[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
Why were you using a pair of 3m knee wraps as wrist wraps? [/quote]
Some of Pegg’s gear whore must have rubbed off on her at some point.
andy- my shins ARE dead sexy. or just deathly pale. either works.
court- he’s doing an ok job dealing with me. i haven’t killed him or driven him to kill me, yet, so that works.
greeny- why thank you! now if it’ll just dowhat its sposed to…
main- oh dear you ARE drooling! i’ll take off my shirt and wipe off ur chin with that…
kimba- i see what you did there!
bg- you forget how tiny you are. I have 6 inches and 40lbs on you. those are big kid wrist wraps, instead of the child-sized ones you’re using. they have strength in them, they’re hand me downs.
[quote]CBear84 wrote:
pin from last night[/quote]
Glad to see I’m not the only one stuck training around commercial gym retards this week.
I only have to wrap mine around twice. You think that third wrap will add another 40 pounds to all my lifts? I’m all about whorin’ it up for bigger numbers.
I’m not sure if I should be offended or happy that you’re suggesting I weigh around 125.
Damn Bear, that is one a lovely ass. You also have quite slender ankles…that is also a very attractive quality. You make good wife?
Nice work Claire. And Pegg, thanks for the PSA, that did help me understand just exactly what is being instructed. And great editing skills. Conversation? What conversation?
Talk me out of spending a stupid amount of money for a Chanel nail polish. kthanxbai.
[quote]JPeggEFS wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
Bear-- Why were you using a pair of 3m knee wraps as wrist wraps? :P[/quote]
I figured you of all people would know that in multiply lifting, everyone does everything to excess. I once saw a kid who was about 450lbs come out rocking an inzer double denim shirt to bench 225! Gotta get after it. The strength is in the gear!
Jason[/quote]
Hahaha I noticed this too BG… but Jason’s explanation makes sense. Multiply gear whores… pfft. lol
BG & Jason - Thanks for the explanation. That makes sense. And yes, us single ply lifters wouldn’t use them cuz we have to walk out the bars on our own… le sigh…
stronghold- nope, lifting raw for my first meet unless im told otherwise. HA i say to you!
bg- i hadn’t pooped or brushed my hair yet so i was prolly around 180 when i said that.
masch- good wife… ha… i make good fiancee, i know that, done that twice. dunno about the marriage thing. it’d take someone that doesnt annoy me, sexes me whenever i want, that i respect, that im attracted to, and that comply with the whole, “say what you mean, mean what you say,” that I try to live by. so, it’s a mythical creature.
kimba- never tried chanel nail polish, but im sure it sucks herpes balls. go find a similar color in another brand that’s $30 less expensive. unless you have fakes, it’s gonna last for 4 days tops. (hope i caught you in time. you should really text me these things.)
court- yeah you keep wasting energy walkin out those squats. once you go mono, you hate everything else.
Kimba, I’m obsessed with China glaze right now. Its cheaper than OPI and I honestly like the shades better. You should check it and see if you find what you need!
That vid is super helpful for learning more than I understood about squat form… I can see the difference in you sitting back more as opposed to your earlier videos, and I’m excited to see where this goes. Those freak glutes are going places hard.
yeah, i am with everyone else on the ass - sheesh…maybe I need to add pizza roles to my diet!
owlie- freak glutes. i like it.
christina- as much as i’d like to thank the pizza rolls for my ass, i cant. the metabolism (thanks to 21 years of athletics) isn’t genetic, but that ass is definitely moms.
Question:
I have boxed squated and understand sitting back almost on your hamstrings and forcing or pushing out with your knees to explode up (practice, practice, practice). Now I have always wanted to know about the foam on the box.
Is the idea the same are you to sink into it or explode off it help a brotha understand a little more. Also how does it feel does it cause your glutes to relax when they sink into the foam?
Oh and on the camera angle…gigidy.
quick rant before work.
customer service sucks sometimes, because im in a business largely limited by law.
that being said, there is NO REASON to not acknowledge a patient.
one of my favorites is a single dad, with 2 daughters. (mom died or went crazy. same thing i guess) he and the girls have OH medicaid, which can be a pain in the ass sometimes. he’s always made the appropriate phone calls, gives us plenty of time to do stuff, and has never, ever gotten rude with us because of stuff not working. as a matter of fact, he’s REALLY pleasant. scary looking to most, though. short, stocky, bald, covered in tattoos.
i got up from doing some paperwork last night, with 2 other people i was working with at the front counter. i saw him and realized they’d been ignoring him.
so, i said, “hey there mr. XXX!!! how do you like the game of chicken they’re playing? yeah, chicken. they’re outwaiting each other to see who will come over here and help you. guess i lost, but i’ll call it lucky. what can i get for you tonight?”
now he took it well because he’s awesome like that. im completely ok with throwing my coworkers under the bus, because there is absolutely no excuse for that. it’s our JOB to wait on patients. if we dont have patients, none of the other shit matters. i sat in the back for 10 minutes doing that paperwork. i have no idea how many other people came to the counter, stood, and walked away. shit makes me irate.
now im going back for more. see u bitches at 8:15. or whenever shit is done.
[quote]four60 wrote:
Question:
I have boxed squated and understand sitting back almost on your hamstrings and forcing or pushing out with your knees to explode up (practice, practice, practice). Now I have always wanted to know about the foam on the box.
Is the idea the same are you to sink into it or explode off it help a brotha understand a little more. Also how does it feel does it cause your glutes to relax when they sink into the foam?
Oh and on the camera angle…gigidy.
[/quote]
As far as the foam goes for Claire…you can extrapolate from this if you want, but there are a few reasons. Some will transfer to you, others wont, but most of it is general technique work:
- Claire has never (as far as I know) box squatted consistently. If she has, its been wrong, as you can see she is all over the place in the video. She hasn’t done much, if any squatting without mirrors either. The foam gives her an idea of where her body is in space, and helps her feel it, versus seeing it.
This relates to both her depth, and the fact that she is now sitting back far enough. Also gets her to keep her head up and back during the lift, as she doesn’t have to look down, or have her head forward to see if she is down where she needs to be. Serves two purposes as far as that goes.
The proprioreception aslect is going to be huge for her, as she has, from what I know, been an ass to grass squatter, and used the rebound off of her calves to know when to turn the bar around. Now that she is competing in powerlifting, there is literally no need to squat that deep. She needs to have an idea when to turn the bar around.
As the saying goes, “Break parallel by a half inch, break it by 6 inches, its still past parallel” In this sport, extra depth is just pounds OFF of your total.
- Gives positive reinforcement that she is indeed sitting back far enough. I know that I mentioned it in the first one, bit feeling the squat is huge, as there are no mirrors in meets. She is now sitting WAY back, and if you watch closely, you can see on some reps that her shins end up past perpendicular to the floor.
This places HUGE stress on the hamstrings, which, if you have read the other posts she has made about them, are a weak point for her squat right now. Its also a bit of a safety measure as well. If she sits back too far, and her hamstrings let go, as they have before, it keeps her from falling onto a hard box with a bar on her back. Helps soften the impact on her spine, and keeps a 700 dollar squat bar off of the floor.
- teaches her to really relax her hips when she pauses on the box. This is done more simply on the foam than the box. really works on reversal strength and all of that stuff that Louie Simmons talks about. Watch her knees closely, and you can see them flex in a bit when she pauses, then flare out as she fires off of the box.
Its hard to see from the video, as the spot stands were in the way, but I could see it from where I was standing. Reinforces pushing out hard on the knees, which I dont think she has ever really worked on in the past either.
- The foam is a PAIN IN THE ASS to squat out of. With a hard box, you can train yourself to “flex” off of it. I got really good at this, to the point that I hit 930 off of the box in briefs, and only 900 in the meet with my suit on. You cant flex off of the foam at all.
It works hard to break your form too, as you can see in the video. Leaning and rocking like Lil John. Part of that is her trying to shift the weights to the quads, but the other part is that the foam is a complete bitch to get out of with any bar speed. Sit down on your couch, and try to stand up fast. You will see what I mean.
Like I said before, this is the first of many baby steps into getting her squat on the right path. If you notice, she comes up on her heels when she comes off of the box. She is trying to pull up off of the box as opposed to pushing out off of it. That is something we will fix down the road.
Same thing with her chest collapsing, and the rocking back and forth. Once her technique is spot on, she should be able to fire off of the foam/box and it will look identical in body position and bar path as the descent did. When she gets to this point, she is going to be ridiculously strong.
She is picking up on the stuff VERY fast. A lot faster than a lot of the guys I have worked with in the past. She is going to do very well with this if she stays consistent and decides to pursue it for a while.
As far as the camera angle, I stick to my story, but apparently Im the only one that believes it. hahahaha
Jason
[quote]JPeggEFS wrote:
As the saying goes, “Break parallel by a half inch, break it by 6 inches, its still past parallel” In this sport, extra depth is just pounds OFF of your total.
Jason[/quote]
Speaking from the position of perhaps squatting too deeply on occasion on the platform, I agree with this statement. However, it doesn’t look to me like CBear is even parallel in these box squats let alone breaking the plane. Maybe your federation is tres lenient about this?
Oh, the ass is covetable. No question about it.
And, Claire, you will love the platform. Like me, you have the intensity and hunger for it. No doubt you will excel.
[quote]JPeggEFS wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
Question:
I have boxed squated and understand sitting back almost on your hamstrings and forcing or pushing out with your knees to explode up (practice, practice, practice). Now I have always wanted to know about the foam on the box.
Is the idea the same are you to sink into it or explode off it help a brotha understand a little more. Also how does it feel does it cause your glutes to relax when they sink into the foam?
Oh and on the camera angle…gigidy.
[/quote]
As far as the foam goes for Claire…you can extrapolate from this if you want, but there are a few reasons. Some will transfer to you, others wont, but most of it is general technique work:
- Claire has never (as far as I know) box squatted consistently. If she has, its been wrong, as you can see she is all over the place in the video. She hasn’t done much, if any squatting without mirrors either. The foam gives her an idea of where her body is in space, and helps her feel it, versus seeing it.
This relates to both her depth, and the fact that she is now sitting back far enough. Also gets her to keep her head up and back during the lift, as she doesn’t have to look down, or have her head forward to see if she is down where she needs to be. Serves two purposes as far as that goes.
The proprioreception aslect is going to be huge for her, as she has, from what I know, been an ass to grass squatter, and used the rebound off of her calves to know when to turn the bar around. Now that she is competing in powerlifting, there is literally no need to squat that deep. She needs to have an idea when to turn the bar around.
As the saying goes, “Break parallel by a half inch, break it by 6 inches, its still past parallel” In this sport, extra depth is just pounds OFF of your total.
- Gives positive reinforcement that she is indeed sitting back far enough. I know that I mentioned it in the first one, bit feeling the squat is huge, as there are no mirrors in meets. She is now sitting WAY back, and if you watch closely, you can see on some reps that her shins end up past perpendicular to the floor.
This places HUGE stress on the hamstrings, which, if you have read the other posts she has made about them, are a weak point for her squat right now. Its also a bit of a safety measure as well. If she sits back too far, and her hamstrings let go, as they have before, it keeps her from falling onto a hard box with a bar on her back. Helps soften the impact on her spine, and keeps a 700 dollar squat bar off of the floor.
- teaches her to really relax her hips when she pauses on the box. This is done more simply on the foam than the box. really works on reversal strength and all of that stuff that Louie Simmons talks about. Watch her knees closely, and you can see them flex in a bit when she pauses, then flare out as she fires off of the box.
Its hard to see from the video, as the spot stands were in the way, but I could see it from where I was standing. Reinforces pushing out hard on the knees, which I dont think she has ever really worked on in the past either.
- The foam is a PAIN IN THE ASS to squat out of. With a hard box, you can train yourself to “flex” off of it. I got really good at this, to the point that I hit 930 off of the box in briefs, and only 900 in the meet with my suit on. You cant flex off of the foam at all.
It works hard to break your form too, as you can see in the video. Leaning and rocking like Lil John. Part of that is her trying to shift the weights to the quads, but the other part is that the foam is a complete bitch to get out of with any bar speed. Sit down on your couch, and try to stand up fast. You will see what I mean.
Like I said before, this is the first of many baby steps into getting her squat on the right path. If you notice, she comes up on her heels when she comes off of the box. She is trying to pull up off of the box as opposed to pushing out off of it. That is something we will fix down the road.
Same thing with her chest collapsing, and the rocking back and forth. Once her technique is spot on, she should be able to fire off of the foam/box and it will look identical in body position and bar path as the descent did. When she gets to this point, she is going to be ridiculously strong.
She is picking up on the stuff VERY fast. A lot faster than a lot of the guys I have worked with in the past. She is going to do very well with this if she stays consistent and decides to pursue it for a while.
As far as the camera angle, I stick to my story, but apparently Im the only one that believes it. hahahaha
Jason[/quote]
So, now I have to ask a question. Is the squat different if you are competing as opposed to just working out? Or is it just the lack of mirrors in competing that make you have to feel where you are as opposed to seeing it in a gym?
Usually, powerlifters squat deeper than the average gym-goer because they have to clearly break the parallel plane in order for it to be a legal lift. There are, of course, no mirrors on the platform. But I have never looked in the mirror to squat anyway. Brute, PMPM, and I all compete in the same federation (USAPL), and you’ll notice from vids that we all squat deep.
[quote]CBear84 wrote:
quick rant before work.
customer service sucks sometimes, because im in a business largely limited by law.
that being said, there is NO REASON to not acknowledge a patient.
one of my favorites is a single dad, with 2 daughters. (mom died or went crazy. same thing i guess) he and the girls have OH medicaid, which can be a pain in the ass sometimes.
he’s always made the appropriate phone calls, gives us plenty of time to do stuff, and has never, ever gotten rude with us because of stuff not working. as a matter of fact, he’s REALLY pleasant. scary looking to most, though. short, stocky, bald, covered in tattoos.
i got up from doing some paperwork last night, with 2 other people i was working with at the front counter. i saw him and realized they’d been ignoring him.
so, i said, “hey there mr. XXX!!! how do you like the game of chicken they’re playing? yeah, chicken. they’re outwaiting each other to see who will come over here and help you. guess i lost, but i’ll call it lucky. what can i get for you tonight?”
now he took it well because he’s awesome like that. im completely ok with throwing my coworkers under the bus, because there is absolutely no excuse for that. it’s our JOB to wait on patients.
if we dont have patients, none of the other shit matters. i sat in the back for 10 minutes doing that paperwork. i have no idea how many other people came to the counter, stood, and walked away. shit makes me irate.
now im going back for more. see u bitches at 8:15. or whenever shit is done. [/quote]
You think they ignored because of his appearance or simply because they didnt want to deal with any customers period?
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
[quote]JPeggEFS wrote:
As the saying goes, “Break parallel by a half inch, break it by 6 inches, its still past parallel” In this sport, extra depth is just pounds OFF of your total.
Jason[/quote]
Speaking from the position of perhaps squatting too deeply on occasion on the platform, I agree with this statement. However, it doesn’t look to me like CBear is even parallel in these box squats let alone breaking the plane. Maybe your federation is tres lenient about this?[/quote]
Video makes it hard to tell, but at the same time, its not “break it by 4 inches or its not past oparallel” like in the USAPL. Worst judging Ive ever seen is there. I dont know how you guys do it. I couldnt lift there.
Jason