I think greg just closed this thread.
[quote]lemonman456 wrote:
BG are you sure that you know the meaning of “strawman”? Here is a link to help you out: Straw man - Wikipedia
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That’s not a strawman. You have to live, eat and breathe strawman to be able to call yourself a strawman. If you’ve never debated, you’ve only gone 85% of the way.
You realize you never get PMs about becoming a strawman, don’t you? People ask BG, not you.
You’re just a stickman.
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
I agree with x tbh.
Every medical professional has a specific forte, a mouth Dr is no less qualified than a cardiologist or neurologist etc. It’s just a different part of the body.[/quote]
You might want to double check that. Certain dental schools will allow entrance without a BA, and then the program is 2-3 years. A cardiologist gets a BA, then goes to 4 years of medical school, then 3 years of residency, then a couple years of specialty training. A dentist is [hopefully] proficient in dentistry, but is not a doctor.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
Oxford English Dictionary:
Bodybuilder
Noun
- A person who strengthens and enlarges the muscles of their body though strenuous exercise.
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Thats great. Let me go scrape up a few thousand bucks and publish my own dictionary. By that definitipn football players powerlifters strongmen are all bodybuilders.
Useless post is useless[/quote]
Yes Bonez on its own that post maybe wasn’t much help but explains the publics misinterpretation of bodybuilding.
This definition is responsible for the general publics misconception of bodybuilding. If Joe average sees a jacked up guy swaggering down the street in a tight t-shirt they will likely assume he is a bodybuilder because it is apparent he does weights. An easy mistake for the uninitiated to make IMO. People in ‘the know’ obviously have a much more sophisticated understanding of weight lifting related endeavors, although a bulked up ‘off season’ bodybuilder may well look like, and be reasonably mistaken for a powerlifter.
If a writer writes for ten years before he becomes published does he only become a writer the day he gets his book published and starts earning royalties? I would say he becomes a ‘professional’ writer that day, if he only had articles published then maybe he becomes an ‘accomplished’ writer that day.
When a guy enters his first bodybuilding competition does he only become a bodybuilder that day? No, he becomes a competitive bodybuilder that day, if he places or wins something then he is certainly accomplished to a degree at least (anyone who steps on stage or into a ring or pursues their endeavors with a passion wins my respect) and when/if he starts making his living out of it he then becomes a professional bodybuilder.
So yes, I think you can be a bodybuilder without competing.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
I agree with x tbh.
Every medical professional has a specific forte, a mouth Dr is no less qualified than a cardiologist or neurologist etc. It’s just a different part of the body.[/quote]
You might want to double check that. Certain dental schools will allow entrance without a BA, and then the program is 2-3 years. A cardiologist gets a BA, then goes to 4 years of medical school, then 3 years of residency, then a couple years of specialty training. A dentist is [hopefully] proficient in dentistry, but is not a doctor.[/quote]
This is simply not true.
There are three dental schools in Texas, one in San Antonio, one in Houston, and one in Dallas. NONE of them have a program less than 4 years with Dallas often extending their program to five years.
Further, I did my residency in the military. The only thing stopping a dentist trained in America from putting MD after their name is the residency program…which is why that is what would be required for me to operate solely as an oral surgeon.
What dental school only has a 2-3 year program?
Oh, look at that…UT dental school has their classes listed:
http://dental.uthscsa.edu/educprograms/DDS_curriculum.php
Gee, and four whole years.
Why are people lying?
So far, it’s the same people stopping everyone else from getting deeper information.
let’s get dr.tim watley in here, sounds like a bunch of anti-dentite bastards to neelydan
…these seinfeld jokes aren’t doin’ it for anyone eh?
I feel like a child whose parents are getting divorced, can every just please stop fighting?!
No one is bothering to understand what the other person says, and when they do, they add in something else. Why can’t we all just leave it to seethe deep inside of us, allowing the hate to consume us personally and not have it spill out on the internet?
Think of the children!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
I agree with x tbh.
Every medical professional has a specific forte, a mouth Dr is no less qualified than a cardiologist or neurologist etc. It’s just a different part of the body.[/quote]
You might want to double check that. Certain dental schools will allow entrance without a BA, and then the program is 2-3 years. A cardiologist gets a BA, then goes to 4 years of medical school, then 3 years of residency, then a couple years of specialty training. A dentist is [hopefully] proficient in dentistry, but is not a doctor.[/quote]
This is simply not true.
There are three dental schools in Texas, one in San Antonio, one in Houston, and one in Dallas. NONE of them have a program less than 4 years with Dallas often extending their program to five years.
Further, I did my residency in the military. The only thing stopping a dentist trained in America from putting MD after their name is the residency program…which is why that is what would be required for me to operate solely as an oral surgeon.
What dental school only has a 2-3 year program?[/quote]
Several around the country, and several will accept students with less than a BA. You’re in Houston, so you should know who Don Speck is. He’s who every dentist should aspire to be [at least from a monetary stance]. I’ve known his step-sons for awhile, and 2 of them have gone on to be dentists, one of which got his degree from a major school in Arizona. He is now a dentist, and would never think to call himself “doctor” 'cause he knows what a douche that makes him sound like.
^ Hahahahahahaha damn I go to a meeting and interview a guy to hire and this thread blows up grenade style again. Jesus Christ. Even TC put in his two cents.
IT WAS ME WHO STARTED THIS 250lb’s SHIT.
It came from an article in MILO years back and was written by Dr Ken Leistner. Accomplished chiropractor who has competed in olympic and powerlifting competitions, squatted over 400LB’s for 20 reps and bench pressed over 400LB’s and dead lifted over 600LB’s. He has strength coached football teams and lifters and owned the ‘Iron Island’ gym in Long Island for many years before he sold it, he also had his own publication the ‘steel tip’ and has numerous articles published and is a regular contributor to MILO. He is qualified to make the statement.
Of course there are healthy big guys, jesus-look at those Maori boys-their all fucking HUUUUGE, and are probably fighting fit to boot.
I just personally believe that it is best to err on the side of caution with your health and it seems prudent for many people, barring the exceptions of course, who seem to be the minority NOT the majority who can maintain good blood work numbers and levels of CV-is to focus on CV, health and a good diet, and hover under the 250LB mark to minimize strain on the CV system and promote general health and overall well-being. IF you can do this >250LB’s then more power to you.
What he actually wrote was “… It’s hard to argue that being over 250LB’s is healthy, irrespective of body-weight… because of the extra strain placed upon the cardiovascular system…”
Interpret that as you will.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Several around the country, and several will accept students with less than a BA. You’re in Houston, so you should know who Don Speck is. He’s who every dentist should aspire to be [at least from a monetary stance]. I’ve known his step-sons for awhile, and 2 of them have gone on to be dentists, one of which got his degree from a major school in Arizona. He is now a dentist, and would never think to call himself “doctor” 'cause he knows what a douche that makes him sound like.[/quote]
what’s DDS stand for?
oh snizap
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Several around the country, and several will accept students with less than a BA. You’re in Houston, so you should know who Don Speck is. He’s who every dentist should aspire to be [at least from a monetary stance]. I’ve known his step-sons for awhile, and 2 of them have gone on to be dentists, one of which got his degree from a major school in Arizona. He is now a dentist, and would never think to call himself “doctor” 'cause he knows what a douche that makes him sound like.[/quote]
You are full of shit. I said WHICH ONES HAVE 2-3 YEAR PROGRAMS. Not one dental school I know of in North America has a program like that for a DDS so if they are out there, it should be easy to find.
I just posted UT’s course schedule, including every class I ever took from pharmacology to medical diagnosis to gross anatomy.
It is cute that you try so hard to degrade me or what I do, but it just doesn’t fly if it just isn’t true.
[quote]kakno wrote:
[quote]lemonman456 wrote:
BG are you sure that you know the meaning of “strawman”? Here is a link to help you out: Straw man - Wikipedia
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That’s not a strawman. You have to live, eat and breathe strawman to be able to call yourself a strawman. If you’ve never debated, you’ve only gone 85% of the way.
You realize you never get PMs about becoming a strawman, don’t you? People ask BG, not you.
You’re just a stickman.[/quote]
I apologize for my arrogance. Please forgive me BG
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Oh, look at that…UT dental school has their classes listed:
http://dental.uthscsa.edu/educprograms/DDS_curriculum.php
Gee, and four whole years.
Why are people lying?
So far, it’s the same people stopping everyone else from getting deeper information.[/quote]
I bet Pharmacology with Dr. Yui-Wing Lam is no walk in the park…
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Oh, look at that…UT dental school has their classes listed:
http://dental.uthscsa.edu/educprograms/DDS_curriculum.php
Gee, and four whole years.
Why are people lying?
So far, it’s the same people stopping everyone else from getting deeper information.[/quote]
I bet Pharmacology with Dr. Yui-Wing Lam is no walk in the park… [/quote]
You ever see House when they are just going at it throwing out random complex diseases as if they were all just on the tip of their tongue?
There are some people who can really do that.
j/k. I never had him.
if you go to school and earn your MD or a PHD then you are a doctor.
Look at Indiana Jones. He wasnt out there doing open heart surgeries but he was still Doctor Jones.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Several around the country, and several will accept students with less than a BA. You’re in Houston, so you should know who Don Speck is. He’s who every dentist should aspire to be [at least from a monetary stance]. I’ve known his step-sons for awhile, and 2 of them have gone on to be dentists, one of which got his degree from a major school in Arizona. He is now a dentist, and would never think to call himself “doctor” 'cause he knows what a douche that makes him sound like.[/quote]
You are full of shit. I said WHICH ONES HAVE 2-3 YEAR PROGRAMS. Not one dental school I know of in North America has a program like that for a DDS so if they are out there, it should be easy to find.
I just posted UT’s course schedule, including every class I ever took from pharmacology to medical diagnosis to gross anatomy.
It is cute that you try so hard to degrade me or what I do, but it just doesn’t fly if it just isn’t true.[/quote]
And I already wrote, at least one in Arizona. By the law of averages I’m sure there’s more. Dude, I don’t try to degrade you or what you do. I personally don’t give a shit about you, but you seem to be pretty accomplished at making a complete ass of yourself and every now and again I’ll call you out on it.
[quote]gregron wrote:
if you go to school and earn your MD or a PHD then you are a doctor.
Look at Indiana Jones. He wasnt out there doing open heart surgeries but he was still Doctor Jones.
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Weep for us soon-to-be attorneys–we get a Juris Doctorate, yet we aren’t called doctor!