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[quote]Hanley wrote:

Say you squat 400lbs without a belt. Then maybe 8-10 weeks later you squat 500 WITH a belt. Does this mean core is gonna get weaker cos your training with a belt?[/quote]

No in that case it wont be weaker. But if you had trained and lifted to do the lift without a belt then of course you would have a stronger core.

Like a bench shirt or breifs. Say I bench 350 raw one week and 450 (just throwing out #'s here) a few weeks later in a DD shirt. No I wont have magically gotten weaker in that time but id be a hell load stronger if I trained to lift that 450 raw. mainly in the bottom end where the shirt gives the most carry over.

My arguement on this is. I could care less if you use gear, belts wraps, a friggin fork lift. I dont choose to at this time thats beyond the point. I feel that by taking the time dedication, will power, etc to build a strong ass base a foundation with No belt, no wraps, no shirts. etc etc. you are going to better set your self up in the long run for performance and health by having the natural strength and supporting musculature the body demands to lift such heavy loads without the aid of gear/euipment.

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[quote]Phill wrote:
Hanley wrote:

Say you squat 400lbs without a belt. Then maybe 8-10 weeks later you squat 500 WITH a belt. Does this mean core is gonna get weaker cos your training with a belt?

No in that case it wont be weaker. But if you had trained and lifted to do the lift without a belt then of course you would have a stronger core.

Like a bench shirt or breifs. Say I bench 350 raw one week and 450 (just throwing out #'s here) a few weeks later in a DD shirt. No I wont have magically gotten weaker in that time but id be a hell load stronger if I trained to lift that 450 raw. mainly in the bottom end where the shirt gives the most carry over.

My arguement on this is. I could care less if you use gear, belts wraps, a friggin fork lift. I dont choose to at this time thats beyond the point. I feel that by taking the time dedication, will power, etc to build a strong ass base a foundation with No belt, no wraps, no shirts. etc etc. you are going to better set your self up in the long run for performance and health by having the natural strength and supporting musculature the body demands to lift such heavy loads without the aid of gear/euipment.

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Ok, lets flip the argument, say you’re starting with a 400lb squat w/out a belt.

8 weeks later you squat 475 WITH a belt.

3 weeks after that you hit 500 STILL WITH a belt.

In the space of 11 weeks you’ve increased your squat by 100lbs, sure you’ve added a belt, but I bet if you were to take that belt off you squat would be up to around 450 maybe (as you did i’m just taking arbitary numbers).

Now after another 10 weeks you migh be squatting 550 in a belt and near 475 without.

If this is the case, over the course of 20 weeks has the belt helped your core to get stronger since you’r enow squatting heavier without a belt??

I’m actually interested as to what people think, to me it seems like the belt helped make your core stronger but I might be missing something!

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It seems hard to argue that squatting with a belt will make your core stronger than if you squatted without a belt. It’s supporting your core, meaning the muscles are not as involved in the movement. On the other hand, your leg/lower back muscles will get more stress, and thus will probably grow more.

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Everytime I have tweaked my lower back deadlifting it has been without a belt.

I have never hurt my lower back with a belt on.

Just don’t wear one on the treadmill.

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[quote]cap’nsalty wrote:
It seems hard to argue that squatting with a belt will make your core stronger than if you squatted without a belt. It’s supporting your core, meaning the muscles are not as involved in the movement. On the other hand, your leg/lower back muscles will get more stress, and thus will probably grow more.[/quote]

Agree I dont see how they could nget as strong with support as without. Yes other areas will get more which can be Good in a case like mine where the core low back etc is the strong suit quad and hip strength is behind, but that came from all the non belted lifting largely.

I wont say the core etc wont get a workout with a belt sure it will just not as much it is supported.