads where guys Synth’d for a sweep and it did improve, but it didn’t look like that!
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
Ramy is awesome. I think his Quads look crazy with that sweep. I don’t think Synthol can give that kind of sweep, otherwise why aren’t all the pro’s sporting that kind of mass? I’d say its very much genetic. Could be wrong though, I’ve read threads where guys Synth’d for a sweep and it did improve, but it didn’t look like that![/quote]
Is there actually a good summary somewhere of what can be done nowadays with synthol & co (possibly with pics)? All I read are some vague comments/accusations here and there.
