My Turn- Test Eq & Some Other Crap

Pharma
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I guess there is such a thing as karma. JJ made fun of me once for a low post count. Now he’s getting his for a high one. Hehe…

Anyways, I don’t think it matters what things a person has done in their past as long as they somewhat know what they’re talking about. Besides, he’s not still doing it like a lot of the addicts out there.

If I had to take AAS advice from a hairdresser that read about them, I probably wouldn’t listen. The same advice from a baby junkie? Just maybe, especially if they’ve actually used them themselves.

Regardless of where advice comes from here, most people don’t just listen to the opinion of one person and then run to put it into action. I would imagine most people here listen to a few people and then decide their course of action. So whether JJ posts like a bat outta hell or not, it doesn’t really matter.

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[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
Nich wrote:
I can personaly identify with this guy.

maybe your “higher class” than that but its real and it happens
sometimes life isnt lived out of a book its lived in the streets and good people do bad things. its what you do with the knowledge that is gained by the mistakes you make that matters.
I’m not “higher class”, I’ve had friends deal with drug problems and rehab, but if they also dabbled in AAS I sure as shit wouldn’t take any advice from them. That’s my point.[/quote]

point taken,
I wouldnt take the advice from any of my criminal “friends” either but would I take car advice from the pro car thief that fed his family by shipping stolen car parts over seas?
in fact I do all the time because that person is now a pro auto tech and a damned good one if i do say so myself

but my point is that just because he has done things in his personal life that other people dont agree with that dosent mean he dosent know what hes talking about and that stuff isnt behind him.

dont totally write a person off because of past actions
seems like he knows what hes talking about for the most part let that speak for itself if he fucks that up let him do it without being judged for stuff tha tdosent mater.

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[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:

Ok, well, would you take advice from a guy who was addicted/using heroin for many years? Just because he also may be knowledgeable somewhat about AAS doesn’t change the fact that he can’t kick hard drugs… My point being would YOU take AAS advice from a multi-substance addict? I mean seriously, I already know the answer, I just want you to say it lol.[/quote]

hey tough guy… its takes alot more balls to admit to your downfalls and share, than it does to shit and piss on a good poster someone who has dedicated a lot of his time to other people
consider that!!!

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all right im doin it again…its an open forum
and ive been getting offended on other peoples behalf lately

hang me!

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[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
So the guy who’s been living in the steroids section for the past few months whoring out thousands of posts in record time is a recent recovering heroin junky(7 months clean! WOW), and former coke and amphetamine addict… A guy who runs cycles with boatloads of recs. And this is the new steroid guru. Lmao, again.

Un-fucking-real.[/quote]

You’re a fucking cunt. And it’s been a while since I’ve attacked someone on here.

He’s given me shit loads of helpful advice, which you have done none of.

Opiates, amphetamines, and cocaine have nothing to do whatsoever with anabolic steroids. First of all, opiates, amphetamines, and coke are all chemically addictive, sometimes on the first try. There is little the person can do to combat the addiction once it has set in, and it often snowballs before they realize they have a problem.
In contrast, AAS are not addicting, the only ‘addiction’ is an emotional desire to be bigger and feel bigger. One does not experience near-death symptoms when going off cycle. Therefore, being a former opiate and amphetamine addict does not impact JJ’s ability to give advice on AAS.

It would be one thing if he was giving tons of advice on kicking heroin or cocaine addictions (Which he might be qualiffied to to, since he did it himself, although it took a while). He’s not, he’s giving advice on something that he knows a shit ton about. Probably the only reason he gained 10 lbs on deca cycles is because he was using drugs alongside. Shit, that doesn’t mean he doesn’t know about steroids, it means he couldn’t kick an addiction.

The fact that he has a record number of posts in a short period of time doesn’t mean SHIT. If anything, it means he has allocated more of his time to helping others. You notice how if you go to the AAS section sometimes it says “most recent post” Brook… all the way down? Find one bad peice of advice he’s given.
As someone who has some pretty big demons himself, I find it truly offensive that you think a person’s past solely determines their present and future. I have really close friends who have serious drug problems as well. And they’re sophomores in college. If they can kick the habit and end up becoming top doctors/surgeons/lawyers… whatever… you can bet your ass I’m going to them.

When I have a question or need some advice, there are a few people on here that I know I can count on to help me out. Brook is definitely one of them, and I couldn’t care less what he’s done in his past.

JJ/Brook… how is your progress coming?

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[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
Game_over wrote:
now he does say in that post PAST cycles, so i tend to believe he is clean now as far as recs go.

Well id have to say i bet hes mean with a needle :wink: But i still stick to my verdict that even though he may have been addicted to some bad shit, that doesnt give me sufficiant reason to think that he has no clue about AAS.

i believe one could be knowledgeable about both categories (whether one should be or not is a different discussion) I will say that you are right in the fact that he did post at an alarming rate for awhile lol
Ok, well, would you take advice from a guy who was addicted/using heroin for many years? Just because he also may be knowledgeable somewhat about AAS doesn’t change the fact that he can’t kick hard drugs…

My point being would YOU take AAS advice from a multi-substance addict? I mean seriously, I already know the answer, I just want you to say it lol.[/quote]

lol!

YOU dont need to take advice from anyone punchy…

Please dont assume to think you know jack shit about me, my life or my drug use because you read a 1 minute long post i made!

Ridiculous.

I am NOT going to explain myself to you pal, and as far as i can see - any of the people here who io give a fuck about what they think, know whats what. They know i use less drugs than most people who post here (do you drink? Do you smoke? Do pot?)
and they are educated enough to not slam someone just because of a past.

Shit, i have met many fucks like you in real life… it is really sad the amount of intolerance there is. Still, i may be an EX-junkie, but you are an arsehole. I quit junk, did you quit arse?

Brook

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And i must say, i really appreciate all the pro-posts i received on this subject, although it is a little off topic.
It was to give a little background to my results from past cycles - not my knowledge or any past issues.

I have paid for my choices many many many times over, lost loved ones and friends and jobs and girls - not because i acted badly, i never stole and lyed etc… it was just down to the destructive nature of the drug… You got a little sample of it there.

Anyway, cycle is going OK… i am still just on the test and eq… so i feel i am on the calm before the storm here - got drol in a couple days though! yeaaahh!

In the words of Boxer666 - “I’m Blowing Up Dudes”

Brook

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I myself can never quit ass

ass is good mmmmkay

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[quote]Nich wrote:
I myself can never quit ass

ass is good mmmmkay
[/quote]

yea their pretty fun lol

anyway jj is very helpful and i dont see how his past reflects his aas advice. I smoke weed every night, which i dont consider bad but some might. How does that effect me knowing how to run aas correctly? Weed and coke/heroin are completely different things, but hulks comments remain pretty ignorant.

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Steroids are illegal and they are drugs shit inner hulk your nothing more than the “pot” calling the kettle “black”.

Shit this man does help alot of people on aas use my self one.

He has done his home work for sure and you knock him down for getting clean a ljob and bettering himself!!!

You just lost a lot of respect from me bubba.

And joseph “HELL YEAH” i salute you for what your doing hang in there friend.

The Red Neck,
JUDGE

Oh yeah you haven’t mentioned any letro yet???

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Oh… Letro (i always forget, like protein, AI’s are ‘just a given’ IMO…)

  • the letro is being run around 0.125ED…

Proviron @ 50mg ED…

and the drol started today…

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drol, mmm mmm good!

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Uh-huh! I cant fucking wait - it was you that got me all worked up for this shit too!!

Hows that other thing coming along? :wink:

Game, how long does the drol take to kick in, in your opinion?

(and yes, i AM a dab hand with a syringe…:D)

Brook

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the other thing is teetering back and forth between several other compounds right now but still leaning toward the original.

IMO id say i felt the drol in full force at the end of the first week. felt a little bloat after day 3 or so and strength would come on at the end of the first week and continue.

Had a slight feeling you may be a master of the jabs lol

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[quote]kayveeay wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
So the guy who’s been living in the steroids section for the past few months whoring out thousands of posts in record time is a recent recovering heroin junky(7 months clean! WOW), and former coke and amphetamine addict… A guy who runs cycles with boatloads of recs. And this is the new steroid guru. Lmao, again.

Un-fucking-real.

You’re a fucking cunt. And it’s been a while since I’ve attacked someone on here.

He’s given me shit loads of helpful advice, which you have done none of.

The fact that he has a record number of posts in a short period of time doesn’t mean SHIT. If anything, it means he has allocated more of his time to helping others. You notice how if you go to the AAS section sometimes it says “most recent post” Brook… all the way down? Find one bad peice of advice he’s given.[/quote]

I used to frequent this forum more often and lend advice, until it was taken over by you and the rest of the ‘newb flock’ who are annoying as shit. You and the rest of you faggots who’ve been at T-Nation for 2 months with 1,000+ posts and think you and your ilk are the greatest contributors to this forum/board ever. You maggots thrive on quantity, not quality.

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[quote] Brook wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
Game_over wrote:
now he does say in that post PAST cycles, so i tend to believe he is clean now as far as recs go.

Well id have to say i bet hes mean with a needle :wink: But i still stick to my verdict that even though he may have been addicted to some bad shit, that doesnt give me sufficiant reason to think that he has no clue about AAS.

i believe one could be knowledgeable about both categories (whether one should be or not is a different discussion) I will say that you are right in the fact that he did post at an alarming rate for awhile lol
Ok, well, would you take advice from a guy who was addicted/using heroin for many years? Just because he also may be knowledgeable somewhat about AAS doesn’t change the fact that he can’t kick hard drugs…

My point being would YOU take AAS advice from a multi-substance addict? I mean seriously, I already know the answer, I just want you to say it lol.

lol!

YOU dont need to take advice from anyone punchy…

Please dont assume to think you know jack shit about me, my life or my drug use because you read a 1 minute long post i made!

Ridiculous.

I am NOT going to explain myself to you pal, and as far as i can see - any of the people here who io give a fuck about what they think, know whats what. They know i use less drugs than most people who post here (do you drink? Do you smoke? Do pot?)
and they are educated enough to not slam someone just because of a past.

Shit, i have met many fucks like you in real life… it is really sad the amount of intolerance there is. Still, i may be an EX-junkie, but you are an arsehole. I quit junk, did you quit arse?

Brook[/quote]

You use less drugs than most people who post here? Are you serious? Yeah, I drink maybe once a month, and no I don’t smoke- cigarettes or pot. Wtf are you talking about? When did everyone here become addicted rec users?

The point is no one in their right mind willingly takes advice from a heroin addict on how to diet or cycle AAS properly. GET REAL. These guys can say whatever they want, I think that’s extremely poor judgment on their part. I wouldn’t listen to crack heads or meth addicts who just so also happen to lift and use steroids. I don’t think anyone here should either, but of course that’s up to them, just my opinion.

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[quote]judgeroybean wrote:
Steroids are illegal and they are drugs shit inner hulk your nothing more than the “pot” calling the kettle “black”.

Shit this man does help alot of people on aas use my self one.

He has done his home work for sure and you knock him down for getting clean a ljob and bettering himself!!!

You just lost a lot of respect from me bubba.

And joseph “HELL YEAH” i salute you for what your doing hang in there friend.[/quote]
I believe that often times, experience trumps what you’ve read. He may have memorized Anabolics 2007, but what the fuck does that matter when the regurgitated shit he’s spitting is coming from a cocaine addicted heroin junky who post whores more than 2k posts in 2 months?

Are you going to listen to an experienced bodybuilder with years of proper use or a guy who can’t kick heroin whose weight fluctuates between 150-200 depending on how often he’s been finding veins to shoot in? I can’t believe the people in this forum anymore, seriously- you guys are fucked. lol

And if you’re trying to compare steroids with amphetamines, cocaine, or heroin, you’re utterly ridiculous.

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You’re the one that has been posting nothing but attacks… I don’t see you giving out advice.

He may have a lot of posts, but all of them have merit and are helpful.

Yours, from what I have seen, are insulting and contribute nothing to intellectual discussion of AAS/BBing

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I really don’t care, half his posts are corny jokes and thread derailments. That’s why it’s called post whoring.

Here’s my advice- don’t take steroid/diet/training advice from a heroin addict.

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[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
I really don’t care, half his posts are corny jokes and thread derailments. That’s why it’s called post whoring.

Here’s my advice- don’t take steroid/diet/training advice from a heroin addict.[/quote]

so you dont see any difference between a heroin addict and a EX heroin addict? just curious. A lot of top level bodybuilders use rec drugs of various sorts, how do you explain that phenomena?