Hmm. I’ll be thinking about this on my drive to the office, but I’m not sure risk tolerance covers it. If it did, @anna_5588 would not be experiencing the issues she is, which of course is her exact goal. To push to the redline and beyond, and somehow thrive.
Which brings me to men vs women, both physically and mentally.
Edit: I don’t think this derails. It’s a conversation about transformation.
I am extremely risk averse
Only in some arenas.
She is absolutely risk averse when it comes to nutriton, whereas I was not. And I got the blood lipids to show from that, haha.
It doesn’t cover it entirely, no, but I think it’s a significant contributor. Lots of folks stay FAR away from their limits. Good example is this deadlift set
There are a LOT of people that would have called the set at rep 12. Training to that degree is going to get different outcomes.
I read a comment from Joe Bennett that said “how many reps are needed to build muscle?..the last ones”
I’m not sure many people get to “the last ones”.
Missed this:
I have strong “internal safeties” and have yet to actually redline
Ha, see I view the eating behavior as extremely risk-taking. You’ve got a huge chorus of people screaming “my god, STOP!” and…nope.
Yeah, I can see that. (My god, STOP! lol)
Concur as well. I mean it more in that she’s unwilling to take the risk of doing the RIGHT thing. She sticks to the comfort of the known vs the risk of the unknown, despite the latter being the absolute right call.
Yup. One of my favorite Ali quotes, when he was asked how many sit-ups a day he performed to stay in shape - “I don’t know. I don’t start counting until it hurts, because they’re the only ones that count.”
The cool part about lifting is how there are different ways to get the last ones.
You can go Heavy and brief like Yates and Dante so the whole brief set is Last Ones.
You can use moderate weights and go to near failure so you get a few Last Ones. Then recover so you can go to near failure again and get a few more Last Ones. After several sets you’ve accumulated a bunch of last ones. Like Arnold or “regular” bodybuilders.
Or you can do some metabolic thing where you never exactly get to failure and never really recover. Every rep feels like the one right before the last ones. The whole thing has you breathing heavy and sweaty. Like Gironda 8 x 8.
Often “famous” lifters or well known bodybuilders are associated with one particular style. One particular way works great for them and they stick to it. I think this is what makes them “outliers” or “one offs.”
Everybody else will “adapt” or “accommodate” to the style of training they’re using. The gains will slow down, or the “negatives” of the training style will add up. Like heavyy lifting causes too much muscle damage and you can’t recover. Add high high volume beats up your joints and burns people out. Maybe metabolic work doesn’t stimulate strength gains enough to work long term.
Normal people should combine styles or rotate through styles to keep the gains coming. The freaks can stick to one way.
I vote you’re DQd from the comp…
I was thinking the same thing. Punisher does a mixture of things (crossfit-ish). He has a fully stocked home gym with the determination and commitment to push himself. That is why he looks as he looks. I don’t think it’s any particular method.
@T3hPwnisher would get muscular gains from a Zumba class or some shit 
I think I have to agree with CT here and it’s more effort and consistency that bring the gains.
“The best program done half-assed will wield less results than a shitty program done at 100%”
And @T3hPwnisher gives it a 110%!
I’m not as successful but I change methods very often as well. At first it was to see what would work on me. Then now it’s because I enjoy it more and it keeps me motivated and giving it 100%
Coming back to my original form after getting a big belly from covid, junk food, and, obviously, beer. 15 lbs down.
Probably should for the greater good.
In my ever-slowing T-ransformation news, I have a neck issue that I’ve realized with all the time I’ve taken off during Covid is a direct result of the weights and rowing. Not at all sure what to do. I’m doing significantly more stretching and occasional yoga and now leaving the erg alone, but it’s waking me up at night at this point. I guess I need to pursue it medically. At any rate, it’s taken a hit at my motivation overall, and I’m struggling. I’d lost 8 pounds, but am now back up to -6.
I have to get my head back in the game. I’ve gotten sucked into @T3hPwnisher’s log. I’m not sure whether it’s motivating me or killing me softly.
I’m like gamma radiation: I’m probably giving you cancer, but there’s a chance you turn into the Hulk…
I don’t want to get too muscular! lol
