JJ…
Are those stretch marks on the bicep/ shoulder? or Vein?
Also I hear you on the no water thing… I like the bloated/swole look! LOL
Glad to see you’re making gains though, hope your strength picks up.
Wow. I faintly remember the pics from the JJ profile. Looking good so far!
i thought you said you were black?
BDE: ya! need to get on the sunbeds eh?? (I think it is the lighting/camera mostly though… but i hear ya)
KVA; Nah, i never seemed to have got stretch marks… so it must be veins - i do have quite a lot in the shoulders when i pull a MM… although whether that strange contortion above can be called a ‘most muscular’ i am not sure…
But yeah - i dunno about this strength thing, my workouts are not good at the moment either, really fucking shit actually. This is not one of my better cycles, i am in the process of trying to make the best of a bad run.
Thanks Shadow… i am definitely inproving, i just should be doing better IMO, and Entourage, i have had loads of people think i was black on this site - i think it is down to Jackson and Haney being my avatars for so long.
J
[quote] Brook wrote:
Thanks Shadow… i am definitely inproving, i just should be doing better IMO, and Entourage, i have had loads of people think i was black on this site - i think it is down to Jackson and Haney being my avatars for so long.
J[/quote]
hahaha glad I can be one of those people.
I still sometimes forget.
Ya! you were one! Quite a few did!
I kinda wish i was! Black guys seem to have more muscle!
JJ
BOOOOOM! HELLO HORMONE!
lol! So, i am now all of a sudden getting results! I am now around the best shape i was at the peak of the last cycle and i have done 4 weeks.
I have been depressingly weak, unmotivated - the lot. I have recently started working a hell of a lot more than i have been used to of late and my training has suffered immensely.
But i hit the gym today and i must have done between 4-10 reps more on every exercise i did.
I have dropped bodyfat a little, i was around 14% before the cycle, i did a little drop to around 12% and am now nearer 10%.
I didnt realise how easy i had it though with my lax working patterns over the last year! God… throw 40 hours into the mix and it is a totally different ball game - my volume has halved, and i now have to plan my foods! I forgot how much work goes into this!
I am now going to crank up the food as much as possible - it is also a matter of cost right now, i have just booked a sleeve at my local ink shop and it is gonna be a good 25 hour piece. That shit costs.
Lift on!
[quote] Brook wrote:
i have just booked a sleeve at my local ink shop and it is gonna be a good 25 hour piece. That shit costs.[/quote]
What?
[quote] Brook wrote:
BOOOOOM! HELLO HORMONE!
lol! So, i am now all of a sudden getting results! I am now around the best shape i was at the peak of the last cycle and i have done 4 weeks.
I have been depressingly weak, unmotivated - the lot. I have recently started working a hell of a lot more than i have been used to of late and my training has suffered immensely.
But i hit the gym today and i must have done between 4-10 reps more on every exercise i did.
I have dropped bodyfat a little, i was around 14% before the cycle, i did a little drop to around 12% and am now nearer 10%.
I didnt realise how easy i had it though with my lax working patterns over the last year! God… throw 40 hours into the mix and it is a totally different ball game - my volume has halved, and i now have to plan my foods! I forgot how much work goes into this!
I am now going to crank up the food as much as possible - it is also a matter of cost right now, i have just booked a sleeve at my local ink shop and it is gonna be a good 25 hour piece. That shit costs.
Lift on![/quote]
Fucking awesome it is finally hitting for you mate!
Really happy for you buddy, keep kicking your tail in the gym, hit things hard now that shit’s rollin in.
Physique looked great imo, especially for such a rushed and shoddy picture.
Way to go JJ.
ToneBone
[quote]kayveeay wrote:
Brook wrote:
i have just booked a sleeve at my local ink shop and it is gonna be a good 25 hour piece. That shit costs.
What?
[/quote]
Getting my arm tattooed…
Ah. Gotcha, lol.
25 hours? Jesus!
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Brook wrote:
BOOOOOM! HELLO HORMONE!
lol! So, i am now all of a sudden getting results! I am now around the best shape i was at the peak of the last cycle and i have done 4 weeks.
I have been depressingly weak, unmotivated - the lot. I have recently started working a hell of a lot more than i have been used to of late and my training has suffered immensely.
But i hit the gym today and i must have done between 4-10 reps more on every exercise i did.
I have dropped bodyfat a little, i was around 14% before the cycle, i did a little drop to around 12% and am now nearer 10%.
I didnt realise how easy i had it though with my lax working patterns over the last year! God… throw 40 hours into the mix and it is a totally different ball game - my volume has halved, and i now have to plan my foods! I forgot how much work goes into this!
I am now going to crank up the food as much as possible - it is also a matter of cost right now, i have just booked a sleeve at my local ink shop and it is gonna be a good 25 hour piece. That shit costs.
Lift on!
Fucking awesome it is finally hitting for you mate!
Really happy for you buddy, keep kicking your tail in the gym, hit things hard now that shit’s rollin in.
Physique looked great imo, especially for such a rushed and shoddy picture.
Way to go JJ.
ToneBone[/quote]
Thanks tone… i have had to start training early doors for the first time - before work, and it is kicking my arse to be frank!
But this boost is what i have been waiting for to really motivate myself to blast through this tough time in the gym.
You gonna update your thread or what?? 
[quote] Brook wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
Brook wrote:
BOOOOOM! HELLO HORMONE!
lol! So, i am now all of a sudden getting results! I am now around the best shape i was at the peak of the last cycle and i have done 4 weeks.
I have been depressingly weak, unmotivated - the lot. I have recently started working a hell of a lot more than i have been used to of late and my training has suffered immensely.
But i hit the gym today and i must have done between 4-10 reps more on every exercise i did.
I have dropped bodyfat a little, i was around 14% before the cycle, i did a little drop to around 12% and am now nearer 10%.
I didnt realise how easy i had it though with my lax working patterns over the last year! God… throw 40 hours into the mix and it is a totally different ball game - my volume has halved, and i now have to plan my foods! I forgot how much work goes into this!
I am now going to crank up the food as much as possible - it is also a matter of cost right now, i have just booked a sleeve at my local ink shop and it is gonna be a good 25 hour piece. That shit costs.
Lift on!
Fucking awesome it is finally hitting for you mate!
Really happy for you buddy, keep kicking your tail in the gym, hit things hard now that shit’s rollin in.
Physique looked great imo, especially for such a rushed and shoddy picture.
Way to go JJ.
ToneBone
Thanks tone… i have had to start training early doors for the first time - before work, and it is kicking my arse to be frank!
But this boost is what i have been waiting for to really motivate myself to blast through this tough time in the gym.
You gonna update your thread or what?? ;)[/quote]
The gh one? Yeah, lol, I have been dragging ass with that one while I wait for the surgery to get done and all.
Incidentally, I finally have a date on that, Sep 26. Yipee!
I’ll be posting on it here soon though.
Tone
p.s. what are you gettin on the sleeve design-wise?
Glad to hear it really getting started!
Tone - sleeve is a mish-mash of Takashi Murakami images… Japanese pop Art.
Kinda like Pokemon’s Nightmares…
[quote] Brook wrote:
Tone - sleeve is a mish-mash of Takashi Murakami images… Japanese pop Art.
Kinda like Pokemon’s Nightmares…[/quote]
LOL pokemon nightmares hahaha…like the analogy.
Should look sick man.
I know it will take 25hrs of ink and a several days of scabbin over, but when it’s done post a pic or shoot me one or something.
I don’t have any tattoos (yet) but your sleeve sounds like something that is not your typical tat. I’d like to see it just based on the fact I don’t think I’ve seen any tats like it before that I know of 
lol
DG
so how is the cycle going dood?
DG
I am not happy really…
So i finished the drol and winny - i enjoyed that, my strength is up - but not crazy… i am simply a little stronger - say 5-10kgs on most lifts across the board.
I am looking good, my chest and delts have taken on a new shape i was needing, my legs are still in need of bringing up but are in good proportion all the same,
my biceps have improved as have my lats ( biceps, lats and chest were all focused on over the past 2 months or so) and i have gotten my motivation up to par in the gym.
I am also getting more attention from people than ever before… women are checking me out multiple times a day (and i have been away from the wife for 4 months - it is very hard, pun intended) and i have been turning heads of both sexes… maybe i walk funny.
But i dont know, i just dont feel like i am gaining like i should be… i have gained a total of 12lbs over the last 5 weeks (on 6th week now) and i just feel i should be growing more than this…
I do feel that i restrict the water that is usually seen with the drugs i am using (test/drol) and as such i will never get the massive swings in size.
I have had numerous issues with my gear though.
Test and Eq were from a source i no longer have dealings with - as the Eq was very high in BA so it needed cooking AND cutting.
The test has re-crystalized a couple of times, so i have re-vialed it and cooked that too… which is fine now, although i seem to have an abscess in my delt from it (and the test has imflamed the muscle/soft tissue after injection virtually every time).
I have some Fluoxycillin on hand for moments like this. (my sterility procedures are as high or higher than ever - i even wipe off the top of the vials with alcoholic wipes now and use a new pin for everything).
So test wise, my libido was waaay up during the drol/win cycle but as soon as i stopped that (sunday), it dropped… I am beginning to suspect this test is fucking bunk. I am going to give it time though, as it is around this time i start to make gains on Cypionate.
Eq - no hunger, no discernable strength increases or size, no real vascularity either - which is fine, as i am probably 11% or so, so a little high to reap those benefits - plus i do get some nice hardness/grain in the delts from proviron and possibly the eq… as seen in the pictures earlier i think.
But i have not seen any evidence of any positives for using the drug yet - BUT it is an undeclynate ester - so there is time isnt there?
Of those who have used Eq how long was it before you noticed anything if you noticed anything at all?
Another thing… all my spots have cleared up…! That is just fucking dodgy if you ask me!
I am showering very regularly, and using oil retardant spot wipes daily… but still - with everything else it is adding to the suspicion.
However i do have the aggression (always with the aggression…), confidence, SOME strength, and i am in good shape so what the fuck am i bitching about?!
I am dropping my dose though… i was running 750mg Cyp and 600mg Eq - these are ridiculous doses for me, and i am more comfortable between 250-500mg of test really… so i am dropping to 500/400 respectively.
That is still just under a gram a week… and still represents the highest i will be going in the future.
Seeing as i have grown well from 200mg of Nandrolone a week - then if that doesnt give results then something is wrong.
I am also a little concerned with all these UGL companies who are really in essence producing the fakes that we all used to steer clear from 10 years back. I am thinking of getting 100 omna amps - or maybe 50 with 1000 naposim.
They are real pharm (not the dbol obv. but i have had amazing results from naposim in the past) and actually priced at the same amount as the UGL shit i am currently using (and who i recommend all stay away from - they refused to reply once after i had a problem.
[AS]
If i didnt know a little about how to put a powder in a carrier and why certain procedures are used, then the products would have been unusable to me).
I would be interested to hear of any of your thoughts as to my issues and if you think i am being hasty in my thinking i am shooting olive oil.
OH… one more thing… diet. It is pretty bad. I absolutely need to eat more, but i am really struggling at the moment, my appetite is simply not there… quite the opposite of what i expected TBH.
I intend to up my protein and whole-food meals, and go from there… i want about 20 x BW so just shy of 4000kcals. I have found that i have never needed more than this to grow at a decent rate so far (on gear).
Also i got burned twice by 2 different sources too - the first times ever. Fucking olympics.
All in all i am having a bad month…! 
JJ
Hate to see a guy get bunk gear; sadly all to common these days.
12lbs in 5 weeks tells me something is real. At your stage of development you cannot just do that naturally. Also as you well know there is a de-sensitization to gear. We don’t gain the same off the same dosage levels as we did the first or second go around if we did we’d all be Jay and Ronnie.
Having said that your levels of test and eq were and still are very adequate if both products are real and properly dosed.
Just keep on keeping on JJ. You’re still on pace for 20lbs in 2 months. At my heaviest I only was up 18lbs from starting weight during my cycle.
Ya - i know you are right of course… it is just so damn frustrating.
As i read my post back i thought “12lbs in 5 weeks? And i am complaining?! I have it too easy!”