Mr. Olympia-Are You Kidding Me?

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[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
But you’re not a bodybuilder nor could you be. Don’t dismiss what they do just because the trophy comes from a stage show. These people bust their ASS to get where they are. So you are way off base with your accusation.[/quote]

I’m glad that you know that he COULDN’T be a bodybuilder. It’s good to see that you aren’t making baseless assumptions.

And how does busting one’s ass equal athletic? People bust their ass to get a good SAT score too. Perhaps every kid with a pocket protector is an athlete. I busted my ass working for UPS one summer, so I guess that made me an athlete too.

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[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
Chad wrote:
There is no athletism in bodybuilding. None. Absolutely none.

Curlers have talent. Bodybuilder’s don’t. Given the right genetics, training, drugs and diet anyone could be a bodybuilder.

Curlers and all athletes have skill and talent.

But you’re not a bodybuilder nor could you be. Don’t dismiss what they do just because the trophy comes from a stage show. These people bust their ASS to get where they are. So you are way off base with your accusation.[/quote]

Female vocalists also bust their ass to get where they are. Additionally, both bodybuilders and female vocalists are know for sucking dick to make ends meet. So by your wonderful line of thinking, anyone who has busted their ass to get where they are is athletic.

I will go take a large shit from this mornings of steel cut oats and Grow! mix. This will most likely truly bust my ass. Therefore, I am the worlds greatest athlete.

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[quote]Chad wrote:
Female vocalists also bust their ass to get where they are. Additionally, both bodybuilders and female vocalists are know for sucking dick to make ends meet. So by your wonderful line of thinking, anyone who has busted their ass to get where they are is athletic.

I will go take a large shit from this mornings of steel cut oats and Grow! mix. This will most likely truly bust my ass. Therefore, I am the worlds greatest athlete.[/quote]

No you are the world’s largest douche nozzle for comparing the things you did to weight training. Point is it takes athleticism to create what goes on stage. No, the competition isn’t sporty or athletic, but getting there sure as hell is. I don’t understand how you can not think bodybuilding isn’t an athletic sport. It’s not like they implant everything and just fill up on synthol in the needed places and then prance around. You don’t have to like it, just acknowledge it.

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[quote]Chad wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
Chad wrote:
There is no athletism in bodybuilding. None. Absolutely none.

Curlers have talent. Bodybuilder’s don’t. Given the right genetics, training, drugs and diet anyone could be a bodybuilder.

Curlers and all athletes have skill and talent.

But you’re not a bodybuilder nor could you be. Don’t dismiss what they do just because the trophy comes from a stage show. These people bust their ASS to get where they are. So you are way off base with your accusation.

Female vocalists also bust their ass to get where they are. Additionally, both bodybuilders and female vocalists are know for sucking dick to make ends meet. So by your wonderful line of thinking, anyone who has busted their ass to get where they are is athletic.

I will go take a large shit from this mornings of steel cut oats and Grow! mix. This will most likely truly bust my ass. Therefore, I am the worlds greatest athlete.[/quote]

Hey, dipshit…you’ve got 12 posts. Six of which are pertaining to this absolutely absurd argument. I think you’re just trying to start a fight.

You are a Trolly Trollerson who should be ignored.

Fuck off.

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[quote]harris447 wrote:
Chad wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
Chad wrote:
There is no athletism in bodybuilding. None. Absolutely none.

Curlers have talent. Bodybuilder’s don’t. Given the right genetics, training, drugs and diet anyone could be a bodybuilder.

Curlers and all athletes have skill and talent.

But you’re not a bodybuilder nor could you be. Don’t dismiss what they do just because the trophy comes from a stage show. These people bust their ASS to get where they are. So you are way off base with your accusation.

Female vocalists also bust their ass to get where they are. Additionally, both bodybuilders and female vocalists are know for sucking dick to make ends meet. So by your wonderful line of thinking, anyone who has busted their ass to get where they are is athletic.

I will go take a large shit from this mornings of steel cut oats and Grow! mix. This will most likely truly bust my ass. Therefore, I am the worlds greatest athlete.

Hey, dipshit…you’ve got 12 posts. Six of which are pertaining to this absolutely absurd argument. I think you’re just trying to start a fight.

You are a Trolly Trollerson who should be ignored.

Fuck off.
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Thank you!!

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[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
No, the competition isn’t sporty or athletic, but getting there sure as hell is. [/quote]

What’s athletic about performing a smith machine bench press? I’ve seen tons of bodybuilders come in and do 90% of their work on machines. I don’t consider that athletic. Hard work? Most of the time yes, very hard work, but the ability to lift weights does not make you athletic. 80 year old people do the same exercises with the same level of skill.

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[quote]RickJames wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
No, the competition isn’t sporty or athletic, but getting there sure as hell is.

What’s athletic about performing a smith machine bench press? I’ve seen tons of bodybuilders come in and do 90% of their work on machines. I don’t consider that athletic. Hard work? Most of the time yes, very hard work, but the ability to lift weights does not make you athletic. 80 year old people do the same exercises with the same level of skill. [/quote]

Look, don’t base everything about bodybuilding on what you see in your gym. Yes, you will see stupid shit going on by people who should know better, but what can I say, people as a group are stupid and lazy. What you should base your views on are the people that train hard and smart, and keep their nutrition where it should be. Truthfully, the real BB’s I see and have trained with ARE athletes. They have drive and dedication that most others lack. They train to beat themselves, to prove to themselves that they can outdo their own expectations. These aren’t the half-assed juciers that you are obviously used to seeing. When I think bodybuilding, I think of sacrifice, gut determination, and pain management.

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[quote]Chad wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
Chad wrote:
There is no athletism in bodybuilding. None. Absolutely none.

Curlers have talent. Bodybuilder’s don’t. Given the right genetics, training, drugs and diet anyone could be a bodybuilder.

Curlers and all athletes have skill and talent.

But you’re not a bodybuilder nor could you be. Don’t dismiss what they do just because the trophy comes from a stage show. These people bust their ASS to get where they are. So you are way off base with your accusation.

Female vocalists also bust their ass to get where they are. Additionally, both bodybuilders and female vocalists are know for sucking dick to make ends meet. So by your wonderful line of thinking, anyone who has busted their ass to get where they are is athletic.

I will go take a large shit from this mornings of steel cut oats and Grow! mix. This will most likely truly bust my ass. Therefore, I am the worlds greatest athlete.[/quote]

Haha. If anyone responds to this dumbass, its your own fault.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Chad wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
Chad wrote:
Female vocalists also bust their ass to get where they are. Additionally, both bodybuilders and female vocalists are know for sucking dick to make ends meet. So by your wonderful line of thinking, anyone who has busted their ass to get where they are is athletic.

I will go take a large shit from this mornings of steel cut oats and Grow! mix. This will most likely truly bust my ass. Therefore, I am the worlds greatest athlete.

Haha. If anyone responds to this dumbass, its your own fault. [/quote]

You’re right. I should have known better.

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[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
Look, don’t base everything about bodybuilding on what you see in your gym. [/quote]

Seeing that I lift in a purely powerlifting gym, that’s not what I was doing. I was going off my experience of competitive bodybuilders at the state and national levels. In fact, one of the best bodybuilders I knew would just come in, knock out a couple of exercises on something like the pec deck, and then go home.

[quote]What you should base your views on are the people that train hard and smart, and keep their nutrition where it should be. Truthfully, the real BB’s I see and have trained with ARE athletes. They have drive and dedication that most others lack. They train to beat themselves, to prove to themselves that they can outdo their own expectations. These aren’t the half-assed juciers that you are obviously used to seeing. When I think bodybuilding, I think of sacrifice, gut determination, and pain management.
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The things you mention are true for many bodybuilders…but it doesn’t relate to athletic ability at all.

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[quote]RickJames wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
Look, don’t base everything about bodybuilding on what you see in your gym.

Seeing that I lift in a purely powerlifting gym, that’s not what I was doing. I was going off my experience of competitive bodybuilders at the state and national levels. In fact, one of the best bodybuilders I knew would just come in, knock out a couple of exercises on something like the pec deck, and then go home.

What you should base your views on are the people that train hard and smart, and keep their nutrition where it should be. Truthfully, the real BB’s I see and have trained with ARE athletes. They have drive and dedication that most others lack. They train to beat themselves, to prove to themselves that they can outdo their own expectations. These aren’t the half-assed juciers that you are obviously used to seeing. When I think bodybuilding, I think of sacrifice, gut determination, and pain management.

The things you mention are true for many bodybuilders…but it doesn’t relate to athletic ability at all. [/quote]

You don’t know what the bodybuilder is doing at other times at the gym, or outside the gym to get into competition shape.

If he has great genetics for bodybuilding and truly doesn’t work hard at it, then the same can be said for other athletes in other sports.

Where’s the athleticism in NASCAR or golf?

An 80 year old amateur can go out on a golf course, but can’t play at the skill level of Tiger Woods.

Just like anyone can lift with bodybuilding movements and eat their food, but they aren’t able to get their bodies very muscular with very low body fat levels. That takes more skill and dedication than I’m able to commit to right now.

Do you think a person with very little athletic ability would be able to be successful in bodybuilding, natural or pro?

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[quote]Chad wrote:
Curlers are athletes. Bodybuilders are not. Bodybuilders do participate in activities that help athletes but are far from athletes. [/quote]

Aren’t all bodybuilders curlers?

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I was probably watching something worthwhile like U.F.C. or The Andy Griffith Show. The Mr.Olympia has the appeal of a hemmeroid as far as I’m concerned.

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[quote]harris447 wrote:
Chad wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
Chad wrote:
There is no athletism in bodybuilding. None. Absolutely none.

Curlers have talent. Bodybuilder’s don’t. Given the right genetics, training, drugs and diet anyone could be a bodybuilder.

Curlers and all athletes have skill and talent.

But you’re not a bodybuilder nor could you be. Don’t dismiss what they do just because the trophy comes from a stage show. These people bust their ASS to get where they are. So you are way off base with your accusation.

Female vocalists also bust their ass to get where they are. Additionally, both bodybuilders and female vocalists are know for sucking dick to make ends meet. So by your wonderful line of thinking, anyone who has busted their ass to get where they are is athletic.

I will go take a large shit from this mornings of steel cut oats and Grow! mix. This will most likely truly bust my ass. Therefore, I am the worlds greatest athlete.

Hey, dipshit…you’ve got 12 posts. Six of which are pertaining to this absolutely absurd argument. I think you’re just trying to start a fight.

You are a Trolly Trollerson who should be ignored.

Fuck off.
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Apparently someone can’t have an intellecutal argument without having a HY00GE post count. I’m sorry. I’ll get better at teh internet and post whore more.

But seriously, bodybuilding is not an athletic endeavor. In fact, I’m likely to also say that powerlifting is also not. To poorly quote a smart man, “An athlete can be a powerlifter but a powerlifter can not be an athlete.”

The fact that I am stronger than the vast majority of athletes does not mean I am athletic. I am slightly good at one aspect of athletic performance but getting up on the platform and taking a 6 bill squat does not require any of the talent that making jump shot does.

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[quote]Viking69 wrote:
jacross wrote:

I saw a video of this fat guy going for a PR on the bench. He got the bar down fine (for a second), then all of a sudden he went from fat to very very thin. It was hilarious, then extremely disturbing, then hilarious, then disturbing, then hilarious (with a slight tinge of curiosity as to whether he was dead). It’s like the bar went right through him. The bastard committed seppuku on the bench press.

Here is ur “fat guy”

Hooray for bench shirts!

http://media.putfile.com/BenchPress25

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That was soo stupid looking would someone please take the suits out of powerlifting please!!!

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[quote]RickJames wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
No, the competition isn’t sporty or athletic, but getting there sure as hell is.

What’s athletic about performing a smith machine bench press? I’ve seen tons of bodybuilders come in and do 90% of their work on machines. I don’t consider that athletic. Hard work? Most of the time yes, very hard work, but the ability to lift weights does not make you athletic. 80 year old people do the same exercises with the same level of skill. [/quote]

since when do u need skill to be athletic. is lance armstrong skillful pedaling a bike.

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[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
RickJames wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
No, the competition isn’t sporty or athletic, but getting there sure as hell is.

What’s athletic about performing a smith machine bench press? I’ve seen tons of bodybuilders come in and do 90% of their work on machines. I don’t consider that athletic. Hard work? Most of the time yes, very hard work, but the ability to lift weights does not make you athletic. 80 year old people do the same exercises with the same level of skill.

Look, don’t base everything about bodybuilding on what you see in your gym. Yes, you will see stupid shit going on by people who should know better, but what can I say, people as a group are stupid and lazy. What you should base your views on are the people that train hard and smart, and keep their nutrition where it should be. Truthfully, the real BB’s I see and have trained with ARE athletes. They have drive and dedication that most others lack. They train to beat themselves, to prove to themselves that they can outdo their own expectations. These aren’t the half-assed juciers that you are obviously used to seeing. When I think bodybuilding, I think of sacrifice, gut determination, and pain management.
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My OPINION is that bodybuilding is not athletic. A bench press, squat, curl, deadlift, or tricep pushdown is not athletic. Some of these movements benefit athletes, but they do not make an athlete. A 4.4 40, a 38 inch vertical, a sweet jump shot, a 1000 yard rusher, 27 points a game, and a 40-40 hitter makes an athlete. Just one simple man’s opinion.

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[quote]
BIGRAGOO wrote:
since when do u need skill to be athletic. is lance armstrong skillful pedaling a bike.[/quote]

I think this is a bad point. I guess it only takes enough skill to peddle a bike for days through hills, mountains, and valleys. I’m sure that anyone could easily hop on a bike and do what Lance Armstrong has done for as many times as he has.

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[quote]Chad wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Chad wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
Chad wrote:
There is no athletism in bodybuilding. None. Absolutely none.

Curlers have talent. Bodybuilder’s don’t. Given the right genetics, training, drugs and diet anyone could be a bodybuilder.

Curlers and all athletes have skill and talent.

But you’re not a bodybuilder nor could you be. Don’t dismiss what they do just because the trophy comes from a stage show. These people bust their ASS to get where they are. So you are way off base with your accusation.

Female vocalists also bust their ass to get where they are. Additionally, both bodybuilders and female vocalists are know for sucking dick to make ends meet. So by your wonderful line of thinking, anyone who has busted their ass to get where they are is athletic.

I will go take a large shit from this mornings of steel cut oats and Grow! mix. This will most likely truly bust my ass. Therefore, I am the worlds greatest athlete.

Hey, dipshit…you’ve got 12 posts. Six of which are pertaining to this absolutely absurd argument. I think you’re just trying to start a fight.

You are a Trolly Trollerson who should be ignored.

Fuck off.

Apparently someone can’t have an intellecutal argument without having a HY00GE post count. I’m sorry. I’ll get better at teh internet and post whore more.

But seriously, bodybuilding is not an athletic endeavor. In fact, I’m likely to also say that powerlifting is also not. To poorly quote a smart man, “An athlete can be a powerlifter but a powerlifter can not be an athlete.”

The fact that I am stronger than the vast majority of athletes does not mean I am athletic. I am slightly good at one aspect of athletic performance but getting up on the platform and taking a 6 bill squat does not require any of the talent that making jump shot does. [/quote]

Chad,

What is your definition of an athlete?

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[quote]celibrate2047 wrote:

BIGRAGOO wrote:
since when do u need skill to be athletic. is lance armstrong skillful pedaling a bike.

I think this is a bad point. I guess it only takes enough skill to peddle a bike for days through hills, mountains, and valleys. I’m sure that anyone could easily hop on a bike and do what Lance Armstrong has done for as many times as he has.

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Oh boy…I’m really sorry…but…You guys must be on glue to think that anyone can easily do what Lance Armstrong does, and Lance can not be rated as an top athlete…which IMHO he should be…and he should be on top of the list as well.

Lance Armstrong might be rated a mediocre atlete on your side of the pond, but is a phenomenon here in Europe…and deserves nothing less then that!!

…There is nobody that can even walk in his shadow and I doubt there ever will be…he is the Pele of bike racing!

Win the tour…beat cancer and win the Tour again??..and again…kiddin’ me?? This guy is one in a million!..