Hey, relax guys. We’re all brothers here… Pretorian, why don’t you just wait until N-17E and T-17E come out, and stack one of them with Androsol? Or if you have easy access to it, stack it with Winny? You might need to look into clomid and propecia if you’re gonna be on Testosterone for 8 weeks, but it would make one hell of a cycle.
-Doug
I know Bill Roberts thinks Trenbolene(Fina) is a great choice to stack with anadrol. I don’t know why Brock thinks it is not. Brock please elaborate? It would also be great to here from Bill again.
Thanks, Bull, for the kind statement! I’ve been kind of pressed for time lately and let myself
get away from spending the time on the forum I’d like to. Did free up a lot of time, I have
to admit! 
Indeed I hadn’t been aware when asked the
question, “what oral steroid would be most
effiective to stack with Anadrol,” and
answering that 75 mg each of Anadrol and
oxandrolone per day was pretty effective
and moreso than 150 mg/day of either, that
the plan was to go for 8 weeks. I agree with
Brock that such a program would be pushing
it in terms of liver toxicity.
So, how to reduce the toxicity?
Well, first thing is getting past this
orals-only thing. If you want a steroid that
binds well to the androgen receptor your
best bet is to take an injectable! Primo
is great although you have to take a lot
and doing so is expensive; Deca is effective
although you may have progestagenic issues
and may have to limit your dose to 400 mg/week
or even less due to that reason; TA is
great but not commercially available. Testosterone will work too if you use enough,
but you do have estrogen issues (antiestrogens are available) and DHT issues (Proscar is available.)
For orals, if you want something that binds
well to the androgen receptor, so far as I
know you’re limited to oxandrolone and probably
methyltestosterone. I wouldn’t recommend
the methyltestosterone/Anadrol stack, so that
left oxandrolone/Anadrol.
As a means of answering the specific question
given to me.<>
Personally, I use Nandrosol as my Class II
steroid now, and it has the advantage of
no 17-alkylation. For Class I, I prefer
the injectable route for the reasons given
above.
it seems as if a lot of have different opinions. i think you misunderstood the intention of my last post Pretorian. i never said i was an expert but just from reading your post, i could tell you didn’t take 1 hour to your homework. i am not an expert at this game and i don’t claim to be. i base my opinions off scientific, theoretical and anecdotal evidence. Brock and Bill are both “the man” but as you might notice, they have differing opinions. i take what they say literally and assess every piece of advice they give. just because i think they are “the man” doesn’t mean i have to agree with “everything” they say. eg. Deca with Anadrol
i was unaware that Brock recommends Deca with anadrol. from what i've read and heard is that both have progestagenic effects and don't complement each other very well. i always thought a50 was good with primo and fina but now Brock disagrees with the fina.
Pretorian, its very hard to believe that Bill would suggest that cycle to you. I can't see him saying to take that much and then just assume you know only to take it for like 2 weeks otherwise your liver will explode. also, i never said don't take winny with a50, i just said if it were me, i would avoid combining two oral 17aa's. but hey, i might be conservative.
Lastly, i apologize if i hurt your feelings. boo hoo. the purpose of my post was to tell you, Pretorian, and maybe other uninformed readers, to spend time researching and reading stuff before you ask a question. i think Brock agrees with me here.
Hey guys, thanks so much to everybody who responded constructively. Bill, I especially appreciate it. Just so you guys know, Bill emailed me directly and helped me out for free. So here’s my cycle:
Weeks 1-8
1 Anadrol 50 per day,
300 mgs injectable Winstrol on Day 1,
100 mgs injectable Winstrol every other day ,
Weeks 9-12
Androsol, morning only,
Clomid, 50mgs per day
sounds like a good cycle Pretorian. good luck. remember to eat tons of food.