[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]JBL5 wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]JBL5 wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Playing lots of basketball and doing tons of push-ups & sit ups =/= simply not eating very much
You mean to tell me you can get lean by doing lots of cardiovascular activity and explosive movements like sprinting/jumping along with working out your upper body?
No way.
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Dude no stop antagonizing it[/quote]
I think the point to take from this is that there are plenty of folks who are very lean without even trying to be, but how many people do you see who are huge and muscular despite never having that in mind as a goal?[/quote]
So you think these lean muscular guys play tons of basketball and do tons of push-ups and sit ups so they can be chubby?
LOL @ “without even trying too”
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I never mentioned anyone that does tons of push ups/sit ups. You will notice I referred to a specific friend who does absolutely nothing in an effort to be lean (he has told me this) and a group of friends who have never lifted weights and do not care about what they eat, yet are very lean simply because of being active and not eating all that much. Granted, my friends are not a representation of the entire population.
I find it odd you would argue this point. At my high school tons of people were lean, and hardly anyone lifted weights/cared about diet. A lot of young people that are reasonably active don’t have to do much to be lean, apart from eat whatever mom puts on the dinner table. So yes, I think this does constitute “without even trying”.
Does it bother you that many folks who literally don’t know a thing about diet/lifting are perhaps leaner than you?
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Nope because I was one of those kids in Hs and also had plenty of Frieda’s like you speak of. But training for sports does not equal not doing anything to be lean. Now if these people sat on their ass all day everyday and did no sport training/playing and remained lean sure. Also lean IMO means there is a decent amount of muscle. And no people are not gonna be lean and have muscle without trying in some way shape or form.[/quote]
Google tells me lean can be defined as ‘having no superfluous fat’, not quite sure what muscle has to do with it. Pretty sure you are just altering the definition of the term to suit your argument.
What we are talking about is a concerted effort to achieve a goal. You cannot deny that many people are lean (low bodyfat levels) without working specifically to achieve this. I don’t know of many teenagers who play soccer or basketball because they are trying to get lean, they simply play because it is fun. For your argument to hold up, its as if you expect normal, functioning, healthy adult males to sit down all day and avoid any physical activity.
