NEED HELP

im 15 yrs old and i have worked out on and off for about a year. i worked out b4 i started wrestling but once wrestling season started i wuz 2 tired to workout. after the wrestling season i started gettin back into weitht lifting and brought my bench up from about 100 to 135. i took amino acids,glutamine,a multivitamin, and CELL MASS (creatine) on and off when i worked out. i didnt work out every single day but now that i decided 2 play football im goin to start working out every day. @ foot ball camp i realized that im goin 2 need 2 bulk up. i weigh about 160 pounds, my bi’s,tri’s,and delts are pretty big but my forearms arent gettin as much gains as the rest of my arm. my first question is what are some good forearm excersises that will make my forearms HUGE and what kind of weight do i need to use on those excersises (light with alot of reps, heavy with less reps)? my second question is: i ran out of creaine and im going to start taking glutamine in the morning,amino acids 5 times a day,glutamine b4 bed,multivitamin in the morning and then i ordered a weight gainer to put the muschle on…i ordered prolab N-large 2…using that weight gainer, will it put on fat or put on serious muscle for my age?

Just remmeber muscle gains come slow.
Eat big. Read Vrooms “are you a Beginner”

[quote]JMac10 wrote:
Just remmeber muscle gains come slow.
Eat big. Read Vrooms “are you a Beginner”[/quote]

Both of you–you’re teenagers.
Eat. Lift. Sleep. Repeat.

Pick up heavy shit. Do it again.

Eat lean beef, chicken, tuna, milk, cottage cheese and nuts. Eat oatmeal–real oatmeal. For cryin out loud stop already with the glutamine and amino acid pills 5 times a day. You don’t need it.

Get some good protein powder and lift the damn weights already.

BTW, I did the same stupid shit when I was 15. This is how I know. I wish there had been someone to tell me to just eat and lift and stop playing around.

But then all we had was Mussle and Fiction. You guys have T-Nation, therefore no good reasons or excuses.

And while you’re at it, go to danjohn.org and read everything there.

6stringsuperman-
(I hope I got your name right)
As a 160 lb’er wanting to play football, I’m concerned that you want to get your forearms huge.

I’m not sure there is any point to that.
Grip strength is important but if you want to be a stronger, better prepared football player and wrestler, huge arms aren’t the main road to success.

Squats and deadlifts - full body strength is what will help you the most.

Get your back and posterior chain strong and you will run faster, hit harder and be a better athlete.

if you put your focus on huge forearms, what will that you for your athletic success?

Start reading Dan John and Chad Waterbury and notice that forearm hugeness is not a focus. but if you learn to structure your workouts by their examples, you will get stronger and more powerful.

Good luck. learn and grow.

6string,

You can save a lot of money on wacky supplements.

As suggested above, what you need is some serious workouts and some good nutrition. If you insist on spending money on supplements, perhaps Surge a good MRP and maybe creatine. I’d say you don’t really need it yet though.

If you aren’t already doing deadlifts and chins, start doing them. As mentioned above the deadlifts will give you a good general strength workout and it will also stress your grip – as it is usually the weak point for most people. Chins will also work your grip and your back.

Do the major compound lifts, do them first in your workout, then follow up with ancillary stuff for weaknesses you feel you need to address. Combine this with plenty of recovery (since you grow outside of the gym, not in it) and good food and you’ll be golden.

Anyway, spend the time to read up on the site, there is a ton of great information on here, that should really help you achieve your goals. Just realize it takes hard work and time, not a magic supplement, and you’ll be a lot happier with the end result.

[quote]vroom wrote:
Just realize it takes hard work and time, not a magic supplement,[/quote]

what?

No magic supplement?
Shit.

I’m gonna have to rethink my whole life now.
Goddammit, vroom…

:wink:

Yup. Supplements are supplements. That means that they are supplemental. Not essential. What is essential is to train smart and hard, eat smart and hard, and recover from previous workouts to avoid overtraining. Oh yea, one more thing- That aminolabtech stuff that is loaded with precursors is crap. If you want to throw money away, throw it my way.

N-Large 2 isnt a bad supplement… I’ve used it to add extra calories in my diet, and its not to expensive.

Spending money on amino acids is a waste, just make sure you have a protien source with each meal (and that your getting about 1g protien per pound of body weight each day)

Deadlift, squat, chins, bench, stiff leg deads, romanian deads, front squats, and heavy rowing are what I would base a football program on.

Like has been mentioned you really need to get a stronger posterior chain.

Once you get some practice with all the different lifts check out west side for skinny bastards its designed specificly for your needs.

what about my forearm question up there. im not getting them big for foorball i just want them bigger because they are smaller than my bis and tri’s and i want my forearms 2 be bigger…i dont want 2 look 2 skinny

Do as directed and your forearms will come along nicely. If you realy want to hammer them try wrist curls, but not at the sacrafice of your ability to grip the bar for deads and other compound pulls. Do the wrist curls last if at all.