I haven’t crashed at all yet and I am over a week into the induction phase. I have done the AD before though and I was on a relatively low carb diet before (100-200grams per day). Should I be nervous? Maybe it will come later this week but I thought it would come early since I was fairly low carbs already.
Hello everyone. Been on the AD since March 2009. My boss keeps telling me I am going to die when he sees what I eat. I have done a pretty good recomp since then and I feel great. So I went to the doctor and got my blood work done to verify if I am in fact going to die. I was thinking of posting pics of the paperwork here for your scrutiny. Anyone want to see the results?
[quote]plasticglock wrote:
Hello everyone. Been on the AD since March 2009. My boss keeps telling me I am going to die when he sees what I eat. I have done a pretty good recomp since then and I feel great. So I went to the doctor and got my blood work done to verify if I am in fact going to die. I was thinking of posting pics of the paperwork here for your scrutiny. Anyone want to see the results?[/quote]
I would like to see them. Put them up.
Wow, I am pathetically weak. Energy levels are fine, but my weights are dropping like crazy. Can’t wait til I am fully adapted.
Finished a 4 day carb orgy over Thanksgiving. Back on track now. Had to buy some olive oil today. To save money, I bought 1 liter of EVOO in a dark bottle for $5. I saw 2 liter of EVOO in a can for $20. I’ve heard the benefits (a lot of the discussion was in the first AD thread) of olive oil in the can but am leery of spending the extra bucks. I suppose I should do a taste test because I do ingest most of the olive oil on foods rather than “chasing shots”. Anybody else like to weigh in on EVOO in a can?
[quote]jsdool wrote:
Finished a 4 day carb orgy over Thanksgiving. Back on track now. Had to buy some olive oil today. To save money, I bought 1 liter of EVOO in a dark bottle for $5. I saw 2 liter of EVOO in a can for $20. I’ve heard the benefits (a lot of the discussion was in the first AD thread) of olive oil in the can but am leery of spending the extra bucks. I suppose I should do a taste test because I do ingest most of the olive oil on foods rather than “chasing shots”. Anybody else like to weigh in on EVOO in a can? [/quote]
The reason it’s in a can is to prevent it from oxidization to retain the delicate fats found in EVOO. That being said you can use the dark bottled variety if you keep it out of direct light and away from heat. Don’t cook with it either if you want to retain the heart-healthy benefits of the fat.
Long story short . . .you’ll be fine with the dark bottle but the can will always be a tad bit better.
Sasha
[quote]ajweins wrote:
I haven’t crashed at all yet and I am over a week into the induction phase. I have done the AD before though and I was on a relatively low carb diet before (100-200grams per day). Should I be nervous? Maybe it will come later this week but I thought it would come early since I was fairly low carbs already.[/quote]
Second time through is always easier . . . I didn’t crash at all after going ‘carb’ for a little.
All is good with the AD lifestyle!
Sasha
The doctor was pretty freaked out when I told her what my diet was. She got real concerned, and asked a ton of questions. She was pretty surprised when it came in like this. She said it’s pretty good, but she wants to see my LDL down at 100 or lower. She recommended eating less red meats and more lean meat like chicken breast. I told her I planned to do exactly that after christmas to trim down.
She said I was in pretty good shape blood wise, and it’s obvious that I exercise. I was kind of worried because I never do cardio, and I don’t eat my greens like I know I am supposed to. Now, I didn’t get blood work done before I started the diet, wish I had because I didn’t take care of myself. It surely is better now than when I started. What do you guys think?
lately I’ve been trying to put on lean mass by taking my fats and protein up quite a bit, and lifting HEAVY. As a result of taking my food intake higher my carbs can sometimes go 5 or 6 above 30. Dr. Di Pasquale says in his book that 30 grams of carbs is just a guidline, and in a few of his sample diets he goes well over 50. I was wondering if you guys agree with this or should stay below 30. Like i said I don’t always go over, most of the time I’m a little under, and when I do go over it’s at the most by 6 carbs.
[quote]plasticglock wrote:
The doctor was pretty freaked out when I told her what my diet was. She got real concerned, and asked a ton of questions. She was pretty surprised when it came in like this. She said it’s pretty good, but she wants to see my LDL down at 100 or lower. She recommended eating less red meats and more lean meat like chicken breast. I told her I planned to do exactly that after christmas to trim down.
She said I was in pretty good shape blood wise, and it’s obvious that I exercise. I was kind of worried because I never do cardio, and I don’t eat my greens like I know I am supposed to. Now, I didn’t get blood work done before I started the diet, wish I had because I didn’t take care of myself. It surely is better now than when I started. What do you guys think?[/quote]
I’d agree with your doc on the lipid profile so work on upping your EFAAs and fiber to help you in this regard. From PH balance standpoint I would also encourage you to really up your greens intake to manage the acidity of the diet as well as helping to compensate with supplementary vitamins. JuicePlus is an amazing product for that.
Overall it looks pretty good . . .did you get a hormone profile as well (free test, etc) . . . I can’t really read the doc as it’s quite small.
Sasha
[quote]broken4head wrote:
lately I’ve been trying to put on lean mass by taking my fats and protein up quite a bit, and lifting HEAVY. As a result of taking my food intake higher my carbs can sometimes go 5 or 6 above 30. Dr. Di Pasquale says in his book that 30 grams of carbs is just a guidline, and in a few of his sample diets he goes well over 50. I was wondering if you guys agree with this or should stay below 30. Like i said I don’t always go over, most of the time I’m a little under, and when I do go over it’s at the most by 6 carbs.[/quote]
You’re fine with this . . .just make sure that the carbohydrates you take in are indirect sources and spaced out through the day. Managing insulin release is important on this diet but a couple of extra grams from indirect sources is cool.
Sasha
[quote]plasticglock wrote:
The doctor was pretty freaked out when I told her what my diet was. She got real concerned, and asked a ton of questions. She was pretty surprised when it came in like this. She said it’s pretty good, but she wants to see my LDL down at 100 or lower. She recommended eating less red meats and more lean meat like chicken breast. I told her I planned to do exactly that after christmas to trim down.
She said I was in pretty good shape blood wise, and it’s obvious that I exercise. I was kind of worried because I never do cardio, and I don’t eat my greens like I know I am supposed to. Now, I didn’t get blood work done before I started the diet, wish I had because I didn’t take care of myself. It surely is better now than when I started. What do you guys think?[/quote]
I like seeing posted lab results. Didn’t notice anyone else doing that in the earlier AD threads. I get mine done free once per year around April. I used the April numbers as a starting point rather than getting new results. Of key note, were the following results with 2008 first followed by 2009:
- Triglycerides 57 mg/dL 57 mg/dL
- Cholesterol 206 mg/dL 235 mg/dL
- HDL 73 mg/dL 70 mg/dL
- LDL 122 mg/dL 145 mg/dL
I didn’t start taking fish oil (and eating more oats) until after the Apr 2009 results. It would be interesting to see any effect from that.
[quote]SashaG wrote:
plasticglock wrote:
The doctor was pretty freaked out when I told her what my diet was. She got real concerned, and asked a ton of questions. She was pretty surprised when it came in like this. She said it’s pretty good, but she wants to see my LDL down at 100 or lower. She recommended eating less red meats and more lean meat like chicken breast. I told her I planned to do exactly that after christmas to trim down.
She said I was in pretty good shape blood wise, and it’s obvious that I exercise. I was kind of worried because I never do cardio, and I don’t eat my greens like I know I am supposed to. Now, I didn’t get blood work done before I started the diet, wish I had because I didn’t take care of myself. It surely is better now than when I started. What do you guys think?
I’d agree with your doc on the lipid profile so work on upping your EFAAs and fiber to help you in this regard. From PH balance standpoint I would also encourage you to really up your greens intake to manage the acidity of the diet as well as helping to compensate with supplementary vitamins. JuicePlus is an amazing product for that.
Overall it looks pretty good . . .did you get a hormone profile as well (free test, etc) . . . I can’t really read the doc as it’s quite small.
Sasha
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Sorry its so small, it was huge when I scanned it in. I think it shrank when I uploaded it. I didn’t get the hormone profile. The doc said my insurance wouldn’t pay for it, and told me it would run $290.00. I will look into JuicePlus, although it sounds kinda carby. I am going to make the greens part of my diet, that should help me with fiber too. I am only getting efaa’s from 2 fish oil caps, 1 flax oil cap, and 4 extra large Eggland’s Best eggs a day. Sometimes I have some natty pb too. I guess I could do better in that respect too. Thanks for the help Sir!
@platicglock
As long as someone double clicks on your test result images, they “should” be able to read them. I use Green Vibrance for vegetable supplementation. I haven’t tried a fruit version yet. I use such supplements only when I do not get the real thing so the price ends up less than $40+ per month.
I have read several times in the threads about green veggies being “free” in some sense. I have been overtrained and have been off lifting for around 2 months and I am still going another month or so. My hunger is still what it was when training heavy(upwards around 4-5k per day and sometimes as high as 12k on carb ups). I am trying to curb hunger with the veggies however I am becoming concerned that I may be reaching the upper limit of the “free” green veggie idea. If I am hitting 2-3lbs of broccoli, green beans, and sometimes spinach a day, am I jeopardizing my chances of success?
Note that my goal right now is just to manage and decrease body fat so i can blast food when I return to training.
Has anyone experienced any skin problems (acne, dry skin, etc…) while on this diet? I have been, within the last few months it has been getting worse. I have cut out certain foods that I thought were the culprits for a period of time but have still not had any success. Not sure if it is just because of my age or eating a lot over maintenance, I got no idea. Any suggestions would be much appreciated
[quote]SashaG wrote:
broken4head wrote:
lately I’ve been trying to put on lean mass by taking my fats and protein up quite a bit, and lifting HEAVY. As a result of taking my food intake higher my carbs can sometimes go 5 or 6 above 30. Dr. Di Pasquale says in his book that 30 grams of carbs is just a guidline, and in a few of his sample diets he goes well over 50. I was wondering if you guys agree with this or should stay below 30. Like i said I don’t always go over, most of the time I’m a little under, and when I do go over it’s at the most by 6 carbs.
You’re fine with this . . .just make sure that the carbohydrates you take in are indirect sources and spaced out through the day. Managing insulin release is important on this diet but a couple of extra grams from indirect sources is cool.
What do you mean by “indirect sources”?
Sasha
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Hey guys,
Just an update and some feedback. Since getting down to 9%, I have increased my food intake(more protein and equal amount of fats) whilst increasing workload as well. Results thus far have been gain in muscle and further loss in fat…this is the idea behind the G-Flux Principle, which has been discussed by Berardi and Poliquin for some time.
Paul has mentioned this many times, once SHOULD gain muscle and lose fat at the same time…especially on this type of diet. You simply have to toy with the macros, overall intake AND right training for your elemental type to obtain ideal progress.
My recent experience of protein been to high, was more the fact that fats or energy nutrients were not high enough and hence my body switched to protein for fuel. So 2g/lb of protein may OK, but more dependant on the NEED relative to workload.
GJ
[quote]Gymjunkie wrote:
Hey guys,
Just an update and some feedback. Since getting down to 9%, I have increased my food intake(more protein and equal amount of fats) whilst increasing workload as well. Results thus far have been gain in muscle and further loss in fat…this is the idea behind the G-Flux Principle, which has been discussed by Berardi and Poliquin for some time.
Paul has mentioned this many times, once SHOULD gain muscle and lose fat at the same time…especially on this type of diet. You simply have to toy with the macros, overall intake AND right training for your elemental type to obtain ideal progress.
My recent experience of protein been to high, was more the fact that fats or energy nutrients were not high enough and hence my body switched to protein for fuel. So 2g/lb of protein may OK, but more dependant on the NEED relative to workload.
GJ[/quote]
What type of carbup did you do to get down to 9%? Cheat meal? 12 hour? 36?

