MRI: L4-5 Disc Herniation

I do not do spinal stretching! But I stretch my quads, hip flexors, chest, calfs… Thanks for the list of exercises. It looks like I am at the middle of your list (problems with one leg bridge on one side) so lots of work to be done.
I do not do any extensions. I check my form vey closly (had a good teacher) when I do glute exercises. I think I will wait till my glutes are stronger, my posture better and then incorporate some lower back endurance training.

Thanks for your time!

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

I know if one case where a scalpel blade snapped off, mid operation and since they couldn’t ‘find it’, the patient had to be sewn up again.

Upon xray, it was revealed that the blade had come to rest, lodged firmly between 2 vertebrae, with the ‘sharp end’ pointing at his abdominal aorta.

Now, he has to walk around with the blade still in, because no-one will take responsibility for the risk potential of re-operating to remove the blade!

Bushy[/quote]

That just scared the shit out of me. Imagine the constant terror you must feel, knowing you’re walking around with a blade lodged in your spine. Every time I’d bend I’d be afraid to become paralyzed.

I’d imagine the surgeon to rather take the risk of re-operating and fixing it than getting sued into oblivion though…

2 more questions Bushidobadboy if you micht :stuck_out_tongue:

  1. What are your achievements in stability training? I am looking for some inpiring goals, you see…
  2. What do you think of Reverse Hypers?

In stability traing there should be some elite standard similar to 3xbodyweight squat and I wonder what would that be…

Thanks, I think I can do a perfect transition plank. But I don’t have that much endurance as I could have. And I have at least few weeks till I can do perfect two point box…

Bushy,

Thanks for all that you’ve written in this thread. The advice and information you’ve written here has been most educating and interesting.

I have a very vague and probably unanswerable question without an actual assessment, but I’d be very interested in your opinion anyway.

I hurt my back whilst squatting two days ago. I have had since then a sharp shooting pain on the on the lower far left side on my back. At first I thought it was only muscular as I didn’t think disc pain would be that far to the left. I couldn’t stand upright for the first day as whenever I tried to I felt a sharp painful pulling sensation causing me to hunch over to relieve it. I can now stand straighter, but still have pain when sitting or standing in one position for long.

My confusion is over whether it is a vertabra injury or just muscular. I assumed that vertabra pain would be centralised whereas my pain is far to the left. There is also a quite big lump right where the pain is on the left side. I have been reading all over the internet trying to find out, but have come across lots of conflicting information. I know, of course, that the pain can be referred to other parts of the body. I just assumed that there would also be pain on the spinal column itself.

Obviously I should to go to the GP, but it’s likely that I will just get told to rest and take NSAIDS. An NHS GP is not going to order me any MRIs for a good few weeks I would imagine.

Thanks for any help you may give.

Actually, I am being retarded asking for a net diagnosis from such a vague description. I don’t know what I was thinking. I will go to the doctor tomorrow and insist on an MRI.

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

Have you noticed a loss in ankle proprioception (stand on one leg, eyes closed, time it) or a loss in apparent bloodflow to the area (cold skin or loss of hair there)? Are the ankles swollen at all?
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BBB - you mentioned cold skin/loss of hair, which are symptoms I have noticed. What would be the cause of that?

I’ve got a large L5-S1 Disc herniation caused from what I believe is bad baseball pitching mechanics, but I also have the symptoms you mentioned above.

Thanks

T_Mark

[quote]andrewe123 wrote:
Actually, I am being retarded asking for a net diagnosis from such a vague description. I don’t know what I was thinking. I will go to the doctor tomorrow and insist on an MRI. [/quote]
Frankly I would not be surprised if the doctor won’t order an MRI. MRIs have limited usefulness even for major spinal injuries like herniations, but the VAST majority of back injuries/pain are muscular sprains. Given how common muscle-based back injuries are, it would be a ridiculous expense and burden to a health-care system to order MRIs for every tweaked back.

I have had 4 disc injuries, 2 serious with many months of pain/disability, 2 I didn’t notice any symptoms from. As far as I know, it is very rare to suddenly injure a disc with no warning symptoms whatsoever. In most cases, certainly in mine, like the OP in this thread I had nagging pain, especially with certain movements and loading, for YEARS before the final disabling blowout. For months before the blowout, I had significant pain and had gone to doctor (sports medicine at a major university medical school) 4 times. A lot of good that did, huh? By contrast, muscle sprain tends to be sudden onset.

Now even if you did have a spinal injury, say a herniation, my opinion is that MRI is still mostly useless for most people. I’ve examined the studies comparing surgery with conservative therapy, and I chose conservative therapy. The best results for surgery happen when the surgery follows the injury as immediately as possible. In real life for most people, this HARDLY EVER HAPPENS.

I do not at all discourage you from seeing a doctor. However, from what you described, it sounds like a muscle sprain to me, maybe the QL. It doesn’t sound like a spinal injury at all. You should IMMEDIATELY (before seeing a doctor), apply RIIC – rest, ice, ibuprofen, compression. Apply an ice pack under a compression wrap, like an ACE bandage or neoprene back belt or so for 30 minutes. Remove and refreeze the ice pack. Keep the compression wrap on. Ice several times a day for several days. Take ibuprofen, either 800 mg every 12 hours, or 400 mg every 6 hours, like clockwork. (Do not take the IB if you have an ulcer or take any other medications that contraindicate it.) I use the IB for several days, maybe a week or two depending on severity.

@andersons hi I’m new here and was wondering could you possibly forward me the l5-s1 herniation exercises you spoke of in the earlier thread?I would be greatly appreciative as I’m another dude 2k down in treatments. Thanks a lot

Just an FYI, this thread is five years old.