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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Saying you get lean by “simply not eating much” is a little unfair.
If being lean (subjective term, I know) was that easy there would be a lot more lean guys walking around everywhere.
It is not that easy for most people.[/quote]

Gotta agree. If being lean was that easy there wouldn’t be so many threads on every forum about how to get lean. And I would see a lot more lean ppl in the gym[/quote]

You see lean people all of the time outside of the gym…they just aren’t muscular…which is the point.

No one has to set foot in a gym to be really lean and small.[/quote]

I don’t see lean people all the time anywhere
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yeah any ‘lean’ person I’ve ever met (I mean impressively lean, not just not fat), even if they didn’t lift, played a good amount of sports or cardio.
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The ones I mentioned are very active, they just don’t lift weights in a gym…which was the point.

Yes, it IS easier to be small and lean than to be very very muscular.

If you don’t even have to lift to be really lean or make sure meals are eaten on time, how they can be on the same level of effort?[/quote]

I don’t personally feel like not having to lift makes something inherently easier. I find lifting much ‘easier’ then playing basketball for 5+ hours a day like I use too.

I feel that getting lean isn’t stupid hard, but maintaining it is. And I feel gaining muscle is pretty difficult, but once gaining it easy to kind of maintain. Something I feel but can’t prove I suppose, but in my mind makes both equally as difficult in different ways.

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Skinny =/= Lean[/quote]

Yes

And X awesome of you to derail your own thread well done[/quote]

Interesting.

[quote]Waittz wrote:

Most really big guys are really big inspite of what they do, not because of it, [/quote]

This statement was flat out wrong so people commented.

No derail here at all.

Also, no one said that skinny = lean.

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Important to remember that ‘lean’ does not mean looking like a contest ready bodybuilder.

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[quote]JBL5 wrote:
Important to remember that ‘lean’ does not mean looking like a contest ready bodybuilder. [/quote]

Exactly.

For instance, I must have seen 20 dudes walking around last weekend in this kind of shape. It was hot as hell outside. Most clearly didn’t lift weights but were in great shape and lean.

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The type of shit I sere in my old neighborhood.

Even when I was a kid everyone was big on doing push ups and sit ups and playing ball. This guy is even more extreme, but yeah, you see this alot in that neighborhood.

I am sure many would label these guys “thugs” since they are walking around with no shirts on…but that’s another thread.

Tons of sit ups and push ups and cardio leads to really really lean without being in a gym all day or watching all food eaten.

Genetics rules all.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
The type of shit I sere in my old neighborhood.

Genetics rules all.[/quote]

I have plenty of friends who look like this. Never touched weights in their life, hardly eat any food but just spent most of their youth playing soccer.
Being active, young and eating very little makes for a lean body.

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Black people also look bigger/stronger/leaner because dark skin shows off the lines much much more than pale skin does. I think people gloss over that when they discuss the sociopoliticalsexualracial differences in jackedness.

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[quote]JBL5 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
The type of shit I sere in my old neighborhood.

Genetics rules all.[/quote]

I have plenty of friends who look like this. Never touched weights in their life, hardly eat any food but just spent most of their youth playing soccer.
Being active, young and eating very little makes for a lean body.

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I have said this before only to have people follow me for months making jokes.

Maybe this is just how Houston is, but I swear most of the guys I know here are more built from NOTHING than what I see on some of the newbs here.

If you spend all day in the sun playing ball and then doing push ups at night, you tend to look pretty lean unless your genetics suck.

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[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Black people also look bigger/stronger/leaner because dark skin shows off the lines much much more than pale skin does. I think people gloss over that when they discuss the sociopoliticalsexualracial differences in jackedness.[/quote]

All of my friends I referred to happen to be white. Doesn’t change the fact they are stupidly lean without even lifting.

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[quote]JBL5 wrote:

All of my friends I referred to happen to be white. Doesn’t change the fact they are stupidly lean without even lifting.[/quote]

One of my friends I used to train with who posts on this site sometimes has genetics like this.

He isn’t watching what he eats all day. He eats more crap than I do.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]JBL5 wrote:

All of my friends I referred to happen to be white. Doesn’t change the fact they are stupidly lean without even lifting.[/quote]

One of my friends I used to train with who posts on this site sometimes has genetics like this.

He isn’t watching what he eats all day. He eats more crap than I do.[/quote]

Good friend of mine has abdominal vascularity, a full 6pack and veins popping out of his arms. His diet consists of Chik-fil-A, weed and sweet tea. He occasionally plays bsketball and never lifts weights.
Its just not that unusual…

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[quote]JBL5 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]JBL5 wrote:

All of my friends I referred to happen to be white. Doesn’t change the fact they are stupidly lean without even lifting.[/quote]

One of my friends I used to train with who posts on this site sometimes has genetics like this.

He isn’t watching what he eats all day. He eats more crap than I do.[/quote]

Good friend of mine has abdominal vascularity, a full 6pack and veins popping out of his arms. His diet consists of Chik-fil-A, weed and sweet tea. He occasionally plays bsketball and never lifts weights.
Its just not that unusual…[/quote]

Yeah, the “weed, Gatorade, playing ball and not eating all day with giant meal at night” seems to be creating some pretty decent development.

Go figure.

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Playing lots of basketball and doing tons of push-ups & sit ups =/= simply not eating very much

You mean to tell me you can get lean by doing lots of cardiovascular activity and explosive movements like sprinting/jumping along with working out your upper body?

No way.
Get out of town.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Playing lots of basketball and doing tons of push-ups & sit ups =/= simply not eating very much

You mean to tell me you can get lean by doing lots of cardiovascular activity and explosive movements like sprinting/jumping along with working out your upper body?

No way.
Get out of town.[/quote]

Dude no stop antagonizing it

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Playing lots of basketball and doing tons of push-ups & sit ups =/= simply not eating very much

You mean to tell me you can get lean by doing lots of cardiovascular activity and explosive movements like sprinting/jumping along with working out your upper body?

No way.
Get out of town.[/quote]

Dude no stop antagonizing it[/quote]

I think the point to take from this is that there are plenty of folks who are very lean without even trying to be, but how many people do you see who are huge and muscular despite never having that in mind as a goal?

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One pick posted was of Nate Robinson, who is around 5’8" and 180-190 lean. He played college football and basketball, and is notoriously a meat head. He definitely lifts regularly.

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[quote]JBL5 wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Playing lots of basketball and doing tons of push-ups & sit ups =/= simply not eating very much

You mean to tell me you can get lean by doing lots of cardiovascular activity and explosive movements like sprinting/jumping along with working out your upper body?

No way.
Get out of town.[/quote]

Dude no stop antagonizing it[/quote]

I think the point to take from this is that there are plenty of folks who are very lean without even trying to be, but how many people do you see who are huge and muscular despite never having that in mind as a goal?[/quote]
So you think these lean muscular guys play tons of basketball and do tons of push-ups and sit ups so they can be chubby?
LOL @ “without even trying too”

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]JBL5 wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Playing lots of basketball and doing tons of push-ups & sit ups =/= simply not eating very much

You mean to tell me you can get lean by doing lots of cardiovascular activity and explosive movements like sprinting/jumping along with working out your upper body?

No way.
Get out of town.[/quote]

Dude no stop antagonizing it[/quote]

I think the point to take from this is that there are plenty of folks who are very lean without even trying to be, but how many people do you see who are huge and muscular despite never having that in mind as a goal?[/quote]
So you think these lean muscular guys play tons of basketball and do tons of push-ups and sit ups so they can be chubby?
LOL @ “without even trying too”
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I never mentioned anyone that does tons of push ups/sit ups. You will notice I referred to a specific friend who does absolutely nothing in an effort to be lean (he has told me this) and a group of friends who have never lifted weights and do not care about what they eat, yet are very lean simply because of being active and not eating all that much. Granted, my friends are not a representation of the entire population.

I find it odd you would argue this point. At my high school tons of people were lean, and hardly anyone lifted weights/cared about diet. A lot of young people that are reasonably active don’t have to do much to be lean, apart from eat whatever mom puts on the dinner table. So yes, I think this does constitute “without even trying”.

Does it bother you that many folks who literally don’t know a thing about diet/lifting are perhaps leaner than you?

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[quote]JBL5 wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]JBL5 wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Playing lots of basketball and doing tons of push-ups & sit ups =/= simply not eating very much

You mean to tell me you can get lean by doing lots of cardiovascular activity and explosive movements like sprinting/jumping along with working out your upper body?

No way.
Get out of town.[/quote]

Dude no stop antagonizing it[/quote]

I think the point to take from this is that there are plenty of folks who are very lean without even trying to be, but how many people do you see who are huge and muscular despite never having that in mind as a goal?[/quote]
So you think these lean muscular guys play tons of basketball and do tons of push-ups and sit ups so they can be chubby?
LOL @ “without even trying too”
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I never mentioned anyone that does tons of push ups/sit ups. You will notice I referred to a specific friend who does absolutely nothing in an effort to be lean (he has told me this) and a group of friends who have never lifted weights and do not care about what they eat, yet are very lean simply because of being active and not eating all that much. Granted, my friends are not a representation of the entire population.

I find it odd you would argue this point. At my high school tons of people were lean, and hardly anyone lifted weights/cared about diet. A lot of young people that are reasonably active don’t have to do much to be lean, apart from eat whatever mom puts on the dinner table. So yes, I think this does constitute “without even trying”.

Does it bother you that many folks who literally don’t know a thing about diet/lifting are perhaps leaner than you?
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Nope because I was one of those kids in Hs and also had plenty of Frieda’s like you speak of. But training for sports does not equal not doing anything to be lean. Now if these people sat on their ass all day everyday and did no sport training/playing and remained lean sure. Also lean IMO means there is a decent amount of muscle and don’t look dyel And no people are not gonna be lean and have muscle without trying in some way shape or form.

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Fuck I can’t believe I came back into this discussion. This is retarded