[quote]romeothemonk wrote:
[quote]CLINK wrote:
Anyone recall that funny thread a couple of years ago where some fat guy saw Nate’s book in the bargain bin at the mall, but the fat guy was too cheap to buy it? That thread was a shitstorm of laughs![/quote]
I have no idea what you are talking about.[/quote]
Holy shit
Is it true Nate now works for Precision Nutrition?
One of there major selling points is that they advise on small adjustments to diet that “dont take much effort” or “are not extreme”, and I think that is the point he is trying to make about his new lifestyle, that is “effortless and easy”, and that you should give him money so he can show you how do the same.
When in reality, I bet he still lifts 4 times a week, weighs his chicken breasts and counts the yolks that he eats.
Bird. Word.
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[quote]theBird wrote:
Bird. Word.
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Can’t… Resist…
[quote]theBird wrote:
Is it true Nate now works for Precision Nutrition?
One of there major selling points is that they advise on small adjustments to diet that “dont take much effort” or “are not extreme”, and I think that is the point he is trying to make about his new lifestyle, that is “effortless and easy”, and that you should give him money so he can show you how do the same.
When in reality, I bet he still lifts 4 times a week, weighs his chicken breasts and counts the yolks that he eats.
Bird. Word.
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Yes, he is one of the coaches on the Scrawny to Brawny program.
His bigger, smaller, bigger diaries showed he isn’t that anal about what he eats.
[quote]nighthawkz wrote:
[quote]theBird wrote:
Bird. Word.
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Can’t… Resist…
My girlfriend has that song for the ringtone when I call her on the mobile.
True story.
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“To be clear, everything I took was natural and totally safe. And certain supplements definitely helped me improve my performance and gain muscle. But since I worked for T-Nation/Biotest at the time, I had to write the equivalent of a love letter for each supplement I took. It was too much”
My personal highlight and one of the biggest things I dislike about T-Nation
Shall I compare thee to a scoop of Surge!?
Thou art more sweet and more mixable.
Fishy burps do make the caps of Flameout,
And Alpha Male is out of stock.
[quote]romeothemonk wrote:
[quote]CLINK wrote:
Anyone recall that funny thread a couple of years ago where some fat guy saw Nate’s book in the bargain bin at the mall, but the fat guy was too cheap to buy it? That thread was a shitstorm of laughs![/quote]
I have no idea what you are talking about.[/quote]
ahahahahahahhahahahahhahhahahhahahhhaa
[quote]romeothemonk wrote:
[quote]CLINK wrote:
Anyone recall that funny thread a couple of years ago where some fat guy saw Nate’s book in the bargain bin at the mall, but the fat guy was too cheap to buy it? That thread was a shitstorm of laughs![/quote]
I have no idea what you are talking about.[/quote]
OMG, YOU’RE BACK!
Some people thought you had committed suicide after that thread.
You’re a good sport, man! Thanks for the laughs!
[quote]The Ox Man wrote:
“To be clear, everything I took was natural and totally safe. And certain supplements definitely helped me improve my performance and gain muscle. But since I worked for T-Nation/Biotest at the time, I had to write the equivalent of a love letter for each supplement I took. It was too much”
My personal highlight and one of the biggest things I dislike about T-Nation[/quote]
This is what I’d say to Nate in response to that quote:
“Nate, you were paid very well to do a relatively easy job, which was to help edit and write the occasional article, a job which you never really took that seriously or gave much whole-hearted effort. You might have felt compelled to write “love letters for each supplement you took” simply out of guilt for your lackluster effort, or, perhaps more accurately, in an effort to suck up to your bosses, which was something you’ve proven to be very, very skilled at throughout your life and career. Regardless, the truth is that we never put pressure on employees or writers to praise supplements. If they do write good things, they do it on their own accord because they believe it.”
[quote]TC wrote:
[quote]The Ox Man wrote:
“To be clear, everything I took was natural and totally safe. And certain supplements definitely helped me improve my performance and gain muscle. But since I worked for T-Nation/Biotest at the time, I had to write the equivalent of a love letter for each supplement I took. It was too much”
My personal highlight and one of the biggest things I dislike about T-Nation[/quote]
This is what I’d say to Nate in response to that quote:
“Nate, you were paid very well to do a relatively easy job, which was to help edit and write the occasional article, a job which you never really took that seriously or gave much whole-hearted effort. You might have felt compelled to write “love letters for each supplement you took” simply out of guilt for your lackluster effort, or, perhaps more accurately, in an effort to suck up to your bosses, which was something you’ve proven to be very, very skilled at throughout your life and career. Regardless, the truth is that we never put pressure on employees or writers to praise supplements. If they do write good things, they do it on their own accord because they believe it.”[/quote]
And now we get interesting.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]TC wrote:
[quote]The Ox Man wrote:
“To be clear, everything I took was natural and totally safe. And certain supplements definitely helped me improve my performance and gain muscle. But since I worked for T-Nation/Biotest at the time, I had to write the equivalent of a love letter for each supplement I took. It was too much”
My personal highlight and one of the biggest things I dislike about T-Nation[/quote]
This is what I’d say to Nate in response to that quote:
“Nate, you were paid very well to do a relatively easy job, which was to help edit and write the occasional article, a job which you never really took that seriously or gave much whole-hearted effort. You might have felt compelled to write “love letters for each supplement you took” simply out of guilt for your lackluster effort, or, perhaps more accurately, in an effort to suck up to your bosses, which was something you’ve proven to be very, very skilled at throughout your life and career. Regardless, the truth is that we never put pressure on employees or writers to praise supplements. If they do write good things, they do it on their own accord because they believe it.”[/quote]
And now we get interesting. [/quote]
Quite interesting.
[quote]The Ox Man wrote:
“To be clear, everything I took was natural and totally safe. And certain supplements definitely helped me improve my performance and gain muscle. But since I worked for T-Nation/Biotest at the time, I had to write the equivalent of a love letter for each supplement I took. It was too much”
My personal highlight and one of the biggest things I dislike about T-Nation[/quote]
Whereas in reality this should have made you think: “Nate, you’re a f*cking hypocritical douchebag”
Edit: ah, I see that TC responded…
[quote]TC wrote:
[quote]The Ox Man wrote:
“To be clear, everything I took was natural and totally safe. And certain supplements definitely helped me improve my performance and gain muscle. But since I worked for T-Nation/Biotest at the time, I had to write the equivalent of a love letter for each supplement I took. It was too much”
My personal highlight and one of the biggest things I dislike about T-Nation[/quote]
This is what I’d say to Nate in response to that quote:
“Nate, you were paid very well to do a relatively easy job, which was to help edit and write the occasional article, a job which you never really took that seriously or gave much whole-hearted effort. You might have felt compelled to write “love letters for each supplement you took” simply out of guilt for your lackluster effort, or, perhaps more accurately, in an effort to suck up to your bosses, which was something you’ve proven to be very, very skilled at throughout your life and career. Regardless, the truth is that we never put pressure on employees or writers to praise supplements. If they do write good things, they do it on their own accord because they believe it.”[/quote]
I definitely understand that, it seems a bit ridiculous for him to come out with that now.
But on the other hand, for me personally the sales tactics are a bit too hard. I remember the Anaconda protocol when it came out had the slogan “No hype, no exaggeration, just building muscle as fast as humanly possible”. I have no doubt that the T Nation supplements are excellent and help a lot, but some of the initial articles about them have people claiming they made better gains than you would expect from a steroid cycle. Evidently the marketing works very well and most people will disagree with me, but in any situation if I feel like something is being marketed with excessive amounts of hype it makes me immediately back off.
[quote]punnyguy wrote:
Read some of his stuff before, read some of his stuff mentioned in this thread.
Cliff notes: Mr. Green is a young man who obsessively (compulsively??) buys 150% into the philosophies of the companies he works for.
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I’ll be a douche and quote myself from way back in this thread.
To Ox Man: note that TC did not make reference to TNation’s marketing efforts on it’s own behalf, just to Mr. Green’s supposedly feeling compelled to over-hype the products under the Nate Green byline.
Btw, in general I agree with the Ox Man wrt the marketing hype (especially the I, Bodybuilder campaign), although unlike him I actually purchase Biotest products…LOL 
edit to add: to end on a positive note, Amit & Bron Sapir are 'da bomb, and make a great Biotest promotion team!
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
On second thought, fuck him and anybody who uses the term fitness junkie. The human body was built for hard work. My Grandfather sharecropped tobacco, was a blacksmith, and worked 40+ hours a week at the Foundry. And apparently he was so bored he put up a chin-up bar in his yard so he could do chins and skin-the-cat. The man lived to be 94 and grew some awesome tomatoes.[/quote]
The human mind was built to figure out any and all possible ways to avoid physical work while increasing overall productivity.
I was kind of hoping this thread was going to stay with the “my grand dad was awesome” theme. I know both of mine were.
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
On second thought, fuck him and anybody who uses the term fitness junkie. The human body was built for hard work. My Grandfather sharecropped tobacco, was a blacksmith, and worked 40+ hours a week at the Foundry. And apparently he was so bored he put up a chin-up bar in his yard so he could do chins and skin-the-cat. The man lived to be 94 and grew some awesome tomatoes.[/quote]
Good stuff Uncle Gabby, sounds as tough as a coffin nail.
[quote]romeothemonk wrote:
[quote]CLINK wrote:
Anyone recall that funny thread a couple of years ago where some fat guy saw Nate’s book in the bargain bin at the mall, but the fat guy was too cheap to buy it? That thread was a shitstorm of laughs![/quote]
I have no idea what you are talking about.[/quote]
I just clicked on that link and the board was way too hard on you.
I don’t understand why even the usually nice Iron Dwarf made that comment.
Also I don’t see that you looked fat. You have a naturally round face perhaps. So do I.
[quote]TC wrote:
Regardless, the truth is that we never put pressure on employees or writers to praise supplements. If they do write good things, they do it on their own accord because they believe it."[/quote]
Yeah, I don’t believe this at all. Read any article on T-Nation. There will definitely be more than a couple of recommendations for T-Nation products. With convenient links to the Store webpage.
Not that there is anything wrong with this. T-Nation has every right to aggressively market its products. I don’t think there is anything too wrong with TC leaning on the authors to recommend T-Nation products in their articles. After all, free loaders like myself are getting those articles for free. There’s nothing wrong with pushing YOUR products on YOUR articles that you are giving away for FREE.
I just take issue with being less-than-honest about it.