Yes. But also, many people use the terms vegan and vegetarian loosely or without knowing their meaning. Also, many badly want to label themselves “something” even if it’s not accurate. I have a neighbor who is a “vegan” yet eats steak, lobster, and other meats. If you point this out, she says it’s only occasional (yet seems to be every time we see them socially). But she just loves to tell people she’s vegan.
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I have a friend that claims to be Vegan. His own wife called him out in front of people when he told me that. She ran down a list of stuff he has eaten that contained animal products. He said that didn’t count.
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Oh my god this is so true. People just want to be part of a group as quickly as possible, and then they radicalize and become “us vs them”. And then people will PROJECT groups onto others as well.
I remember someone asking me if I was Paleo WHILE I was drinking a Diet Coke. I just looked at them blankly for like a solid 8 seconds, then looked at what I was drinking, and then looked back at them to see if they even understood what I was asking.
Like philosophy, I think there’s a LOT of good to be had out there from the various schools of training and nutrition, but I also don’t think any one human can ultimately conform to one in it’s entirety. We’re all going to be in a shade of grey.
All that said, man, if I didn’t have a kid, I’m pretty sure I’d have gone full keto/carnivore/Jamie Lewis’ Apex Predator diet by now. It’d be too easy for me at this point, but it’s also nutrition I don’t want to model for my kid, because I know that I wanted to do EVERYTHING like my Dad growing up, to include EAT like him…which was a disaster, haha. Fried egg sandwiches for lunch every day, eating chips out of the bag on the couch, those crappy Oreo knockoffs: I had them all.
And while I’m rambling in this thread, I just had a Piedmontese pot roast earlier today, so I’m anabolic as Hell and you’re all screwed.
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My dad had a recliner. He only sat down after dark and we put mustard on the chips! I’d slap my younger self now, but I remember being upset that we had meat at every meal. Burgers, steak, roast, spaghetti with meat sauce. I treasured the Mac n cheese and hot dog meals.
I didn’t know how good I had it.
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I always get a kick out of the food with labels “caveman” on them. Or the slogan “is this what a caveman would eat?”. While I get the premise of it, it is silly when they are selling bars, powders, etc… as if caveman would eat a chocolate/almond paleo bar but not a pepperoni pizza. I’m pretty sure a caveman would eat anything they could digest. Also, caveman lived to be about 30 and none of them ran a cycle of 531.
My wife’s a vegetarian so no chance of that around here. I also have to admit I like carbs and couldn’t give them up. I do moderate them more now more compared to when I was younger, and don’t have junk carbs. Fruit, honey, rice, and Ezekiel are pretty much staples for me, though.
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I’d argue that they’d prefer the pepperoni pizza because it has more calories
The costco I got to sells raw honeycomb from Savanah Bee Company. It’s very good
I’ll look for that. I do buy honey from Costco, but haven’t tried that. I have 4 different types of honey at right now: 1) Manuka, 2) the hard, solid type, 3) Costco honey, and 4) some I just bought at my local farmer’s market.
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It’s very good paired w/ hard cheese
Have you tried mixing honey w/ cocoa powder? It’s amazing, and not too bad nutritionally either w/ the antioxidants/flavonols in the cocoa
how do you eat this? on it’s own?
Nope. But have with cinnamon. Probably cocoa and cinnamon would be amazing.
I have been known to eat a spoonful or two on its own. I use it regularly in the following ways:
- On Ezekiel toast with almond butter.
- Mixed with fruit on my protein pancakes.
- Mixed with peanut butter in a small cup for dessert.
- In my tea.
I’m open to other ideas, as well.
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It’s very rich and velvety. I use a 2:1 cocoa to honey ratio
I should try this!
I bought a small cup just to mix things in!
I’ve now gone so long without them that they’re alien to me. I just finished reading Justin Harris’ “Comprehensive Performance Nutrition” 1 and 2, and he makes an excellent argument for carb cycling and I was all gung ho until I realized that I don’t seem to miss out on anything with a limited carb diet…so why would I eat them? Haha.
That said, it’s GIRL SCOUT COOKIE season ya’ll. Allow me to share the most anabolic of them all.
There is no room for debate on this, unless you like being on the side of wrong. And if you even TRY to lead with “thin mint” you know you f**ked up. No one is gonna get jacked on a food with “thin” in the name: jeez!
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You had me at peanut butter
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Game recognizes game. I keep waiting for my peanut butter based lifestyle to get me fat like I hear from all the warnings but so far it just continues to prove to be anabolic as hell. Bill West was right.
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I’ve got a recipe for peanut butter fudge somewhere that’s basically only two entire jars of PB. I need to find that again
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Crunchy pb sandwiched between dark chocolate squares is where it is at.
My pb (pun intended) when I last did a severe cut, was three jars of pb in one sitting. What makes it all the more impressive (worrying) is that I only had two jars in the cupboard at the time; I had to go out to buy the third. Mid-way through the last one, I could have quit, but I pushed through and got the W.
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Winners never quit and quitters never win: that’s what my dad taught me. Also explains his 4 pack a day habit when I was growing up…
When I was in college, there were often times when the only edible thing at the dinning hall was peanut butter. I was shameless in my procuring of ALL of the peanut butter available. I’d take bowls designated for ice cream/cereal and just load it up. Between that and unlimited milk, I had it good.
PB on toast paired with a home brewed coffee stout. The most anabolic. Not natty.
What I’m hearing is my nut allergy is a verifiable handicap that allows me to photoshop this competition.
Unrelated: can someone teach me how to photoshop?
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But peanuts are legumes!
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Touché. I misspoke. They all seem to wreck me though
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