My Turn- Test Eq & Some Other Crap

Pharma
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[quote]Dave1188 wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
I really don’t care, half his posts are corny jokes and thread derailments. That’s why it’s called post whoring.

Here’s my advice- don’t take steroid/diet/training advice from a heroin addict.

so you dont see any difference between a heroin addict and a EX heroin addict? just curious. A lot of top level bodybuilders use rec drugs of various sorts, how do you explain that phenomena? [/quote]

I don’t consider someone who’s only been off heroin 7 months to be an EX heroin addict, especially when referring to their last heroin relapse they say, and I quote- “and i THINK it IS the last”(capital emphasis on ‘think’ mine). “Think” it’s the last? Sure, he’s an “ex” heroin addict, who thinks he’s done. lol.

As for bodybuilders using recreational drugs, is this based off their own admittance, or unverifiable rumors?

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[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
Dave1188 wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
I really don’t care, half his posts are corny jokes and thread derailments. That’s why it’s called post whoring.

Here’s my advice- don’t take steroid/diet/training advice from a heroin addict.

so you dont see any difference between a heroin addict and a EX heroin addict? just curious. A lot of top level bodybuilders use rec drugs of various sorts, how do you explain that phenomena?
I don’t consider someone who’s only been off heroin 7 months to be an EX heroin addict, especially when referring to their last heroin relapse they say, and I quote- “and i THINK it IS the last”(capital emphasis on ‘think’ mine). “Think” it’s the last? Sure, he’s an “ex” heroin addict, who thinks he’s done. lol.

As for bodybuilders using recreational drugs, is this based off their own admittance, or unverifiable rumors? [/quote]

The fact remains that besides having to dig up old threads, I haven’t seen you post anything helpful to other people here. Are you going to change that? Or continue to be a troll in this thread who has “tenure”?

I recently joined this forum and it would be nice to hear some experienced BB’ers give more advice instead of calling out other people’s faults. I think I speak for most when I say this.

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[quote]Thatguy1083 wrote:
The fact remains that besides having to dig up old threads, I haven’t seen you post anything helpful to other people here. Are you going to change that? Or continue to be a troll in this thread who has “tenure”?

I recently joined this forum and it would be nice to hear some experienced BB’ers give more advice instead of calling out other people’s faults. I think I speak for most when I say this.[/quote]

Indeed.

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[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
Brook wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
Game_over wrote:
now he does say in that post PAST cycles, so i tend to believe he is clean now as far as recs go.

Well id have to say i bet hes mean with a needle :wink: But i still stick to my verdict that even though he may have been addicted to some bad shit, that doesnt give me sufficiant reason to think that he has no clue about AAS.

i believe one could be knowledgeable about both categories (whether one should be or not is a different discussion) I will say that you are right in the fact that he did post at an alarming rate for awhile lol
Ok, well, would you take advice from a guy who was addicted/using heroin for many years? Just because he also may be knowledgeable somewhat about AAS doesn’t change the fact that he can’t kick hard drugs…

My point being would YOU take AAS advice from a multi-substance addict? I mean seriously, I already know the answer, I just want you to say it lol.

lol!

YOU dont need to take advice from anyone punchy…

Please dont assume to think you know jack shit about me, my life or my drug use because you read a 1 minute long post i made!

Ridiculous.

I am NOT going to explain myself to you pal, and as far as i can see - any of the people here who io give a fuck about what they think, know whats what. They know i use less drugs than most people who post here (do you drink? Do you smoke? Do pot?)
and they are educated enough to not slam someone just because of a past.

Shit, i have met many fucks like you in real life… it is really sad the amount of intolerance there is. Still, i may be an EX-junkie, but you are an arsehole. I quit junk, did you quit arse?

Brook

You use less drugs than most people who post here? Are you serious? Yeah, I drink maybe once a month, and no I don’t smoke- cigarettes or pot. Wtf are you talking about? When did everyone here become addicted rec users?

The point is no one in their right mind willingly takes advice from a heroin addict on how to diet or cycle AAS properly. GET REAL. These guys can say whatever they want, I think that’s extremely poor judgment on their part. I wouldn’t listen to crack heads or meth addicts who just so also happen to lift and use steroids. I don’t think anyone here should either, but of course that’s up to them, just my opinion.[/quote]

Not trying to jump in on the argument or piss anybody off, but in any subject, if the advice given is correct, should their lifestyle matter? Only reason I bring this up is because I know a few people who are into the knowledge of supplements, steroids, bodybuilding etc, but don’t seem to practice it.

Although they don’t practice their knowledge and their physique shows because of it, I still trust them from what they’ve learned.

again I don’t want to piss anybody off, but I was reading the thread and added my .02

DG

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For the sake of Inner Hulk I have seen his contributions to this site, and I value information he gives.

On the flip side I don’t see a reason to attack Brook unless he is giving false information, regardless of if he is “post whoring” or an “ex junkie”.

Do people really look at how many posts somebody has? I personally look at the info.

Gerdy

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Wow, being a former Alcoholic myself, I am totally floored right now in respects to the attacks on Brook. Those rants were totally uncalled for, and absolute bullshit! Obviously, you have no effing idea what it is like to have a serious dependency, from a personal standpoint. Not to mention, there are MANY factors for why people fall into addiction. Some of those reasons aren’t too pretty either.

Many of us had horrific childhoods, or witnessed traumatic events- Life altering kinda shit. So, don’t throw stones at glass houses. You’re a fucking juicer innerhulk. Just like the rest of us. What makes you better than any other drug user. Are you going to tell me that because I used to be a raging and completely out of control alcoholic- That I don’t know my shit about Anabolics, and should be the last person to seek advice from?

I sure as shit hope you wouldn’t. Because, I’ve been in the game since 94’, well before most of you assclowns started buying your gear on the internet and acting all big and bad on these forums. It’s one thing if you give a guy shit for being new, or if for some ODD reason it really gets your panties in a bunch that said person posts too much or too quickly for YOUR tastes (heaven forbid).

But, to outright attack someone for an addiction that they suffered through, is nothing less than pathetic. Your comments may have been directed towards Brook, but this is a public forum. Which means, that when you started slamming him for being an addict- You basically said the same goddamn thing to me and anyone else who has suffered with addiction and reads these posts.

And I can guaran-fuckin-tee that I will never be half as well-tempered, or cordial as Brook was with his response to your “verbal diarrhea tirade”. You should have just been a man (which is probably too much to ask), instead of being a complete jackoff (which you seem to pull off with ease), by PM’ing Brook with your slanted views. I was going to PM you myself, with this little retort of mine. But, I figured, what the fuck. If innerhulk can do it, so can I.

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Brook, first off hi nice to meet you and thanks for being so honest about everything. It’s interesting to hear about a cycle this huge.
I’m in the same boat about gear, if you got it, fill the syringe up.

I do have a couple of questions:

  1. What psychological effects have this much gear had on you opposed to other cycles?

  2. With your addictive personality have you had any problems stopping a cycle.

  3. How do you like EQ?

Oh and I agree, work sucks.

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[quote]MariusDominator wrote:
Wow, being a former Alcoholic myself, I am totally floored right now in respects to the attacks on Brook. Those rants were totally uncalled for, and absolute bullshit! Obviously, you have no effing idea what it is like to have a serious dependency, from a personal standpoint. Not to mention, there are MANY factors for why people fall into addiction. Some of those reasons aren’t too pretty either. Many of us had horrific childhoods, or witnessed traumatic events- Life altering kinda shit. So, don’t throw stones at glass houses. You’re a fucking juicer innerhulk. Just like the rest of us. What makes you better than any other drug user. Are you going to tell me that because I used to be a raging and completely out of control alcoholic- That I don’t know my shit about Anabolics, and should be the last person to seek advice from? I sure as shit hope you wouldn’t. Because, I’ve been in the game since 94’, well before most of you assclowns started buying your gear on the internet and acting all big and bad on these forums. It’s one thing if you give a guy shit for being new, or if for some ODD reason it really gets your panties in a bunch that said person posts too much or too quickly for YOUR tastes (heaven forbid). But, to outright attack someone for an addiction that they suffered through, is nothing less than pathetic. Your comments may have been directed towards Brook, but this is a public forum. Which means, that when you started slamming him for being an addict- You basically said the same goddamn thing to me and anyone else who has suffered with addiction and reads these posts. And I can guaran-fuckin-tee that I will never be half as well-tempered, or cordial as Brook was with his response to your “verbal diarrhea tirade”. You should have just been a man (which is probably too much to ask), instead of being a complete jackoff (which you seem to pull off with ease), by PM’ing Brook with your slanted views. I was going to PM you myself, with this little retort of mine. But, I figured, what the fuck. If innerhulk can do it, so can I.

[/quote]

x2. The ownage continues…

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[quote]MariusDominator wrote:
Wow, being a former Alcoholic myself, I am totally floored right now in respects to the attacks on Brook. Those rants were totally uncalled for, and absolute bullshit! Obviously, you have no effing idea what it is like to have a serious dependency, from a personal standpoint. Not to mention, there are MANY factors for why people fall into addiction. Some of those reasons aren’t too pretty either. Many of us had horrific childhoods, or witnessed traumatic events- Life altering kinda shit. So, don’t throw stones at glass houses. You’re a fucking juicer innerhulk. Just like the rest of us. What makes you better than any other drug user. Are you going to tell me that because I used to be a raging and completely out of control alcoholic- That I don’t know my shit about Anabolics, and should be the last person to seek advice from? I sure as shit hope you wouldn’t. Because, I’ve been in the game since 94’, well before most of you assclowns started buying your gear on the internet and acting all big and bad on these forums. It’s one thing if you give a guy shit for being new, or if for some ODD reason it really gets your panties in a bunch that said person posts too much or too quickly for YOUR tastes (heaven forbid). But, to outright attack someone for an addiction that they suffered through, is nothing less than pathetic. Your comments may have been directed towards Brook, but this is a public forum. Which means, that when you started slamming him for being an addict- You basically said the same goddamn thing to me and anyone else who has suffered with addiction and reads these posts. And I can guaran-fuckin-tee that I will never be half as well-tempered, or cordial as Brook was with his response to your “verbal diarrhea tirade”. You should have just been a man (which is probably too much to ask), instead of being a complete jackoff (which you seem to pull off with ease), by PM’ing Brook with your slanted views. I was going to PM you myself, with this little retort of mine. But, I figured, what the fuck. If innerhulk can do it, so can I.

[/quote]

Couldn’t have put it better myself, thankyou Marius.

Brook

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What you seem to misunderstand Inner-Hulk, is that you dont NEED to listen to anything i say.

I come here to share with friends, because i enjoy bodybuilding and sharing my knowledge and theirs… i dont post for people to feel they have to listen,. or to get a large post count, or even to become a ‘vet’.

I dont care about that shit… i post simply because i post - if you dont like what i write, by all means pull me up - but having an issue with the NUMBER of posts, or any aspect that is none of your business to comment on is, well… bollocks.

By the way, i wrote ‘THINK’ not because i may use due to desire - i wont, it has ravaged my family (wife and i) to such a degree… i never want to see that shit again. We are both happy and healthy now, and i intend to keep it that way.

BUT if something were to happen, a death or some other such horrible thing, well… who knows how one will react. Especially with the psychological issues a hardcore addiction means one has dealt/to deal with.

You are naive and uneducated when it comes to drugs and addiction - even AAS it seems, as you are mistaken in the belief that you are better than another drug user simply because of your choice of drug.
You may be better if you dont lie, or steal or cheat… but not because of your simple choice of drug.

PLUS - i could be stoned out of my brain (dont worry people, it wont happen, i dont even drink), but as i know how that drug affects my judgement and decisions, i know that the info i would give would be sound and safe still!
It doesnt affecrt your thinking like that - some of the most creative people on the earth have been addicts… fact.

I wasnt always a hardcore bodybuilder either, you think that i was shooting drugs when i was training or some shit? Well, there you go… ignorance. It was in a cyclic fashion - some months i wouldnt be training and some i would clean up and throw myself into it…
(YOU try to gain more than 10-14 quality lbs from 200mg Deca over 6 weeks!)

Peace brother, i’d truly fuck you up IRL you know that dont you? Do you run around giving this view to people you meet…? Internet hard guy! Nice one big man…

ROFL!

Brook

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Couldn’t have put it better myself, thankyou Marius.

Brook[/quote]

Anytime man.

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[quote]MariusDominator wrote:
Wow, being a former Alcoholic myself, I am totally floored right now in respects to the attacks on Brook. Those rants were totally uncalled for, and absolute bullshit! Obviously, you have no effing idea what it is like to have a serious dependency, from a personal standpoint. Not to mention, there are MANY factors for why people fall into addiction. Some of those reasons aren’t too pretty either. Many of us had horrific childhoods, or witnessed traumatic events- Life altering kinda shit. So, don’t throw stones at glass houses. You’re a fucking juicer innerhulk. Just like the rest of us. What makes you better than any other drug user. Are you going to tell me that because I used to be a raging and completely out of control alcoholic- That I don’t know my shit about Anabolics, and should be the last person to seek advice from? I sure as shit hope you wouldn’t. Because, I’ve been in the game since 94’, well before most of you assclowns started buying your gear on the internet and acting all big and bad on these forums. It’s one thing if you give a guy shit for being new, or if for some ODD reason it really gets your panties in a bunch that said person posts too much or too quickly for YOUR tastes (heaven forbid). But, to outright attack someone for an addiction that they suffered through, is nothing less than pathetic. Your comments may have been directed towards Brook, but this is a public forum. Which means, that when you started slamming him for being an addict- You basically said the same goddamn thing to me and anyone else who has suffered with addiction and reads these posts. And I can guaran-fuckin-tee that I will never be half as well-tempered, or cordial as Brook was with his response to your “verbal diarrhea tirade”. You should have just been a man (which is probably too much to ask), instead of being a complete jackoff (which you seem to pull off with ease), by PM’ing Brook with your slanted views. I was going to PM you myself, with this little retort of mine. But, I figured, what the fuck. If innerhulk can do it, so can I.

[/quote]

So what you’re saying is that using steroids is comparable to a raging and out of control alocholic? Is that what you seriously just implied?

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[quote] Brook wrote:
What you seem to misunderstand Inner-Hulk, is that you dont NEED to listen to anything i say.

I come here to share with friends, because i enjoy bodybuilding and sharing my knowledge and theirs… i dont post for people to feel they have to listen,. or to get a large post count, or even to become a ‘vet’.

I dont care about that shit… i post simply because i post - if you dont like what i write, by all means pull me up - but having an issue with the NUMBER of posts, or any aspect that is none of your business to comment on is, well… bollocks.

By the way, i wrote ‘THINK’ not because i may use due to desire - i wont, it has ravaged my family (wife and i) to such a degree… i never want to see that shit again. We are both happy and healthy now, and i intend to keep it that way.

BUT if something were to happen, a death or some other such horrible thing, well… who knows how one will react. Especially with the psychological issues a hardcore addiction means one has dealt/to deal with.

You are naive and uneducated when it comes to drugs and addiction - even AAS it seems, as you are mistaken in the belief that you are better than another drug user simply because of your choice of drug.
You may be better if you dont lie, or steal or cheat… but not because of your simple choice of drug.

PLUS - i could be stoned out of my brain (dont worry people, it wont happen, i dont even drink), but as i know how that drug affects my judgement and decisions, i know that the info i would give would be sound and safe still!
It doesnt affecrt your thinking like that - some of the most creative people on the earth have been addicts… fact.

I wasnt always a hardcore bodybuilder either, you think that i was shooting drugs when i was training or some shit? Well, there you go… ignorance. It was in a cyclic fashion - some months i wouldnt be training and some i would clean up and throw myself into it…
(YOU try to gain more than 10-14 quality lbs from 200mg Deca over 6 weeks!)

Peace brother, i’d truly fuck you up IRL you know that dont you? Do you run around giving this view to people you meet…? Internet hard guy! Nice one big man…

ROFL!

Brook[/quote]

Well Brook I hope for your sake you stay clean, I’m just saying it hurts your chances of being taken seriously or being listened to when you start discussing your variety of substance abuse problems. At least I think it should, that’s my opinion.

I can’t make this longer, as I have to go to work in a minute, though I’d love to stay on all day and rack up 200 posts in a day like some… but you call me an “internet hard guy”, hilariously RIGHT AFTER you say “I’d truly fuck you up IRL”, LoL. Yeah, I’ve always been quite fearful of buck fifty heroin junky pieces of shit with syringes hanging out of their arms. But keep on with your self deluded bullshit, you’re the toughest SOB T-Nation has ever seen.

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[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
MariusDominator wrote:
Wow, being a former Alcoholic myself, I am totally floored right now in respects to the attacks on Brook. Those rants were totally uncalled for, and absolute bullshit! Obviously, you have no effing idea what it is like to have a serious dependency, from a personal standpoint. Not to mention, there are MANY factors for why people fall into addiction. Some of those reasons aren’t too pretty either. Many of us had horrific childhoods, or witnessed traumatic events- Life altering kinda shit. So, don’t throw stones at glass houses. You’re a fucking juicer innerhulk. Just like the rest of us. What makes you better than any other drug user. Are you going to tell me that because I used to be a raging and completely out of control alcoholic- That I don’t know my shit about Anabolics, and should be the last person to seek advice from? I sure as shit hope you wouldn’t. Because, I’ve been in the game since 94’, well before most of you assclowns started buying your gear on the internet and acting all big and bad on these forums. It’s one thing if you give a guy shit for being new, or if for some ODD reason it really gets your panties in a bunch that said person posts too much or too quickly for YOUR tastes (heaven forbid). But, to outright attack someone for an addiction that they suffered through, is nothing less than pathetic. Your comments may have been directed towards Brook, but this is a public forum. Which means, that when you started slamming him for being an addict- You basically said the same goddamn thing to me and anyone else who has suffered with addiction and reads these posts. And I can guaran-fuckin-tee that I will never be half as well-tempered, or cordial as Brook was with his response to your “verbal diarrhea tirade”. You should have just been a man (which is probably too much to ask), instead of being a complete jackoff (which you seem to pull off with ease), by PM’ing Brook with your slanted views. I was going to PM you myself, with this little retort of mine. But, I figured, what the fuck. If innerhulk can do it, so can I.

So what you’re saying is that using steroids is comparable to a raging and out of control alocholic? Is that what you seriously just implied?[/quote]

I didn’t see that implication, did I miss something?

J, I’m glad you have made a change for the better. I also applaude your efforts to help all of us and your unselfishness in posting your past obstacles.

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[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
Brook wrote:
What you seem to misunderstand Inner-Hulk, is that you dont NEED to listen to anything i say.

I come here to share with friends, because i enjoy bodybuilding and sharing my knowledge and theirs… i dont post for people to feel they have to listen,. or to get a large post count, or even to become a ‘vet’.

I dont care about that shit… i post simply because i post - if you dont like what i write, by all means pull me up - but having an issue with the NUMBER of posts, or any aspect that is none of your business to comment on is, well… bollocks.

By the way, i wrote ‘THINK’ not because i may use due to desire - i wont, it has ravaged my family (wife and i) to such a degree… i never want to see that shit again. We are both happy and healthy now, and i intend to keep it that way.

BUT if something were to happen, a death or some other such horrible thing, well… who knows how one will react. Especially with the psychological issues a hardcore addiction means one has dealt/to deal with.

You are naive and uneducated when it comes to drugs and addiction - even AAS it seems, as you are mistaken in the belief that you are better than another drug user simply because of your choice of drug.
You may be better if you dont lie, or steal or cheat… but not because of your simple choice of drug.

PLUS - i could be stoned out of my brain (dont worry people, it wont happen, i dont even drink), but as i know how that drug affects my judgement and decisions, i know that the info i would give would be sound and safe still!
It doesnt affecrt your thinking like that - some of the most creative people on the earth have been addicts… fact.

I wasnt always a hardcore bodybuilder either, you think that i was shooting drugs when i was training or some shit? Well, there you go… ignorance. It was in a cyclic fashion - some months i wouldnt be training and some i would clean up and throw myself into it…
(YOU try to gain more than 10-14 quality lbs from 200mg Deca over 6 weeks!)

Peace brother, i’d truly fuck you up IRL you know that dont you? Do you run around giving this view to people you meet…? Internet hard guy! Nice one big man…

ROFL!

Brook

Well Brook I hope for your sake you stay clean, I’m just saying it hurts your chances of being taken seriously or being listened to when you start discussing your variety of substance abuse problems. At least I think it should, that’s my opinion.

I can’t make this longer, as I have to go to work in a minute, though I’d love to stay on all day and rack up 200 posts in a day like some… but you call me an “internet hard guy”, hilariously RIGHT AFTER you say “I’d truly fuck you up IRL”, LoL. Yeah, I’ve always been quite fearful of buck fifty heroin junky pieces of shit with syringes hanging out of their arms. But keep on with your self deluded bullshit, you’re the toughest SOB T-Nation has ever seen.[/quote]

Yep, thats me - 150lbs with needles hanging out of my arms…! Can you even read?

Jesus lad, if you truly think that someones weight/size has ANYTHING to do with ‘toughness’ then you are in for a shock.

The point was, you wouldnt get the chance to have such in-tolerant and hate filled views of me in real life - simple as that. So you can only say it now because you can hide behind an IP address… thats the fact matey boy.

Now get the fuck out of my thread. You have changed the topic for long enough.

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[quote]Future2501 wrote:
Brook, first off hi nice to meet you and thanks for being so honest about everything. It’s interesting to hear about a cycle this huge. [/quote]

Really? Do you think it is that big? It IS big for me… but look at the other lads on here…[quote]

I’m in the same boat about gear, if you got it, fill the syringe up.

I do have a couple of questions:

  1. What psychological effects have this much gear had on you opposed to other cycles?[/quote]

None actually… other than the first week - where i really was ‘black’… as in a black hole inside my head…
I was overly aggressive at a couple of people - and i regretted it immediately… It was only a while after i realised that it was due to the frontload.[quote]

  1. With your addictive personality have you had any problems stopping a cycle.[/quote]

Nah… i dont think that plays much part in AAS use - its really hard to differenciate(sp?) TBH.[quote]

  1. How do you like EQ?[/quote]

Sorry fella… i am on week 3… havent got a clue yet![quote]

Oh and I agree, work sucks.
[/quote]

Yes. Yes it does.

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So what you’re saying is that using steroids is comparable to a raging and out of control alocholic? Is that what you seriously just implied?[/quote]

LOL. Jesus breakdancing christ! You are even more dense than I first assumed. You definitely need to brush up on those reading comprehension skills. I merely inferred, that just because I was a former alcoholic, that should not negate my Steroid knowledge.

I also feel, that if you take drugs of any kind- Whether it be alcohol, cigarettes, steroids, heroin etc. Then, you really shouldn’t be preaching a whole hell of a lot to the choir, about what you (personally think) someone should or shouldn’t be doing.

That is the “pot calling the kettle black”, in the simplest of terms. I also find it curious, why people like yourself- “so called vets”, find it extremely important to be the “internet poilce” on sites like this. Not only is it comical, but it really shows what a complete cockbag someone is- When they scream bloody murder about someone posting too much, or not meeting (their personal standards).

The whole cyber-bully thing, is really trite. It allows a person to verbally attack someone, except there are never any consequences for those actions. Unlike in the real world, where retribution can be swift and without mercy.

I would absolutely fucking love it, if someone actually had a set of balls, to talk smack to me like (internet tough guys) do. Strangely enough, no one ever does! I don’t give a sweet fuck, if someone like you has a zillion posts, or is some kinda “super vet”. It doesn’t change the fact, that you are being an asshole. Time to grow up, school is out.

-MD

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[quote]MariusDominator wrote:
Unlike in the real world, where retribution can be swift and without mercy. I would absolutely fucking love it, if someone actually had a set of balls, to talk smack to me like (internet tough guys) do. Strangely enough, no one ever does!-MD [/quote]
ha ha i like that … thats funny…

theres some people around here been drinking too much haterade…(yo you post too much on the forums motherfucker!)

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Wow… after lurking this forum for a while , I cannot believe that someone is trying to justify using one needle over another.

One is a fix, the other makes you bigger.
And umm longterm use, from any drug is the exact same in the end, we all die… be it pot, meth, alcohol ,heroin, steroids, they all have consequences. And they all plant that seed in you that will eventually turn into something bigger.

We all have our demons, and we are all sinners.
I am happy that Brook was able to overcome some of his, But umm hulk you need to realize that if he goes back to his previous ways then well you are right, your rebuke has merit in the fact that if he does fail to quit the dope then yes you are right about that, nobody is going to argue with you there.

Mr inner hulk.
Although if he does quit forever, then you just judged someone where its only gods right to do so. We all pay for our sins in this life so why are you worrying about his? what he does to his body is his choice ,its his temple… how is self destruction using dope any different than self destruction using anything else?

you just like the idea of the steroid mentality ,put it on some pedestal when its just as dirty in the end, and come here so you can justify your use with other users. How can you put another “drug” user down? when you are one yourself, hypocrite.

Although anyones knowledge on any particular subject he has researched is still there, it takes complete ignorance to deny that. If your mind is clouded by a substance it doesn’t mean you cant learn about something and give an opinion on it… this is a forum thats what its here for.

Why would i trust a steroid user for cycle information over him? everyones body reacts differently so why would anyones opinion truly make a difference?..

/end rant.