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[quote]JLone wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
Not sure how it got started that im a vegan. True, I rarely if ever eat meat, but i eat alot of eggs, protein shakes of course. pasta. and on occasion, i will have a hamburger. I’m just not a huge fan of killing other beings for food. I realize people have been doing it for years.

What i have the biggest problem with is sport hunting. Like some actor going to africa and killing elephants and lions, just for the hell of it. that angers me to no end. If i killed that persons family, im sure he would be pissed. But its ok to kill an animal. that animal doesn’t have a family?[/quote]
As an avid hunter and person who worked my way through college at a meat rendering plant I can tell you without a doubt that meat is the tastiest thing on earth and killing it your self is satisfying on a level the scares some people.

As for sport hunting, I realize on the surface that it sounds cruel but it brings a lot of money to certain regains of Africa and by making the elephant valuable (ie. $10,000) to the government the government protects them. In some countries the only reason the government doesn’t let farmers mow down herds of water buffalo with machine guns is because rich gits from other countries will pay handsomely to have the honor of shooting just one.

In summation: hunters conserve wildlife.[/quote]

Also very good points.

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[quote]JLone wrote:

In summation: hunters conserve wildlife.[/quote]

Thats not what CNN or Peta say you liar.

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What Derek said. My whole family hunts and we eat just about everything. I love having a freezer full of venison, plus it ends up being a fraction of the cost of beef even after you factor in the tags, ammo, gas, butcher etc.

I can understand about the big game trophy hunting though. Most of the time there’s no sport involved, you pay a shitload of money and some sketchy Africans put you within rifle range of a “wild” animal. I am generally against guys who use a bunch of feeders and salt licks and crap like that too.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ 460 if you spent time ranching you would not be remorseful,

Domesticated cattle are the dumbest animals on the planet, their animal instincts have pretty much been breed out of existence. Except for the breeding bulls.

Also most of my family have hunted our whole lives, we do NOT sport hunt. We eat about the whole fucking deer or pig.

But to each their own. [/quote]

I know my Avatar might be a bit blurry…but my HUB is open do I look like I wouldn’t fuck a cow up?

.[/quote]

Lol

we have to live and to me I would rather we give respect to our food. Not sport hunting, but actually one shot one kill and eat all the meat. Grass fed free ranch cattle that have a “normal” existence until they are killed for there meat humanely.

My parents have a hundred acre ranch and raise beef masters cattle. So we actually practice what I am preaching.

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I agree. But I no longer try to reason it out. We can’t all be hunters we can’t all be Tradesman. We all have to eat. And that is a whole lot of mouths.

But before I point a finger and someone and tell them something is “BAD” I BETTER check my house first or be ready to be called on my own BS. You can’t have it both ways.

If you eat eggs unless you have your own chickens and letting them sleep to Biggie smalls every night and rubbing the eggs out of them and giving them a kiss before you take it you can’t really say how that bird was treated that gave that egg up.

So either stop eating it or STFU on it.

Oh and I had a 5 eggs this morning.

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[quote]roguevampire wrote:
People for awhile now, have been wanting me to post a recent pic. "just post a pic, holding a TNation note. then you shut everyone up, I was told.

I post a pic, and people continue to insult me. Saying I’m fatter or I get comments by people saying “god your fat.” First, they say my arms are fatter in the 2nd pic. Really? take a good look at the 1st pic, you can’t even see my arms. I have never stopped lifting, i take the same supplements, I’m a good deal stronger now. Got news for ya, My arms are no fatter now, than the first pic. You can’t even see my arms in the 1st pic.

People seem to be oblivious to the fact that the lighting and body position is totally different. 2nd pic is right up close. 1st pic, is much futher away. so the lighting is going to be different. People just say, “oh, your fatter now” that is such total bullshit. How are you so sure i’m fatter in the 2nd pic, when you can’t even see that much in the 1st pic. anyway, I’m real tired of all this bullshit, you can be the most ripped person alive, but if your in the dark or theres terrible lighting, you don’t think that will effect how you look? sometimes, people are really slow.[/quote]

get a grip. if you’re serious, shed your denial. you’re in your 40’s, you have a daughter, and you’re overweight. shed the weight and get healthy. being “hyooge” and your ego should take a back seat to your health and longevity at this point. you’d look MUCH better at 230 than you do now.

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Gotta love Four60!

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ 460 if you spent time ranching you would not be remorseful,

Domesticated cattle are the dumbest animals on the planet, their animal instincts have pretty much been breed out of existence. Except for the breeding bulls.

Also most of my family have hunted our whole lives, we do NOT sport hunt. We eat about the whole fucking deer or pig.

But to each their own. [/quote]

I know my Avatar might be a bit blurry…but my HUB is open do I look like I wouldn’t fuck a cow up?

.[/quote]

Lol

we have to live and to me I would rather we give respect to our food. Not sport hunting, but actually one shot one kill and eat all the meat. Grass fed free ranch cattle that have a “normal” existence until they are killed for there meat humanely.

My parents have a hundred acre ranch and raise beef masters cattle. So we actually practice what I am preaching.

[/quote]

I agree. But I no longer try to reason it out. We can’t all be hunters we can’t all be Tradesman. We all have to eat. And that is a whole lot of mouths.

But before I point a finger and someone and tell them something is “BAD” I BETTER check my house first or be ready to be called on my own BS. You can’t have it both ways.

If you eat eggs unless you have your own chickens and letting them sleep to Biggie smalls every night and rubbing the eggs out of them and giving them a kiss before you take it you can’t really say how that bird was treated that gave that egg up.

So either stop eating it or STFU on it.

Oh and I had a 5 eggs this morning.[/quote]

Agreed. I love chickens, we had a bunch when I was growing up, fresh eggs are awesome.

Someday I will have my own ranch again. That is for retirement. Like Pushes place without the Canadian border.

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[quote]overstand wrote:
What Derek said. My whole family hunts and we eat just about everything. I love having a freezer full of venison, plus it ends up being a fraction of the cost of beef even after you factor in the tags, ammo, gas, butcher etc.

I can understand about the big game trophy hunting though. Most of the time there’s no sport involved, you pay a shitload of money and some sketchy Africans put you within rifle range of a “wild” animal. I am generally against guys who use a bunch of feeders and salt licks and crap like that too. [/quote]

The second part is fair…but in many countries (including Kenya, Uganda and Namibia according to the Wildlife Conservation Society) hunting companies are heavily taxed and the revenue helps keep the local economies going.

Quite a bit of the hunting tag revenue is used to maintain the national parks and animal populations.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ 460 if you spent time ranching you would not be remorseful,

Domesticated cattle are the dumbest animals on the planet, their animal instincts have pretty much been breed out of existence. Except for the breeding bulls.

Also most of my family have hunted our whole lives, we do NOT sport hunt. We eat about the whole fucking deer or pig.

But to each their own. [/quote]

I know my Avatar might be a bit blurry…but my HUB is open do I look like I wouldn’t fuck a cow up?

.[/quote]

Lol

we have to live and to me I would rather we give respect to our food. Not sport hunting, but actually one shot one kill and eat all the meat. Grass fed free ranch cattle that have a “normal” existence until they are killed for there meat humanely.

My parents have a hundred acre ranch and raise beef masters cattle. So we actually practice what I am preaching.

[/quote]

I agree with you, somewhat, lol. It has always bothered me, since i was a kid. I could never go to a zoo or circus or anything where i felt animals were being treated unfairly. Circus’ are notorious for treating especially elephants very cruel.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]JLone wrote:
In summation: hunters conserve wildlife.[/quote]
Thats not what CNN or Peta say you liar.[/quote]
I am pretty sure your joking but I will expand on the subject because I am adamant about it.

Hunters in the US (National Forestry Department withstanding) contribute more each year then any other group in the world to the conservation on wildlife habitat. Groups like Ducks Unlimited, Pheasants Forever, Quail Forever, etc. donate money just to see habitat preserved. Not to mention that each year hunters buy a license, habitat stamps, water fowl tags, fur bearers license, or big game tags all of which goes to create jobs for wildlife/hunting enforcement agencies as well as habitat.

People who bitch about hunters don’t understand simple economics. If hunters want to spend money and time to have a hobby involving a particular animal, the government has an incentive to protect that animal. That incentive gives that animal a higher value which leads to habitat conservation. Look at the price of a first season elk/bear hunt.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ 460 if you spent time ranching you would not be remorseful,

Domesticated cattle are the dumbest animals on the planet, their animal instincts have pretty much been breed out of existence. Except for the breeding bulls.

Also most of my family have hunted our whole lives, we do NOT sport hunt. We eat about the whole fucking deer or pig.

But to each their own. [/quote]

I know my Avatar might be a bit blurry…but my HUB is open do I look like I wouldn’t fuck a cow up?

.[/quote]

Lol

we have to live and to me I would rather we give respect to our food. Not sport hunting, but actually one shot one kill and eat all the meat. Grass fed free ranch cattle that have a “normal” existence until they are killed for there meat humanely.

My parents have a hundred acre ranch and raise beef masters cattle. So we actually practice what I am preaching.

[/quote]

If you eat eggs unless you have your own chickens and letting them sleep to Biggie smalls every night and rubbing the eggs out of them and giving them a kiss before you take it you can’t really say how that bird was treated that gave that egg up.

[/quote]

BIGGIE!!

/that shit cracked me up

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Gotta love Four60![/quote]

HAHA, ahhh. not many would agree with that. hahaha

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:
What Derek said. My whole family hunts and we eat just about everything. I love having a freezer full of venison, plus it ends up being a fraction of the cost of beef even after you factor in the tags, ammo, gas, butcher etc.

I can understand about the big game trophy hunting though. Most of the time there’s no sport involved, you pay a shitload of money and some sketchy Africans put you within rifle range of a “wild” animal. I am generally against guys who use a bunch of feeders and salt licks and crap like that too. [/quote]

The second part is fair…but in many countries (including Kenya, Uganda and Namibia according to the Wildlife Conservation Society) hunting companies are heavily taxed and the revenue helps keep the local economies going.

Quite a bit of the hunting tag revenue is used to maintain the national parks and animal populations.[/quote]

Have to ask Ink but do they not also donate the meat to local villages to eat? I really doubt they leave the carcass out for the buzzards and feral dogs.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ 460 if you spent time ranching you would not be remorseful,

Domesticated cattle are the dumbest animals on the planet, their animal instincts have pretty much been breed out of existence. Except for the breeding bulls.

Also most of my family have hunted our whole lives, we do NOT sport hunt. We eat about the whole fucking deer or pig.

But to each their own. [/quote]

I know my Avatar might be a bit blurry…but my HUB is open do I look like I wouldn’t fuck a cow up?

.[/quote]

Lol

we have to live and to me I would rather we give respect to our food. Not sport hunting, but actually one shot one kill and eat all the meat. Grass fed free ranch cattle that have a “normal” existence until they are killed for there meat humanely.

My parents have a hundred acre ranch and raise beef masters cattle. So we actually practice what I am preaching.

[/quote]

I agree. But I no longer try to reason it out. We can’t all be hunters we can’t all be Tradesman. We all have to eat. And that is a whole lot of mouths.

But before I point a finger and someone and tell them something is “BAD” I BETTER check my house first or be ready to be called on my own BS. You can’t have it both ways.

If you eat eggs unless you have your own chickens and letting them sleep to Biggie smalls every night and rubbing the eggs out of them and giving them a kiss before you take it you can’t really say how that bird was treated that gave that egg up.

So either stop eating it or STFU on it.

Oh and I had a 5 eggs this morning.[/quote]

Agreed. I love chickens, we had a bunch when I was growing up, fresh eggs are awesome.

Someday I will have my own ranch again. That is for retirement. Like Pushes place without the Canadian border. [/quote]

My dream also…well maybe with more guns
:wink:

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[quote]JLone wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]JLone wrote:
In summation: hunters conserve wildlife.[/quote]
Thats not what CNN or Peta say you liar.[/quote]
I am pretty sure your joking but I will expand on the subject because I am adamant about it.

Hunters in the US (National Forestry Department withstanding) contribute more each year then any other group in the world to the conservation on wildlife habitat. Groups like Ducks Unlimited, Pheasants Forever, Quail Forever, etc. donate money just to see habitat preserved. Not to mention that each year hunters buy a license, habitat stamps, water fowl tags, fur bearers license, or big game tags all of which goes to create jobs for wildlife/hunting enforcement agencies as well as habitat.

People who bitch about hunters don’t understand simple economics. If hunters want to spend money and time to have a hobby involving a particular animal, the government has an incentive to protect that animal. That incentive gives that animal a higher value which leads to habitat conservation. Look at the price of a first season elk/bear hunt. [/quote]

Yes you do not know me that well on here but I am a big smart ass.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
People for awhile now, have been wanting me to post a recent pic. "just post a pic, holding a TNation note. then you shut everyone up, I was told.

I post a pic, and people continue to insult me. Saying I’m fatter or I get comments by people saying “god your fat.” First, they say my arms are fatter in the 2nd pic. Really? take a good look at the 1st pic, you can’t even see my arms. I have never stopped lifting, i take the same supplements, I’m a good deal stronger now. Got news for ya, My arms are no fatter now, than the first pic. You can’t even see my arms in the 1st pic.

People seem to be oblivious to the fact that the lighting and body position is totally different. 2nd pic is right up close. 1st pic, is much futher away. so the lighting is going to be different. People just say, “oh, your fatter now” that is such total bullshit. How are you so sure i’m fatter in the 2nd pic, when you can’t even see that much in the 1st pic. anyway, I’m real tired of all this bullshit, you can be the most ripped person alive, but if your in the dark or theres terrible lighting, you don’t think that will effect how you look? sometimes, people are really slow.[/quote]

get a grip. if you’re serious, shed your denial. you’re in your 40’s, you have a daughter, and you’re overweight. shed the weight and get healthy. being “hyooge” and your ego should take a back seat to your health and longevity at this point. you’d look MUCH better at 230 than you do now. [/quote]

You make good points. but the age is off. at least 10 years.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ 460 if you spent time ranching you would not be remorseful,

Domesticated cattle are the dumbest animals on the planet, their animal instincts have pretty much been breed out of existence. Except for the breeding bulls.

Also most of my family have hunted our whole lives, we do NOT sport hunt. We eat about the whole fucking deer or pig.

But to each their own. [/quote]

I know my Avatar might be a bit blurry…but my HUB is open do I look like I wouldn’t fuck a cow up?

.[/quote]

Lol

we have to live and to me I would rather we give respect to our food. Not sport hunting, but actually one shot one kill and eat all the meat. Grass fed free ranch cattle that have a “normal” existence until they are killed for there meat humanely.

My parents have a hundred acre ranch and raise beef masters cattle. So we actually practice what I am preaching.

[/quote]

I agree. But I no longer try to reason it out. We can’t all be hunters we can’t all be Tradesman. We all have to eat. And that is a whole lot of mouths.

But before I point a finger and someone and tell them something is “BAD” I BETTER check my house first or be ready to be called on my own BS. You can’t have it both ways.

If you eat eggs unless you have your own chickens and letting them sleep to Biggie smalls every night and rubbing the eggs out of them and giving them a kiss before you take it you can’t really say how that bird was treated that gave that egg up.

So either stop eating it or STFU on it.

Oh and I had a 5 eggs this morning.[/quote]

Agreed. I love chickens, we had a bunch when I was growing up, fresh eggs are awesome.

Someday I will have my own ranch again. That is for retirement. Like Pushes place without the Canadian border. [/quote]

My dream also…well maybe with more guns
;)[/quote]

Oh man its Texas, we have a few gun safes with thousands of rounds.

End of the world scenarios I am high tailing it to the Ranch.

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I grew up fishing and hunting and eating ALL of the meat that a particular animal provided and I never had a problem with it BUT “sport” hunting just does not cut it man…their is no “sport” in lining up an animal in the crosshair’s and pulling a trigger. Now, if you want to go all caveman with a knife and spear I probably would not object if the fatass hunter could actually chase down its dinner…

On a side note, FOX news question of the day was: If you had to kill for your daily meat (beef,pork,chicken,fish) could you? 67% of foxnews listeners could NOT ! How ironic is that !
Let someone else do their dirty work for them…mmm ?

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[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
On a side note, FOX news question of the day was: If you had to kill for your daily meat (beef,pork,chicken,fish) could you? 67% of foxnews listeners could NOT ! How ironic is that !
Let someone else do their dirty work for them…mmm ?[/quote]
Why are you watching Fox News?

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[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
I grew up fishing and hunting and eating ALL of the meat that a particular animal provided and I never had a problem with it BUT “sport” hunting just does not cut it man…their is no “sport” in lining up an animal in the crosshair’s and pulling a trigger. Now, if you want to go all caveman with a knife and spear I probably would not object if the fatass hunter could actually chase down its dinner…

On a side note, FOX news question of the day was: If you had to kill for your daily meat (beef,pork,chicken,fish) could you? 67% of foxnews listeners could NOT ! How ironic is that !
Let someone else do their dirty work for them…mmm ?[/quote]

Why are you not posting this in PWI?