[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Nobody is arguing whether that could be attained naturally Meymz said that the physique in the pic doesn’t look natural. , just arguing whether HE attained it naturally. It seems like followers need to be hit with a brick wall before they believe somebody used roids, even if the followers themselves use it. Many pro-athletes who use steriods act like people in jail, they’re all innocent.
I agree with aragon You mean meymz, not aragorn…? , why trust someone who has shown a clear disregard for integrity? Just like A-Rod and Bonds, ONLY used roids the days they failed the test right?
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Yep man it was me. But giving it a better look, and by the arguments given here, this really can be attained natural (I lol’d at the calves part). It may be some cloud in my judgement, 'cause here I see so many lifters smaller than me who are already juicing.
We can’t discredit a natural attainment on that photo by judging his latter actions. However, it is not a fact that he is natural there; if he is (in that pic), congrats to him.
[quote]MEYMZ wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Nobody is arguing whether that could be attained naturally Meymz said that the physique in the pic doesn’t look natural. , just arguing whether HE attained it naturally. It seems like followers need to be hit with a brick wall before they believe somebody used roids, even if the followers themselves use it. Many pro-athletes who use steriods act like people in jail, they’re all innocent.
I agree with aragon You mean meymz, not aragorn…? , why trust someone who has shown a clear disregard for integrity? Just like A-Rod and Bonds, ONLY used roids the days they failed the test right?
Yep man it was me. But giving it a better look, and by the arguments given here, this really can be attained natural (I lol’d at the calves part). It may be some cloud in my judgement, 'cause here I see so many lifters smaller than me who are already juicing. [/quote] Tell me about it. Apparently, everyone now starts using before they even start training seriously. Shit, most of them never start training seriously.
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We can’t discredit a natural attainment on that photo by judging his latter actions. However, it is not a fact that he is natural there; if he is (in that pic), congrats to him.[/quote]
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
MEYMZ wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Nobody is arguing whether that could be attained naturally Meymz said that the physique in the pic doesn’t look natural. , just arguing whether HE attained it naturally. It seems like followers need to be hit with a brick wall before they believe somebody used roids, even if the followers themselves use it. Many pro-athletes who use steriods act like people in jail, they’re all innocent.
I agree with aragon You mean meymz, not aragorn…? , why trust someone who has shown a clear disregard for integrity? Just like A-Rod and Bonds, ONLY used roids the days they failed the test right?
Yep man it was me. But giving it a better look, and by the arguments given here, this really can be attained natural (I lol’d at the calves part). It may be some cloud in my judgement, 'cause here I see so many lifters smaller than me who are already juicing.
Tell me about it. Apparently, everyone now starts using before they even start training seriously. Shit, most of them never start training seriously.
We can’t discredit a natural attainment on that photo by judging his latter actions. However, it is not a fact that he is natural there; if he is (in that pic), congrats to him.
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Yea, and they blame their genes as an excuse, before starting to train, eat, and supplement seriously.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
MEYMZ wrote:
He was aesthetic, but that doesn’t look like a natural physique. He says he’s “natural” there, when it’s evident he uses synthol he says he “abused from steroids”… what will he be using when he admits synthol usage?
What the fuck ever. 1st, you can’t tell that from a picture. 2nd, There are many natural trainees like Skip Lacour who look even leaner and drier than he ever did, at a good size. 3rd, that’s not unattainable for a dedicated natural trainee. He’d been working out his whole damn life. Cut him some slack.[/quote]
Not to start a shit slinging contest, but Lacour was busted for selling steroids awhile ago. Safe to assume he was lying about being natural. Also, Valentino hasn’t exactly been a pillar of truth, so I’d also assume he was juicing at the time of this pic as well.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
MEYMZ wrote:
He was aesthetic, but that doesn’t look like a natural physique. He says he’s “natural” there, when it’s evident he uses synthol he says he “abused from steroids”… what will he be using when he admits synthol usage?
What the fuck ever. 1st, you can’t tell that from a picture. 2nd, There are many natural trainees like Skip Lacour who look even leaner and drier than he ever did, at a good size. 3rd, that’s not unattainable for a dedicated natural trainee. He’d been working out his whole damn life. Cut him some slack.
Not to start a shit slinging contest, but Lacour was busted for selling steroids awhile ago. Safe to assume he was lying about being natural. Also, Valentino hasn’t exactly been a pillar of truth, so I’d also assume he was juicing at the time of this pic as well.[/quote]
I was thinking exactly the same thing today, but I’m not relieving from the false statement I made at the beginning.
To compete in natural contests does not mean that you’re necessarilly natural.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
The Mighty Stu wrote:
I’ve known a lot of folks who use site injections (one even freaked me out as he plunged a needle into his upper pecs -lol), but NONE ever truly got any real degree of added size beyond what looked to me like some inflamation. I will forever consider this man full of BS.
S
Oh well. I can’t bring my self to despise him like so many here do.
Sure he looks like shit now, but what do I care…
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I care because people relate that monstrosity to other big guys who lift weights. Yes, Valentino is lying. If injecting oil alone resulted in HUGE DISTORTED muscles (just his biceps, mind you) based on which muscles were injected, every pro bodybuilder would have an ass bigger than two Jennifer Lopezes fused at the ass crack. There would be no “striated glutes”…just fat 50lbs beach balls hanging off the back of their pelvis.
Whether he used Synthol or any other synthetic oil used for that purpose, that is not normal physiological growth of muscle tissue. Real muscles flex and change shape when contracted. His do not. They remain the same shape.
Things like this cause people unfamiliar to bodybuilding to toss him in with everyone else doing nothing but causing bodybuilding as a whole to be seen as even more a blatant freak show.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
The Mighty Stu wrote:
I’ve known a lot of folks who use site injections (one even freaked me out as he plunged a needle into his upper pecs -lol), but NONE ever truly got any real degree of added size beyond what looked to me like some inflamation. I will forever consider this man full of BS.
S
Oh well. I can’t bring my self to despise him like so many here do.
Sure he looks like shit now, but what do I care…
I care because people relate that monstrosity to other big guys who lift weights. Yes, Valentino is lying. If injecting oil alone resulted in HUGE DISTORTED muscles (just his biceps, mind you) based on which muscles were injected, every pro bodybuilder would have an ass bigger than two Jennifer Lopezes fused at the ass crack. There would be no “striated glutes”…just fat 50lbs beach balls hanging off the back of their pelvis.
Whether he used Synthol or any other synthetic oil used for that purpose, that is not normal physiological growth of muscle tissue. Real muscles flex and change shape when contracted. His do not. They remain the same shape.
Things like this cause people unfamiliar to bodybuilding to toss him in with everyone else doing nothing but causing bodybuilding as a whole to be seen as even more a blatant freak show.
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you lost me at Jlo’s ass…LOL
Yes I too dislike Valentino because he is the poster boy for all that is f*cked with bodybuilding…
I personally believe he had implants in his arms…that synthol alone wouldn’t have even made them like that. WAIT…now save your ‘you can do that?’ speeches…yes PEOPLE do sh*t like that…
as far as site injecting goes, you need a lot of oil to facilitate a larger appearance besides just inflammation alone which can be achieved with even miniscule amounts.
[quote]BrownTrout wrote:
This is another picture of valentino. If I recall correctly he said this picture was post steroid/pre synthol. I wouldn’t screw with him in the bar…[/quote]
being this is Testosterone Nation I’m going to say…YOUR a PUSSY!
Valentino is a little guy…and even if he was 6’5" and 300lbs keep in mind EVERYBODY bleeds…
no need to fear anybody…let alone Valentino in a bar.
DG
sorry- that may have been slightly uncalled for.
I’m not in the best of moods today…some prick cop gave me a ticket for going 43 in a 35 this morning…down a STEEP ass hill… >:I
[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
BrownTrout wrote:
This is another picture of valentino. If I recall correctly he said this picture was post steroid/pre synthol. I wouldn’t screw with him in the bar…
being this is Testosterone nation I’m going to say…YOUR a PUSSY!
Valentino is a little guy…and even if he was 6’5" and 300lbs keep in mind EVERYBODY bleeds…
no need to fear anybody…let alone Valentino in a bar.
DG
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I dunno dude… He’s got subdermal armor implanted it seems… Need to hit the face or throat or you won’t be doing much damage
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Trevor Ross wrote:
He looks good, I wonder if he’s finished his book yet? I hear it’s gonna be interesting.
Oh yeah, it’s probably gonna be filled with lots of real cutting edge info, like his arm-training video that he’s been peddling for years -lol.
S
[/quote]Now, don’t confuse interesting with good here. The book I was referring to is his biography I read a few of his interviews and he seems to be quite the character, that’s all.
