My Experience On the Anabolic Diet Part III

[quote]Pauli D wrote:
Sub 10 for the subscapular is good. It’s sort of the ‘standard’ you look for. Obviously the lower the better, but it tells me you’re getting your insulin under control. Congratulations! [/quote]

so now the calipers are accurate…:smiley:

Haha,

I get my skin fold done by a Biosignature Practitioner…Not by myself with plastic ones;)

GJ

Didn’t even question it.
If you are capable of taking AND reading your own subscap…well, Cirque du Soleil has an opening they would just LOVE to speak with you about.

:^)

Hey Pauli,

My post was directed to Pumped who had a go at whoever mentioned him taking his fold are not accurate…

GJ

Pumped, Have you thought about adding carbs to the week? Not alot, just enough to be present in your system. Your body turns over your glycogen stores every 24hrs. WIthout carbs your body goes into gluconeogenesis where it starts to break down muscle to use as glucose, but the glucose made from proteins (ketones) are harsh on the kidneys. You could essentially be seeing an increase in water retention from your kidney function slowing down, not fat gain.

Your bodies fat burning process cannot work continuously without glucose/ketones present: pyruvate is a necesity as it is needed at the end of the CA Cycle (Krebs) for oxeloacetate(sp)to keep the cycle going. Would you rather get that you get your glucose from your diet or the breakdown of your tissue.

It is seen there there are a lot of kidney complications coming from extremely low carb diets over and extended period of time. At the beginning of the thread there was talk about light headedness caused by low blood pressure. The kidneys help regulate HR, not saying thats the reason, just saying it could be related.

[quote]MHRhabdo wrote:
Pumped, Have you thought about adding carbs to the week? Not alot, just enough to be present in your system. Your body turns over your glycogen stores every 24hrs. WIthout carbs your body goes into gluconeogenesis where it starts to break down muscle to use as glucose, but the glucose made from proteins (ketones) are harsh on the kidneys. You could essentially be seeing an increase in water retention from your kidney function slowing down, not fat gain.

Your bodies fat burning process cannot work continuously without glucose/ketones present: pyruvate is a necesity as it is needed at the end of the CA Cycle (Krebs) for oxeloacetate(sp)to keep the cycle going. Would you rather get that you get your glucose from your diet or the breakdown of your tissue.[/quote]

Hence the carb up meal/sitting/reload once per week

GJ

[quote]MHRhabdo wrote:
It is seen there there are a lot of kidney complications coming from extremely low carb diets over and extended period of time. At the beginning of the thread there was talk about light headedness caused by low blood pressure. The kidneys help regulate HR, not saying thats the reason, just saying it could be related.[/quote]

Can you give us a link to this study please?

Aaron

[quote]Gymjunkie wrote:
Hey Pauli,

My post was directed to Pumped who had a go at whoever mentioned him taking his fold are not accurate…

GJ[/quote]

Oh, I realize that…wasn’t being combative. I could tell you had some experience w/ BioSig by the information in your posts.
The AD works very, very well with BioSig -for many, many people.

You seem to be getting a lot out of it, GJ.
Good for you!

[quote]Gymjunkie wrote:
Hey Pauli,

My post was directed to Pumped who had a go at whoever mentioned him taking his fold are not accurate…

GJ[/quote]

lol that was a joke but yea

[quote]MHRhabdo wrote:
Pumped, Have you thought about adding carbs to the week? Not alot, just enough to be present in your system. Your body turns over your glycogen stores every 24hrs. WIthout carbs your body goes into gluconeogenesis where it starts to break down muscle to use as glucose, but the glucose made from proteins (ketones) are harsh on the kidneys. You could essentially be seeing an increase in water retention from your kidney function slowing down, not fat gain.

Your bodies fat burning process cannot work continuously without glucose/ketones present: pyruvate is a necesity as it is needed at the end of the CA Cycle (Krebs) for oxeloacetate(sp)to keep the cycle going. Would you rather get that you get your glucose from your diet or the breakdown of your tissue.[/quote]

Well thats basically the exact opposite point of the AD lol. I would consider a 2nd carb up meal mid week but as of now I’m sticking with Pauli’s suggestion of the 1 meal per week carb up.

Yes, I all I have learned and practiced with Biosig has been great. Bit spent on supps that did not work, but this is a learning process, so it didn’t bother me. I am finally on track with most of fixming my issues and progressing better than ever before.

I am doing the coarse early next year when Poliquin comes down to Australia. I am also doing PCIP level 1 and 2. Looking forward to it all!

GJ

[quote]pumped340 wrote:
Gymjunkie wrote:
Hey Pauli,

My post was directed to Pumped who had a go at whoever mentioned him taking his fold are not accurate…

GJ

lol that was a joke but yea

MHRhabdo wrote:
Pumped, Have you thought about adding carbs to the week? Not alot, just enough to be present in your system. Your body turns over your glycogen stores every 24hrs. WIthout carbs your body goes into gluconeogenesis where it starts to break down muscle to use as glucose, but the glucose made from proteins (ketones) are harsh on the kidneys. You could essentially be seeing an increase in water retention from your kidney function slowing down, not fat gain.

Your bodies fat burning process cannot work continuously without glucose/ketones present: pyruvate is a necesity as it is needed at the end of the CA Cycle (Krebs) for oxeloacetate(sp)to keep the cycle going. Would you rather get that you get your glucose from your diet or the breakdown of your tissue.

Well thats basically the exact opposite point of the AD lol. I would consider a 2nd carb up meal mid week but as of now I’m sticking with Pauli’s suggestion of the 1 meal per week carb up. [/quote]

It does not say to have 0 carbs throughout the week (at least not in the books I read…Anabolic Diet and Anabolic Solutions). They say to keep them at a low number (30g) to prevent your body from going into ketosis. If I am wrong I apologize, but to me 0 carbs on weekdays is somewhat worthless with how the human body operates.

Hey MHR,

It is almost impossible to get in zero carbs. I don’t believe Pumped, nor I, are on the original AD, which states to count fibrous carbs. I know I eat as many greens as possible, LOTS of nuts, which have plenty of carbs, so I kinda have to be careful there, haha…either way, not incl greens I am under 30g.

One should only add/increase carbs as their insulin sensitivity improves…Pauli gave me a reminder above, as I was THINKING about adding some pre-workout, but would prefer keeping it low and improving my insulin sensitivity in the long term and this will ensure that I utilize the carbs far more efficiently (for gaining muscle!!). I know a few guys that have made the mistake of getting lean, and adding carbs back in too soon and too much off…You can gain muscle on low carbs easily provided intake is in check, if needed…again geared toward fixing a resistance problem.

GJ

Paul,

I have a question regarding Dr. Pasquale’s Anabolic Solution book. I read that he said to stay away from MCT’s for fat consumption. Early in my bodybuilding career I followed the nutrition philosophy of John Parrillo who is a major supporter of consuming a lot of MCT’s (Cap Tri is his supplement name). Coconut oil is high in MCT’s and I often use it for frying eggs, etc. Do you know why Dr. Pasquale suggests steering clear of MCT’s?

Thanks,
Mark

I think it all depends on what you’re using, Mark.
Hydrogenated coconut oil for instance, raises LDL and ruins your blood lipid profile.
Non-hydrogenated coconut oil has the opposite effect. It’s those damn hydrogen atoms that screw up our blood lipids and I believe that’s what Di Pasquale was cautioning against.

Poliquin recommends extra virgin coconut oil in moderation -which of course is non-hydrogenated.
I would be curious to know what Dr Di thinks about extra virgin coconut oil as well. He and Poliquin usually see eye to eye on most matters.

~Paul

[quote]Gymjunkie wrote:
Hey MHR,

It is almost impossible to get in zero carbs. I don’t believe Pumped, nor I, are on the original AD, which states to count fibrous carbs. I know I eat as many greens as possible, LOTS of nuts, which have plenty of carbs, so I kinda have to be careful there, haha…either way, not incl greens I am under 30g.

One should only add/increase carbs as their insulin sensitivity improves…Pauli gave me a reminder above, as I was THINKING about adding some pre-workout, but would prefer keeping it low and improving my insulin sensitivity in the long term and this will ensure that I utilize the carbs far more efficiently (for gaining muscle!!). I know a few guys that have made the mistake of getting lean, and adding carbs back in too soon and too much off…You can gain muscle on low carbs easily provided intake is in check, if needed…again geared toward fixing a resistance problem.

GJ[/quote]

My misinterpretation, I took it as carbs were being avoided at all cost. Made me wonder if I missed something somewhere.

[quote]Pauli D wrote:
I think it all depends on what you’re using, Mark.
Hydrogenated coconut oil for instance, raises LDL and ruins your blood lipid profile.
Non-hydrogenated coconut oil has the opposite effect. It’s those damn hydrogen atoms that screw up our blood lipids and I believe that’s what Di Pasquale was cautioning against.

Poliquin recommends extra virgin coconut oil in moderation -which of course is non-hydrogenated.
I would be curious to know what Dr Di thinks about extra virgin coconut oil as well. He and Poliquin usually see eye to eye on most matters.

~Paul [/quote]

That would make sense, especially if it was hydrogenated oil. That being said, the coconut oil I use is non-hydrogenated, organic, extra virgin.

Then I say you’re good to go, Mark.
When is your competition?

Hey guys,
I am starting my winter bulk and didn’t get my B.F % as low as I would have liked before I started. I’m at 8% and want to know how much is too much when gaining B.F if your bulking. Doctor Di says stop at 10% but it wont take long to get there.Keeping in mind I don’t have any competitions or anything I just want to make sure I’m down to lower than 10% next May. How much is to much B.f gained per week so I can adjust accordingly?

Yo man,

You can gain lean mass WITHOUT any gain in BF(even losing), especially on this TYPE of diet. The original AD, which dictates 2 full days of carbs is what may lead to more fat gain than you would like(personal experience).

I would either:

  1. Increase intake from protein and fats and keep ONE big cheat meal in per week, IF you don’t handle carbs well generally(hard to know without knowing your genetic ability to handle carbs).

  2. Increase intake from carbs around workout time ONLY, whilst keeping the rest of your diet the same…so you could just add some PRE WORKOUT to begin with. As you go and are not gaining any/too much fat, you can bump this up.

  3. If the original AD is what you are on, with 2 full carb days, and you obtained decent progress, simply increase intake evenly…but not TOO MUCH TOO SOON.

Back to your original question, and I am almost sure Pauli would agree…you CAN gain lean mass whilst keeping bf in check my ensuring insulin management, which is basically opting for one of the above points. I would NOT go back over 10% ever again!

Pauli may chime in to correct me where/if I am wrong…still learning myself, haha

GJ