lol @ kai greene 235 and natty
most bb’er were using since their teens so we have no idea how they would look without it
[quote]ronald1919 wrote:
lol @ kai greene 235 and natty
most bb’er were using since their teens so we have no idea how they would look without it[/quote]
exactly… it’s funny/sad that people believe this bs…
but oh well
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]ronald1919 wrote:
lol @ kai greene 235 and natty
most bb’er were using since their teens so we have no idea how they would look without it[/quote]
exactly… it’s funny/sad that people believe this bs…
but oh well[/quote]
Right, but some say, because of his spiritual nature, he’d make a good “ambassador for the sport.”
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
More drugs do NOT always equal more gains. [/quote]
well a number of IFBB pros + logic disagree, but i digress.
[/quote]
?? If they are IFBB pros, then they already have the genetics.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]ronald1919 wrote:
lol @ kai greene 235 and natty
most bb’er were using since their teens so we have no idea how they would look without it[/quote]
exactly… it’s funny/sad that people believe this bs…
but oh well[/quote]
Right, but some say, because of his spiritual nature, he’d make a good “ambassador for the sport.”[/quote]
In my opinion, he just reads Frank Zanes harnessing the mind stuff, takes the less “nutty” ideas (for lack of a better descriptor) and puts a tiny spin on them. I’ve seen nothing in his videos or speeches that I haven’t read in Zanes mind oriented publications.
Are we speaking of IFBB pros of yesteryear who AMAZING genetics and earned their status rightfully so? Or are we speaking of today’s many (NOT ALL) bloated and over drugged crop not gifted with stellar genetics and awarded their pro cards because of sweet heart deals?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
More drugs do NOT always equal more gains. [/quote]
well a number of IFBB pros + logic disagree, but i digress.
[/quote]
?? If they are IFBB pros, then they already have the genetics.
[/quote]
i meant IFBB pros are the ones that are saying more drugs = more gains & side effects…
logic agrees
[quote]BrofessorX wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]ronald1919 wrote:
lol @ kai greene 235 and natty
most bb’er were using since their teens so we have no idea how they would look without it[/quote]
exactly… it’s funny/sad that people believe this bs…
but oh well[/quote]
You guys must not spend much time around big dudes.
I knew guys who were bigger than that and they did was eat Mc Donald’s all day and play basketball.
Maybe you guys just aren’t cut out for this.
[/quote]
Obvi
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
More drugs do NOT always equal more gains. [/quote]
well a number of IFBB pros + logic disagree, but i digress.
[/quote]
?? If they are IFBB pros, then they already have the genetics.
[/quote]
i meant IFBB pros are the ones that are saying more drugs = more gains & side effects…
logic agrees[/quote]
IFBB pros already have the genetics to respond well to steroids. That is the point.
That ain’t working for the guys with weak genetics for responding to drugs or weights. They may see more side effects, but more drugs do NOT automatically mean more gains. You could just see more side effects.
Hmmmm who to listen to? People who use steriods and have actual first hand knowledge/experience or people who don’t use but think they have all the answers Hmmm it’s a tough one.
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]ronald1919 wrote:
lol @ kai greene 235 and natty
most bb’er were using since their teens so we have no idea how they would look without it[/quote]
exactly… it’s funny/sad that people believe this bs…
but oh well[/quote]
AMEN!! That’s the point of this threa! There are kids out there believing the shit this fucker spouts out his mouth. Lie after lie after lie. And they buy the ON supps thinking “hey if I take the same supps as Brock, and I train like Brock, and I eat like Brock” maybe one day I can look like that when the truth is even if those kids took steroids they probably wouldn’t look like that. The dude obviously has great genetics, and I know he’s busted his ass. But I’m sick of him lieing through his teeth… He doesn’t have to admit to it but just don’t discuss it then…
I smell a conspiracy theory. You guys are right, more drugs and stacks equal champions- Just look at Palumbo, more drugs mean better looking bodybuilders right?
[quote]SavagedNatiion wrote:
I smell a conspiracy theory. You guys are right, more drugs and stacks equal champions- Just look at Palumbo, more drugs mean better looking bodybuilders right?
[/quote]
Look at Cutler since he turned pro
Look at Kai since he turned pro
Look at Heath since he turned pro
Look at Jason Huh since he turned pro
Look at Dorian Yates since
Look at …
Do you think these guys progress from their pro debut to now or at the top of their reign is caused by training/diet/genetics… or a change in drug use?
This is what is being said here, not sure why anyone would argue about this
[quote]SavagedNatiion wrote:
I smell a conspiracy theory. You guys are right, more drugs and stacks equal champions- Just look at Palumbo, more drugs mean better looking bodybuilders right?
[/quote]
I don’t think you are understanding what people mean about “more drugs.”
There is obviously a point of diminishing returns with regards to AAS use BUT more/better drugs will equal better progress.
Take a normal guy from the gym and dose him with test alone for 6 weeks and he will make decent progress.
Take the same guy from the gym and dose him intelligently with test/tren/slin/gh (maybe not all at the same time lol) and he will make better progress.
[quote]johnman18 wrote:
A little up date boys… Big Bad Brock wants to fight me now uh oh…What do I do guys??? Do i run and hide from the roid monster? Lmfao yeah right like I’ve ever been afraid to get my ass beat lol.[/quote]
lol what? srs?
Honestly I’m not scared to fight many people.
But I would be a kinda upset. If I were 18 again I would get like 10 of my friends and jump him at the local skate park…because he skates.
But we are adults now and fighting is really silly…especially if you are sponsored by ON.
I still think attaining his proportions naturally is possible, though like Maiden said just not for everyone though.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]SavagedNatiion wrote:
I smell a conspiracy theory. You guys are right, more drugs and stacks equal champions- Just look at Palumbo, more drugs mean better looking bodybuilders right?
[/quote]
I don’t think you are understanding what people mean about “more drugs.”
There is obviously a point of diminishing returns with regards to AAS use BUT more/better drugs will equal better progress.
Take a normal guy from the gym and dose him with test alone for 6 weeks and he will make decent progress.
Take the same guy from the gym and dose him intelligently with test/tren/slin/gh (maybe not all at the same time lol) and he will make better progress.[/quote]
dont bother with savage nation…
[quote]johnman18 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]ronald1919 wrote:
lol @ kai greene 235 and natty
most bb’er were using since their teens so we have no idea how they would look without it[/quote]
exactly… it’s funny/sad that people believe this bs…
but oh well[/quote]
AMEN!! That’s the point of this threa! There are kids out there believing the shit this fucker spouts out his mouth. Lie after lie after lie. And they buy the ON supps thinking “hey if I take the same supps as Brock, and I train like Brock, and I eat like Brock” maybe one day I can look like that when the truth is even if those kids took steroids they probably wouldn’t look like that. The dude obviously has great genetics, and I know he’s busted his ass. But I’m sick of him lieing through his teeth… He doesn’t have to admit to it but just don’t discuss it then…[/quote]
lying through his teeth? it’s called being a good businessman… and not a complete retard wtf?
steroids are illegal, you expect him to ruin his career so he can be broke and homeless?
fucking shit
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]johnman18 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]ronald1919 wrote:
lol @ kai greene 235 and natty
most bb’er were using since their teens so we have no idea how they would look without it[/quote]
exactly… it’s funny/sad that people believe this bs…
but oh well[/quote]
AMEN!! That’s the point of this threa! There are kids out there believing the shit this fucker spouts out his mouth. Lie after lie after lie. And they buy the ON supps thinking “hey if I take the same supps as Brock, and I train like Brock, and I eat like Brock” maybe one day I can look like that when the truth is even if those kids took steroids they probably wouldn’t look like that. The dude obviously has great genetics, and I know he’s busted his ass. But I’m sick of him lieing through his teeth… He doesn’t have to admit to it but just don’t discuss it then…[/quote]
lying through his teeth? it’s called being a good businessman… and not a complete retard wtf?
steroids are illegal, you expect him to ruin his career so he can be broke and homeless?
fucking shit[/quote]
Lol dude its not worth responding to them. It really is crazy how many people dont understand the sheer magnitude of drug use in this sport
What some guys don’t understand are drugs aren’t everything as far as end results go but hey what do I know, not like I have a doctorate.
[quote]SavagedNatiion wrote:
What some guys don’t understand are drugs aren’t everything as far as end results go but hey what do I know, not like I have a doctorate.[/quote]
ok you started with saying that “drugs are the finishing touches”, which was incorrect, now you are saying “drugs aren’t everything in bodybuilding”, which is correct.
seems you are the one learning