It’s not even slang.
I live in Europe and have been to Paris, Rome, Madrid, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Berlin, Budapest. London, brussels and I haven’t been mugged or pickpocketed once, yes there are some high crime areas in all these cities but there all so high crime areas in Rio, New York, Bangkok where there is little to no Gypsy’s. It is not a gypsy thing it is a poor thing. If you can’t go out without worrying about being mugged you need to spend less time arguing on here and more time working out.
I have been to Greece several times and it is indeed a nice place, my point was everyone knows that corruption and cronyism is rife in the Greek political system and that that should make her angry but her anger in my opinion seems to be misdirected.
Hi Nick this is true, when Europeans talk about Gypsy’s they are most commonly referring to people of Romani heritage. Although in the UK they have Irish travellers who have a similar lifestyle and are also referred to as Gypsies.
Yeah, I understand what you say!
of course, you’re most welcome to Greece, you’ll enjoy and learn so many things!
Here in Greece what you describe happens the most in big cities like Athens,or SKG,in smaller cities people tend to ‘‘care’’ for each other, so I like both things, being in Athens and no one giving a damn about what the other do, but then visiting my birth place and everybody is a little closer, whatever suits your mood hahahaha ![]()
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It depends on who it is used to refer to. When Pat used it he was referring to the Roma/romani/rom. Thus, we are talking about an ethnic group and ethnic slurs are racist. You just have to know how the word race has been used as well as the etymology of the word. The ancient Romans wrote of the German race, for example.
In non English speaking nations they don’t use the word “gypsy”.
Calling someone a racist is well… very racist, against racists. I should know some of my best friends are racists:)
It depends on your definition of the verb “to use”.
In Spain they use gitano but it is not necessarily interchangeable with the English word gypsy.
whilst that is true when they talk in their native language and I am happy to be proved wrong, in my experience when you talk to a European in English they will use the word Gypsy.
Don’t you just hate it when you reply then realise it was intended as a joke, it seems that I am now racist against racists who are against racists.
Ha ha, Sorry bud it was a joke.
I was thinking about this. Loppar, try telling a poor person in the US who likely has a two-bedroom apartment with AC, electricity, running water, and a cell phone that they have nothing to complain about because they’d be middle-class in Mexico.
These countries like Greece are understandably concerned about the refugee crisis. They are less able to absorb all of the immigrants, because they’re already in serious financial straits, relative to what they’re accustomed to and the other countries in the EU.
Not talking to you here, but it’s a mistake to assume that all of the nationalist movements across Europe can be summed up as racist and xenophobic. I’m thinking of Brexit, and Germany’s recent close call where Merkel had to agree to some immigration reform in an attempt to keep her party in power.
Not thinking of Greece in particular here, but I think some of this is the idea that any dissent against increasingly leftist policies is seen as unacceptable, and expressing it is likely to have you called a selfish person, or a racist. I see some of this as push back against leftist politics, of the authoritarian kind.
@poisoneve and anyone else. I had an old thread on this topic that might be interesting to you. There’s a great article by J. Haidt.
I put this video up in that thread. Jonathan Haidt is very good at explaining some of this. This is just an 11 minute clip, but the whole lecture is good. @probnit8 you might like this.
@probnit8. As an aside, CROATIA!!! Wow, that was soo exciting. The blonde Croatian player with the ponytail made that header, and then Russia also scored a header, I was DYING. That was so exciting to watch. WHOOT!!!
I am really happy to know that you watch our games too @anon71262119 ![]()
Now, game against England is next.
It would be totally awesome if we won the cup for the first time ever, so we can only hope ![]()
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Or as we used to call him “one of the dumb Slovaks from the village down the road”. He’s alright whe he’s not getting into fistfights at weddings. Or nightclubs.
Are Italian first names a thing over in Croatia?
It depends on historical and geographical factors - whether a specific region was part of Stato da Mar for example.
Mario and Luka (Luca) are pretty common, Mateo (Matteo) somewhat less. More popular names are the ones that transliterate easily.
Ethnic Italians usually keep the italian spelling of their names, but there are exceptions:
This is for @probnit8 - difference in actual crime vs. perception of crime levels. While actual crime data shows that you’re objectively safer than a Norwegian and roughly on par with the average Icelander, your subjective perception of crime is seventy times higher. Speaks volumes about the pessimistic traits of the national character.

Instead of taking your ass deep into crime things and pulling out funny charts from God knows where… why don’t you explain why is our economy shitty?
Why are we poorest country in EU?
Why is our prime minister so incompentent that he just knows to say: “It’s still worse in Africa” when I’m kinda thinking that at least few African countries have better economy than us…
I also don’t get it why you try so hard to prove to people online that Croatia is so nice place to live.
It was 4.5 milions of us here around 10 years ago, now it’s less than 4 (3.7 I think). People are moving out. Half of my friends moved out from this country, and I know more that will… and people like you and ones who you defend are to blame.
Croatia is indeed really nice place - to visit, if you are a tourist. Life here isn’t really a good option.
When talking about tourism - tourists don’t like high crime rates, and our country knows that, so they might be hiding few things…
Now, please stop hijacking this thread because I doubt @poisoneve made this thread to read some crime charts and how perfect Croatian life is - when it basically sucks badly.