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[quote]Spock81 wrote:
Do I even want a guy that I need to sorta play mind games with in order to get him to boink me? Or do I want a guy that just outright wants to boink me cause he thinks powerlifting chicks are hot and like giant booty’s. HmmM. Second option seems far less stressful.

Sexual desire should be about nothing other than liking a person/wanting to do a person. Complicated shit iS COMPLICATED. I hate complicated.
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Sexual desire IS about liking a person/wanting to do a person. However, if they don’t want to do you and you want to do them you either give up or you can manipulate you way into them liking you. If you think that is "without scruples ", so what? Sometimes it takes a helpful nudge in the right direction. You never know how much he may actually like you until you put him into a situation where he has to experience you (provided that you aren’t going to smother him).

[quote]MaximusE wrote:

Have you ever watched “The Game of Thrones”? Tyrion Lannister was captured and tried for a crime he did not commit. He asked for a trial by combat. When a man volunteers to fight the champion of Vale, who was suited up with a shield and plate armor, the man who was defending Tyrion did every dirty trick in the book and killed the knight of Vale. When the match was over the queen said, “You did not fight honorable” to which the nameless man said, “No, but he did”.

Second, she tried the upfront thing and got shot down. Granted, she did it a bit hastily, however, the situation can still be salvaged. You think I’m telling her to be a bitch? I’m telling her to do what it takes to get what she wants. The quickest way to an early grave is to be an honorable man in un-honorable times.

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K now I think I’m definitely right about what you were saying. She’s not in a battle to the death where she needs to pull every dirty trick to get back to her family/survive. She’s just trying to get banged. If she doesn’t, there will be other guys. I’d rather not play games, be a decent person, and have integrity, and not get to bang some chick, than play stupid games, act like a dick, and sleep with her, “winning.” This is true about all things in life.

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So the fuck what if she plays with his emotions? Is he not playing with hers? What if this leads to the man realizing how special she actually is and they start dating? She said awhile back that she had never dated before. If the outcome justifies the means then who cares?

You people seem to classify it as “being bitchy” or I’m persuading her to be “bitchy”. My whole point of writing about that was to say there is no such thing as being “bitchy”. Just being a winner or a loser.[/quote]

Now that’s just called being an asshole.

“I’d rather not play games, be a decent person, and have integrity, and not get to bang some chick, than play stupid games, act like a dick, and sleep with her, “winning.” This is true about all things in life.”

You’re either a virgin or have never had to compete with other men for a girl you wanted. Scratch that. You’ve probably never had to compete to earn anything. Watch the whole documentary I post below.

“Now that’s just called being an asshole.”

Spoken like a loser.

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If you think Arnold Schwarzenegger, or anyone for that matter, became successful from “integrity” and “being a decent person” than you’re either incredibly naive or stupid. Nothing wrong with being an ass hole and going out and trying to get what you want.

Fair enough, though. My advice is pretty hard core and it isn’t for everyone.

@ Spock - I’m out of here and best of luck to you. Contrary to what these people will tell you, “honor” isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be. Don’t let anyone make you feel guilty for trying to go out and get what you want because when other people suck they want you to suck just as bad as they do. Mediocrity loves company. The Jonty clearly said to everybody, “My job sucks and I hate it”, and when I tell you to go out and get what you want what do they say? They say “NO, Don’t do that! That’s ‘bitchy’ or ‘not honorable’” meanwhile they’re washing dishes for minimum wage. Obviously Jonty probably doesn’t wash dishes and he probably has a future, but I’m sure as soon as he get’s a better job he’ll start saying “Yeah, you should go get that boy no matter what!” - Fuck everyone here. Go do what you have to do.

People who suck tell you it’s okay to suck (“better luck next time!” “you did your best!”). People who are successful tell you to do what ever you have to do to get what you want and be successful.

[quote]MaximusE wrote:
“I’d rather not play games, be a decent person, and have integrity, and not get to bang some chick, than play stupid games, act like a dick, and sleep with her, “winning.” This is true about all things in life.”

You’re either a virgin or have never had to compete with other men for a girl you wanted. Scratch that. You’ve probably never had to compete to earn anything. Watch the whole documentary I post below.

“Now that’s just called being an asshole.”

Spoken like a loser.

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LOL actually I’d say I’m doing quite well, I have what most would call a very good career, and I do just fine with the ladies… Of course I’ve had to compete to earn these things, but I’ve done them while still being able to look myself in the mirror because I didn’t lie, cheat, and step on other people to get them. However, these aren’t the things that I define as making me successful in life. The friendships and relationships I’ve built with people through being a decent person are what makes my life a success.

You, I notice by looking at your log, are hoping to start college wrestling next year. I assume that means you are still quite young. I hope you grow up a bit and realize there’s more to being a winner or loser than how many girls you bang and how much money you make. If not, and if you want to be an asshole, more power to ya. But don’t go telling good people like Spock that they should also be assholes.

I find it funny that being a person that gets what they want is now considered being an ass hole hahaha. Back in the Neanderthal days it was considered “surviving” or “being an Alpha Male”. Simpler times indeed.

Fair enough, Gmoore. You obviously aren’t stupid and you actually seem like the kind of person I would actually put my faith in. My views on life come from a world of hurt and learning experiences. I admire your views on friendship and love, but it’s not for me. You think maturity will lead me to a different mindset, but maturity brought me here and it brought me here at a young age. You’re right though, I should have simmered down the post a bit (not that I ever would - life is to short to tiptoe around peoples feelings).

By the way - I’ve read your blog too. Congrats on benching the 335.

Edit: And that’s what happens when you try to multi-task while writing a post, you get post-ninjaed . . . twice haha.

Maximus, I remember back in the day (like a page ago) we were all talkin’ 'bout animated movies and stuff . . . man times have changed.

I’m over here laughing because I don’t think I realized who I was talking to. You’re one of those “All’s fair in love and war” types, right? And you treat life like it’s war, like it’s battle. Also figures you’re trying to be a collegiate wrestler (took a peek at the log you started). Which would inevitably lead you to the Brands brothers and that particular program in general as icons of what it takes and what it means to be successful.

Y’know what? I wrestled at university for a few years (up in Canada so it’s not quite the same level as the US, but still). I competed against people like you. I trained with people like you. And you know what? They were assholes. Some of them were very good wrestlers, some weren’t. Some of them I associated with, some I didn’t. I’m probably more of an asshole now than I was before my time in wrestling. Given all that I think I can see where you’re coming from.

But we’re not talking about wrestling. We’re not talking about war. We’re talking about Spock trying to get laid. Yes there are times when you should do whatever it takes to be successful, where compromising some of the morals and beliefs you may have held can turn out to be the right course of action. What we’re all saying is that this isn’t one of those times and Spock, given all that she’s posted here, doesn’t really seem like the type of person to pull that off successfully, especially if all she’s looking to do is get laid.

Yeah, I’m working at a job right now that I hate and soon as I find another one I’m out of there. I’m just not in the habit of being unemployed, so I’ll wait to quit until I find another job. It’s a lot easier to find the right job when you’re not worrying about paying the bills at the same time. But I actually agree with you that if you want something you need to go out and get it. The world isn’t handed to you on a silver platter. That doesn’t mean you have to be an asshole to be successful, especially when we’re talking about the opposite sex and there are so many people out there that you don’t have to compromise yourself to be with, if only you would do what it takes to find them.

Last point. All this ranting you’re doing about the culture of losing? I think you misinterpreted me. The only positive you get out of losing is if you use it as a learning experience to make yourself better. You don’t say to someone “oh, but you did your best, better luck next time!” You say to them “you did your best and you should be proud of that effort, but it wasn’t enough, now we’re going to look at what happened, why you lost, and we’re going to make your best better so that you can come back and win next time.” You lose a wrestling match, you don’t say “oh, well fuck, that guy is just so much stronger/faster/more technical than I am.” You find the holes in your game and you fix them, or your find the holes in his game and you exploit them next time. Yes you should always strive to win, but losing is only a failure if you don’t use it to improve yourself.

[quote]MaximusE wrote:
I find it funny that being a person that gets what they want is now considered being an ass hole hahaha. Back in the Neanderthal days it was considered “surviving” or “being an Alpha Male”. Simpler times indeed.

Fair enough, Gmoore. You obviously aren’t stupid and you actually seem like the kind of person I would actually put my faith in. My views on life come from a world of hurt and learning experiences. I admire your views on friendship and love, but it’s not for me. You think maturity will lead me to a different mindset, but maturity brought me here and it brought me here at a young age. You’re right though, I should have simmered down the post a bit (not that I ever would - life is to short to tiptoe around peoples feelings).

By the way - I’ve read your blog too. Congrats on benching the 335.[/quote]

Well that ended better than I expected haha understandable. And thanks, but 365’s coming (fairly) soon.

Whose log is this again? I’d feel bad if Spock didn’t just say she wanted this one filled up.

Mighty post, Jonty. I openly welcome the other side of the argument that you gave. You’re right - I’m an all or nothing type of guy too. There isn’t much room for weakness in my books and I hate to see it in others. I’d feel amiss if I didn’t throw my 0.02c in there and I apologize for using you as an example. I had no malicious intention by it I assure you. Just an example.

P.S. - Always respect a wrestler no matter where they did it. Canada or the states.

Edit: I don’t even think we really disagree. There is just friction on the means to the end that I discussed. Fair is fair though - my way or the high way isn’t the case here. If she doesn’t want to seduce him…okay then.

@Gmoore - I imagine you’re what I’d look like if I wasn’t a fat ass xD. 365? Beast.

I just realized I have a whole team of people rooting for me to get laid, Lol!!

I don’t know if I should be thrilled, or think it’s kinda sad. HAHA

I know someday I’ll be able to give ya’ll high fives in this here locker room of a log I’ve created.

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I just realized I have a whole team of people rooting for me to get laid, Lol!!

I don’t know if I should be thrilled, or think it’s kinda sad. HAHA

I know someday I’ll be able to give ya’ll high fives in this here locker room of a log I’ve created. [/quote]

Hahahaha, Unfortunately I think this was more about the rutting behavior men go through when our authority is challenged. I feel as if I should have been a bit less preachy coming into your blog…all is well that ends well though.

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[quote]zenontheterrible wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:

[quote]zenontheterrible wrote:
A bench PR, a video game PR, AAAAAND you saw batman, sounds like one hell of a week! [/quote]

What a wonderfully positive way to sum up my week, thanks.!

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Now that i’ve seen the new batman movie i know what you mean about being disappointed its over! ARRRRG it was so good my life feels positively dull by comparison! hahah. :wink:

all kidding aside though it sounds like you need a training partner, rather than a coach, or maybe you fill find/meet one at the powerlifting meet you are going to? maybe they will invite you to some awesome underground westside esq gym in whereyourfrom? ok that last one probably won’t happen! keep loggin i enjoy reading em. [/quote]

I agree! I think I am going to go see it in IMAX so I can re experience it in a whole new way!! I bought a poster and put it beside my computer so I can stare and sigh…

A training partner would be fucking awesome. I remember one time i payed for a month membership for my friend to try to show him the ropes and convince him to get into powerlifting. I figured once he tired it he would fall in love. DID NOT HAPPEN.

FOREVER ALONE

I am from Edmonton BTW. WHere abouts in BC are you?? BANFF?!!![/quote]

haha banff thats funny :slight_smile: love it. It should be in BC, seeing as its in the mountains and alberta is all about being flat. I’m in Merritt right now, after august my contract ends and… i dont know where I will be :slight_smile:

i often have the same issues with trying to turn people into my training partners. usually they only want to work out when they “feel like it” which ends up being about once a month haha. as a distraction to being forever alone i point you to this insanely funny website: http://theoatmeal.com/

[quote]MaximusE wrote:

  • Fuck everyone here. [/quote]

This was all I understood from the walls of text. Spock, Your mission, should you choose to accept it…

Also, powerlifting female booty’s are so. much. win.

Carry on.

You bang this dude yet?

[quote]MaximusE wrote:
Mighty post, Jonty. I openly welcome the other side of the argument that you gave. You’re right - I’m an all or nothing type of guy too. There isn’t much room for weakness in my books and I hate to see it in others. I’d feel amiss if I didn’t throw my 0.02c in there and I apologize for using you as an example. I had no malicious intention by it I assure you. Just an example.

P.S. - Always respect a wrestler no matter where they did it. Canada or the states.

Edit: I don’t even think we really disagree. There is just friction on the means to the end that I discussed. Fair is fair though - my way or the high way isn’t the case here. If she doesn’t want to seduce him…okay then.

@Gmoore - I imagine you’re what I’d look like if I wasn’t a fat ass xD. 365? Beast.[/quote]

You don’t need to apologize for using me as an example. I can handle a little criticism. Besides, behind all this talk, I have a bad habit of letting myself get lazy far too often. Sometimes you need a kick in the ass, and sometimes the thing you need to hear most is the hardest of all to hear. No hard feelings on this end about any of it, though I suggest we let this log get back to being about Spock haha.

PS There was something I was going to add about wrestling but it escapes me at the moment; probably better served posting it in your log anyways, whatever it was.

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I just realized I have a whole team of people rooting for me to get laid, Lol!!

I don’t know if I should be thrilled, or think it’s kinda sad. HAHA

I know someday I’ll be able to give ya’ll high fives in this here locker room of a log I’ve created. [/quote]

Rooting for you?? Ha!

At this point I’d almost be willing to split the distance and meet you halfway. Of course, we’d have to go out to dinner so I could see your purported eating skills for myself.

[quote]TheJonty wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I just realized I have a whole team of people rooting for me to get laid, Lol!!

I don’t know if I should be thrilled, or think it’s kinda sad. HAHA

I know someday I’ll be able to give ya’ll high fives in this here locker room of a log I’ve created. [/quote]

Rooting for you?? Ha!

At this point I’d almost be willing to split the distance and meet you halfway. Of course, we’d have to go out to dinner so I could see your purported eating skills for myself.[/quote]

Yeah Cause edmonton Is SOOOO far aways from anything unless you live in medicine hat or WAY down south its not that bad

K Must add lifting to this page !!

Bench

95 x 5
115 x 5
125 x 3
130 x 1
135 x 1
135 x 1 Long pause for both my singles
130 x 2 paused doubles
125 x 2 paused

NO BENCH PR’S TODAY sad face
I dunno, strength wasn’t really there today, but I figure if I just keep doing my 135, 140 will come eventually. I still get terrified benching 135 even though I’ve not missed it once. Clearly I can bench it, but I refuse to actually put the big boy plates on, haha. Before it was like 35’s plus two 5’s on each side. Today i was brave and put 35 and a 10.
EVENTUALLY I’ll just do the damn 45’s.
This is a huge psychological thing for me. It’s like I am in total disbelief that I finally made it to this weight. :confused:

Notes: MUST WORK HARDER STOP SLACKING!!!

I keep telling myself I am going to work harder, but then I leave every workout feeling like I shoulda worked harder, heh.

DB row 45lbs
3 x 10

Rest pause DB tri thingie x 5 sets
Other DB tri thingie
Um face pulls 2 x 25
cable station tri stuff
straight legged sit ups 1 x 50

SO Ya, kinda lame-o workout. Coulda been worse I suppose.

I remember something that frankj or whatever his user name is once said. Your body doesn’t know if it’s 130 pounds, or 140 pounds. It just knows struggle. Not a direct quote, but it was something along those lines.
135 x 1 felt like my max today so that’s what I did. YUh

Justifying.

I AM SO ANNOYING.

Gym boy news since it’s clearly such a thrilling topic LOl!:
He came over and sat on the bench beside me and talked to me for like long time. Too much eye contact. I kept feeling like my face wanted to twitch or something. I was trying very hard to keep everything still. LAHAHAH. I wasn’t even listening to what he was saying. I was just thinking OMG my eye brows want to flinch, this is so awkward. Make him go away, GO AWAY GO AWAY, K NOD yerr head, smile, fake chuckle. End conversation< ENND.
THen he watched me bench and I told him this was the most stressful thing ever. I wanted 125 x 3 paused but after the first one he was like “EAsy!!” As in like It was easy not, WOAH easy does it there HAHA
Anyway, that encouragement totally fucked me up so I only got 2 reps. Lolzz
I told him my friends on T-Nation were giving me boy advice and that I was supposed to act non-chalant and bitchy HAhAHA.

What a good idea, hey?! N E WAYYYYYYYYY

I better go make some shepards pie. What a pain in the ass chore that is, BUT SOoOOO worth it!!

Peace out homes

OHH
Life news:

N/A

[quote]MaximusE wrote:
I find it funny that being a person that gets what they want is now considered being an ass hole hahaha. Back in the Neanderthal days it was considered “surviving” or “being an Alpha Male”. Simpler times indeed.
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This is false. This was the type of guy that was eaten.

@ Jonty - Of course.

When you remember feel free to tell me. Right now is not a good time for me to be ignoring advice xD.

@ Spock - Nice benching. If you want to break the fear barrier then you should just bench 135 over and over and over. Face your fears. If you’re scared of the dark you sleep in the dark. The worst thing a lifter can get is a mental fear of the weights. It will hinder your progress.

Also, to be fair I was the only one who was telling you to be ineffectual and try and get your way with him. Everyone else on here thought that was a bad idea and vehemently disagreed with my methods. So really it’s just “My friend on T-Nation told me to be non-chalant and bitchy”. I’d like to take this time to say…We’re friends!!! :slight_smile:

@ spar4tee - Maybe some, but clearly not all of them otherwise we wouldn’t be on T-Nation talking about it.

^^ Of course we’re friends!! I have very few real life friends so ya’ll is all I gotz, heh.

K SO YES my manic is back up and runnin’ full speed. Honestly, I have so much energy I don’t know what to do with it.

I AM NOT ASAHMED.

Yesterday I went for a 20-25 min joggy hilly stairsy run thing in the afternoon cause of my too much energy issue and today I went back to the gym for a second workout.

I WAS LIKE FUCK YOU JENn. Boys are bein’ distractin’ and it’s making my workouts less focused. THAT is why I feel like I am not working hard enough, cause I AIN"T!

K so benching round 2, Lol (please don’t judge me)

95 x 5
115 x 5
125 x 3
130 x 3
130 x 3
130 x 3
135 x 1
125 x 3 all paused

Other ones were just first rep paused.

Felt wAYY better/wayy stronger/wayy more focused. It’s like I just re did what I had intended to do this AM.

I dunno maybe sometimes I’ll go to the gym in the afternoon or something. I just love being there. Why am I getting so defensive???

NG pull ups 3 x 3

K cool, ha.

For anyone who is not good with too much energy AVOID CBL at all costs. IT’s da manic maker! MANIC MAKER.

BYE For reals this time!