DH, holy smoke the EDT looks to be a freakin nightmare! I hope I didn’t offend you and this is pay back, ha, ha! Seriously I’m going to try it and have been researching it quite a bit. Any pointers would be appreciated. So far I have a general layout from the web, understand you pick a weight but not sure of my starting point yet, then do it of for 15 minutes with 5-8 reps with a super set secondary movement with short rest intervals. I know there’s more to it then that though. I just started the 6th week (last week) of GVT and it’s time to move on I’m getting really spent and had a hard time with the first workout (bench/pulldowns for my 10x10). I was thinking of doing 4-6 weeks of DC and then doing the EDT. I don’t have time nor the desire to do a standard 5 day split working each body part.
I look forward to your feedback.
Later
[quote]DH wrote:
Good post. You’ve learned alot and I like what you have to say.
Its all about what works for you, while adhering to the principles.
Glad to have you aboard.
BTW, Im not a fan of GVT for most. I would highly recommend EDT instead. Very effective, very fun, and very joint friendly. Good for muscle and fat loss.
Best,
DH
Braunbeck wrote:
Thought I’d chime in, I started the diet last year and did it for 13 weeks went from 350’s to 330’s. I lost a good amount of weight up front and then slowly added some on a few pounds at a time. Then fell off the wagon, so I started it again this past February and didn’t have the initial results I had from the previous time. I did manage to drop about 10 pounds or so over 7 weeks.
Then I decide to consult a professional, I paid for some help. He started me off on carb cycling, then a no carb (well low, low carb) routine. I had great success up front on the carb cycling and had good energy. Then I started to slow and switched to no carb phase and was doing well for a good while also. I dropped just over 40 pounds in around 4 months, was doing a DC program with cardio. I was able to continue getting stronger and loose fat with all the diets combined and also increase my work capacity (my rest intervals were short between sets). The only thing that derailed me was the intense tendon pain I had in my forearms and just getting sick of chicken, eggs and nuts. I felt like I was going to shit eggs and grow feathers at one point. So I took 3 weeks off everything (training, cardio & diet). Then started back on AD, it’s been 3 weeks now that I’ve been back. I wanted to start with AD again so I can taste real food, but the kicker is while using the diets provide by the professional I actually learned something.
Here is what I took away, I don’t sit down and eat a whole 12-14 oz steak, with salad and other crap now. I portion my food out and shoot for 60 grams of protein a serving and shoot for 5-6 meals a day. I rotate protein sources, I use beef, chicken, fish, omega 3 eggs, bacon, ON ProComplex. I still use nuts, although cashews have had a bad reaction as of late with bloating and gas. I use EVOO, fish oil, primrose and I still have cheese although I limit it to 4-6 oz a day. I eat broccoli and salad as well as take in fiber supplement.
As I stated though I limit my portion size to 60 grams, so I may have 4 oz steak, with some cheese, a few pieces of bacon and that’s it.
I also changed my workout up and started the GVT, which by the way is a complete train wreck for some old fat guy that has been lifting heavy and lower reps his whole life (powerlifting). But I want to pack on some muscle get a good change and loose more fat. I also stopped using machines for cardio and go to a local high school and use the track, bleachers and field. I find propelling my own weight feels like more work and actually running and working towards sprinting again is motivating.
I found that limiting my refeed/carb up has helped also. Even eating 80-90% clean I still was gaining to much in a weekend. I now start at 12/noon on Saturday and end just after breakfast on Sunday, but I don’t go balls out with it. I start with rice, work in some tatos or pasta and that’s about it. As I progress I’m going to limit it even further and may add in a mid week jump since Wednesday’s leg day is sucking and is an ass kicker, but I will limit it to post and one other meal after that and it will most likely consist of old fashion oats in a shake post workout and more oats or brown rice after that with a total some where from 50 to 100 grams.
I guess I wanted to post this after reading 5 pages of it so far, I think that people get to much freedom with the diet and it leads to gaining fat and weight. I know that’s what happened to me, I was adding in 2 tablespoon of heavy cream, which in my opinion is a waste of a fat source. Also I see what everyone is eating, but don’t see what they are supplementing.
I’m far from being in great shape and a prefect roll model for health and advise, but I thought I’d share how things are going for me and what I’ve taken away so far. Currently I’m 311 down from a beginning weight of 353 (and probably higher prior to that meeting with the scale) and shooting for 300 or just under in the next 3-4 weeks and most likely I’ll be modifying my diet again in the next few weeks back to a cleaner protein source, nuts, eggs and salad.
In the lifting world it’s said everything works, but nothing works forever! I’m sure Louie at WSB made reference to this and I’ve carried it over to diet now. The info I took away from the assistance with dieting has been great. I’m on my own now by choice, I want to see what I can do by myself, but will always owe my success to the paid consultations!
Look forward to reading more post and would love to hear some feedback from DH on my thinking and layout.
Later
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