appetite suppresion hugh when i was hitting the d-bol at 50mgs by week four i got sick by looking at food.
Three to four days after i discontinued them i was eating every thing in the house.
I think it was all the heavy androgens in my system.
It should go as i believe the drol to be the culprit soon partner.
i ran eq at only 400mg/week before and never saw a jump in appetite so maybe some people arnt effected by it but i dont know, hopefully its not bunk. fucking assholes
Yeah… what week did you notice any results from the eq - and what results did you get, size? a little strength? what?
I have read that it is a little more anabolic than deca and that it is a little less… well on 3x the dose i use deca at, i should be getting quite the hit from it IMO.
The hunger thing, is individual i have also read… and i am not too bothered by that as it is, but as the part of a larger puzzle it is still an important point i think.
So… 600mg Equipoise… what would one expect and when?
JJ
cant really say cause i was using deca test and dbol at the same time. however i was growing lol
anyone used eq alone?
Hagar has i think… hagar, you there?
Jelly Roll and Lillguy have both used it alone. Both with success, as well.
And the appetite thing hasn’t been consistent, like almost everything else associated with steroids.
I know some guys that really love eq. Im just not one of them. Didnt have any drastic appetite increases and the stregth increase I had while on that cycle could of been eaisly achieved without the eq and was surely nothing out of this world.
A lot of the guys that I konw that like eq say that they dont tend to feel the kick from it till about 7 weeks in.
if thats 12 lbs of pretty decent muscle you re not doing too badly…
12 lbs is good so far.
Here’s an interesting thought: What if your EQ and Test are bunk and your gains are from the winny and drol? You should know soon, I would imagine. Let’s hope you got good gear and the best is just around the corner!
Thanks guys… i’ll keep on keeping on. 
[quote] Brook wrote:
Thanks guys… i’ll keep on keeping on. ;)[/quote]
That’s all you can do JJ
Remember the undeca ester in EQ means its going to potentially take you awhile to see some results. Having said that something should be happening six weeks in on EQ alone. Your test should be in full effect too. Steady as she goes
Ya… its kinda swings and roundabouts for me - some days i feel great and some i think nothing is happening!
Take today for example, i feel full and in good shape - and strong at the gym yesterday too…
ready for my workout today, full of energy - done a full days work and made 2 appointments after too and yet to train… so that is all looking positive.
I am feeling muscular and got a swing in my step! o watch this space… i think i am good though ;D
[quote] Brook wrote:
Take today for example, i feel full and in good shape - and strong at the gym yesterday too…
ready for my workout today, full of energy - done a full days work and made 2 appointments after too and yet to train… so that is all looking positive.
I am feeling muscular and got a swing in my step! o watch this space… i think i am good though ;D[/quote]
Well, get to the gym already, and kick some ass!
Just got back…;p
And i think i am good… i did just 9 sets of chest and 9 sets of delts as i am doing on the extra day of the week, and then posing in the studio as i do after most sessions.
I am definitely improving. My muscles have grown quite substantially actually, it is just because i am sticking around the 86-87kg mark that pisses me off - but i am looking really quite dry for such a (relatively) high bodyfat.(10-11%) - i think that must be the eq…
I think that somehow the inclusion of eq has reduced the bloat from the test - i dunno, like a more quality stack… remembering i am also using proviron and letro - which are MADE for dryness and lean quality… but last time i still ‘felt’ the sloppy gain from the test which is much less apparent this time.
The difference between pre-training and post-training pump is quite phenomenal. I dont like it TOO much as it is a fleeting bonus… not a keeper.
I just gotta make sure i keep the calories high, and bust my arse making the most of the insane pumps and hope to grow.
(my chest had a beautiful pump - i was doing 15 reps with the weight i was using for 8, and i was doing the reps twice as slow too!)
Strength is definitely up, i am picking up the weights i was using for 4-6 reps and banging out 12-15… mm-yea.
My aggression took a rise during the drol cycle. And it has seemingly taken another.
I was noticeable more ‘tetchy’ around others… i dont suffer fools gladly as is well known to those who know me - but i am now on the verge of being unreasonably aggressive… probably past the verge if you ask those who have crossed me - strangers and work colleagues alike. whoops.
I am starting to look into my own psyche and ego to try to knock this behaviour on the head. As much as i am no bully and only ever sticking up for myself or my morals - this culture has no place for such an alpha mentality. And i always sucked at verbal arguments and quick tongued assaults, making it easier to lash out physically - and with the androgens in me it makes my temper harder to control.
But control it i must - this is just another example of why i mustny allow myself to use tren and possibly masteron - this certain side effect is very damaging to me and those around me and is enough to stop my use of these drugs for good - so i must control it or leave them alone.
I think i am now on steroids. i kinda like it.
JJ
well then, thats a relief
Glad you are really starting to feel it! I’m reminded of that video from Spiderman3 that was in another thread (Cortes’). Maybe someone can find it, cuz it sounds like you got that ‘feeling’!
Now its time to do some damage to the Iron. Nuthin but a peanut baby! Light Weight! Yeah!
By the way, there are 2 ladies in my avatar. Too much for me, so I’ll share…LOL
[quote] Brook wrote:
Just got back…;p
And i think i am good… i did just 9 sets of chest and 9 sets of delts as i am doing on the extra day of the week, and then posing in the studio as i do after most sessions.
I am definitely improving. My muscles have grown quite substantially actually, it is just because i am sticking around the 86-87kg mark that pisses me off - but i am looking really quite dry for such a (relatively) high bodyfat.(10-11%) - i think that must be the eq…
I think that somehow the inclusion of eq has reduced the bloat from the test - i dunno, like a more quality stack… remembering i am also using proviron and letro - which are MADE for dryness and lean quality… but last time i still ‘felt’ the sloppy gain from the test which is much less apparent this time.
The difference between pre-training and post-training pump is quite phenomenal. I dont like it TOO much as it is a fleeting bonus… not a keeper.
I just gotta make sure i keep the calories high, and bust my arse making the most of the insane pumps and hope to grow.
(my chest had a beautiful pump - i was doing 15 reps with the weight i was using for 8, and i was doing the reps twice as slow too!)
Strength is definitely up, i am picking up the weights i was using for 4-6 reps and banging out 12-15… mm-yea.
My aggression took a rise during the drol cycle. And it has seemingly taken another.
I was noticeable more ‘tetchy’ around others… i dont suffer fools gladly as is well known to those who know me - but i am now on the verge of being unreasonably aggressive… probably past the verge if you ask those who have crossed me - strangers and work colleagues alike. whoops.
I am starting to look into my own psyche and ego to try to knock this behaviour on the head. As much as i am no bully and only ever sticking up for myself or my morals - this culture has no place for such an alpha mentality. And i always sucked at verbal arguments and quick tongued assaults, making it easier to lash out physically - and with the androgens in me it makes my temper harder to control.
But control it i must - this is just another example of why i mustny allow myself to use tren and possibly masteron - this certain side effect is very damaging to me and those around me and is enough to stop my use of these drugs for good - so i must control it or leave them alone.
I think i am now on steroids. i kinda like it.
JJ[/quote]
Congrats JJ! I envy you to no end, mate. How’s that drol treating you?
lol@dave! heh!
growing - i finished the drol after 3 weeks. I had enough to run 6, but i wanted to stop just to assess the other drugs i am using really… plus the frequency of nosebleeds was increasing and i was aware that it was highly likely a little too much for my BP.
My nose is totally fucked though, so if i pick it it bleeds often - but…
I havent been able to do ab work for over a year… probably nearing 2 actually - due to this damn hernia (abdominal/epigastric)… gotta get it fixed but i am just so worried about dropping tons of muscle…
The thing is, my abs really need it - they are still better than most trainees, and i have some nice obliques/interc in the buildup to the side chest/side tri… but still i need to get them dialled it.
Might start doing some planks and some BW crunches… what do you’ll suggest?
damn i dont do real well with abs unless its weighted crunches with cables or machines. Its the only way mine grow ):
U need to put up some before and after pics
and yes im very glad u think your eq isent bad, did u try freezing it?