X, unless you edited your post, because it apparently will not quote, please identify exactly WHO here, is “more educated and trained than” me " about matters concerning biology" and…“people who have made more gains than you in the time spent lifting”.
Exactly who here in this thread has exceeded my lifts that I’m arguing with? And exactly who here has any formal biology training other than that you claim as a dentist?
Answer.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Just quit acting like your own weaknesses in genetics translate to every other human on the planet.
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I’m still rolling on the fucking floor at this one. Just illustrates how fucking preposterous you are. Because a guy that played basketball professionally and then transitioned into powerfifting to squat more than 700lbs and deadlift more than 600lbs without drugs has weak genetics. You’re an entertaining dude.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I heard that if you say “strawman” three time in the mirror with the lights off, a 50 year old man weighing EXACTLY 249.98lbs appears behind you and rapes you.[/quote]
Dude, what the fuck is a strawman?
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
LOL? Weakness. I wasn’t fat.[/quote]
Let me stop you there. Only someone who was not educated in how the human body works would think how fat you are is all you need to worry about. If you got unhealthy at a certain weight at a certain age, it isn’t always because you simply weigh a certain amount. Your body is a very complex machine and when it starts to fail, it isn’t because of only ONE cause.
Now, we could have a real discussion here where people could learn something…but that is clearly not what you want here.
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I was 265 and leaner than you are in your most recent pics.
And again, comprehension fail. If most people can’t get there without getting fat, isn’t THAT KINDA THE FUCKING POINT OF THE ARTICLE YOU MORON???[/quote]
Dude, any pic you saw was taken at least 2 weeks ago or more. Any more recent ones have only been pm’d to people.
If you want to play games like that, let’s go.
I told you I bet I look better than you right now with my shirt off. I didn’t say I was “leaner” than you. Post a pic of you with your shirt off and I will take one tonight so that the pic is recent.
Ball’s in your court, pops.
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I heard that if you say “strawman” three time in the mirror with the lights off, a 50 year old man weighing EXACTLY 249.98lbs appears behind you and rapes you.[/quote]
Dude, what the fuck is a strawman?[/quote]
You know that “yabba dabba DOO” thing that Fred Flinstone had?
I think it’s like that.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
You remain in my death pool. Ever been to a cardiologist? What is your blood work? Is your steroid abuse managed by doctors?
Hmm. Lemme guess. You’re self-managing your steroid abuse and you’re using “bro science” with regard to the “liver pills” because you obviously take orals. You have never had a stress test and your blood work, if you’ve had it recently, is out of range.
Amiwrong?[/quote]
first off i have had a stress test a few years back. as far as managing things myself, of course i am. most drs don’t believe in supplements. if you have high blood pressure, do you think a dr. would ever recommend hawthorne berry or celery seed extract. do you think arnold or any of the old time bodybuilders had drs. helping them, are you serious. the only thing slightly out of range on my tests is liver enzymes. but even my dr. has said, that can happen just by lifting weights intensly.
I don’t need any more stress tests, cause i do regular cardio exercise. therefore i don’t need it. Now i could understand your point if i had something majorly wrong with me. but your talking about pretty tame things here. if you do the things necessary for good health, my opinion is tests are unnessary. again, your basing your death pool thing cause im big, thats it.
ok, you seem to be under this misconception that steroids are dangerous and your one of those guys that dramatically over exxagerate what steroids do. let me say this, steroids have never killed anyone. thats a fact. you show me one case where steroids alone have ever proven to a factor of death to anyone. nobody dies from steroids. period. anything thing they do cause, can be easily treated with other supplements.
and please, don’t tell me how dangerous orals are, your one of those guys that over exxagerate everything. can they raise blood pressure, sure, can they raise triglyercide levels, sure, BUT, can fish oils counteract both of those, yes, they can. can celery seed extract lower blood pressure. its been proven to be just as effective as presription meds in head to head tests. so any negative thing that roids do, i take something to counteract that. [/quote]
Dude, you’re delusional. And stop with the fallacious responses. I did not take a position on steroids. I said ABUSE and it’s clear you ABUSE steroids.
Next, your posts and reasoning consistently demonstrate an additive personality, denial and low self-esteem. Seriously dude, go get some professional help if you love your daughter so much.[/quote]
bhahaahahahah, i abuse steroids. why, cause im big. how about i train my ass off, regardless if im sick, injured, it doesn’t matter. my daughter would want me to be happy. and me being big and jacked makes me feel good about myself, makes me feel not like every other dude out there. and i like knowing that. does that mean i have issues. then so be it. we are all shaped by our childhood. do i have issues. of course i do. we all do. what you call addictive personality, i call being focused and driven.
I honestly think that TC wasn’t trying to say ‘if you’re over 250, you’re a fatass’ or ‘bulking is wrong’ or whatever it’s been misconstrued as. What it has been twisted for is for people to come out of the woodwork (NOT here, on the livespill) and boast about their lack of progress and how bulking doesn’t work for them, post hoc propter hoc no one should bulk or they’ll get fat. Much like CT’s “the truth about bulking” article is now flagged up by people on other websites as justification for remaining skinny when its original intention was far from that.
That’s all. Toodle pip
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
Like others have said, the article is to sell supplements and diets. I don’t think it’s anything greater than that.[/quote]
Concise and to the point, DD with the win. [/quote]
Yeah! =D[/quote]
Pffft, typical software “engineer.” Always trying to keep things tidy.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I heard that if you say “strawman” three time in the mirror with the lights off, a 50 year old man weighing EXACTLY 249.98lbs appears behind you and rapes you.[/quote]
hahahahahaha! I seriously LOLed
after 16 pages this just go interesting…
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And let’s get this clear. You’re a dentist. Not a fucking internist. When we need advice on teeth, I’m sure it will be like E.F. Hutton speaking. But every single fucking time you elude to your medical training outside the mouth and gums, there is a collective fucking eye roll all over the universe (and this forum).
Are you really that unaware?[/quote]
Honestly I think the whole “medical training” thing comes from people butchering the basic science while trying to give scientific reasons for training ideas. Someone with a background in anything health science related would be a lot less likely to do that. Hence the point of mentioning it if you have that background.
With regards to training, be it for bodybuilding or some other endeavor I’d trust a dentist with years of experience “on the field” [or a pharmacist like Modok] over a doctor with no experience at all.
To offer a scientific perspective, too.
[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And let’s get this clear. You’re a dentist. Not a fucking internist. When we need advice on teeth, I’m sure it will be like E.F. Hutton speaking. But every single fucking time you elude to your medical training outside the mouth and gums, there is a collective fucking eye roll all over the universe (and this forum).
Are you really that unaware?[/quote]
Honestly I think the whole “medical training” thing comes from people butchering the basic science while trying to give scientific reasons for training ideas. Someone with a background in anything health science related would be a lot less likely to do that. Hence the point of mentioning it if you have that background.
With regards to training, be it for bodybuilding or some other endeavor I’d trust a dentist with years of experience “on the field” [or a pharmacist like Modok] over a doctor with no experience at all.
To offer a scientific perspective, too. [/quote]
As a dentist in America, I can get certified to do plastic surgery…but some guys on the internet seem to think it’s funny that I am one?
Guys, get over it. Yes, the average dentist in America is a doctor and yes, they focus on the mouth but had the same basic training as med students.
That is why that level of training gets mentioned.
I mean, the logic involved in saying, “you’re just a dentist” makes no sense when coming from people who are just …what?
A body guard now knows more about the human body than someone who treats patients medically everyday.
This has gotten dumb.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
I believe the point of the article should be - don’t carry excess fat in your effort to look big. [/quote]
Bingo - that’s really all the article is saying. That’s BG’s point as well.
I don’t know how it got so convoluted.[/quote]
Yeah and I agreed with the that point. But when BG said:
"It wasn’t the point of the article and it wasn’t my point. The point of the article was, a lot of guys are on a constant bulk and carry more junk that necessary and it’s unhealthy (it absolutely is). My point was as middle age nears, it’s not healthy to be 250 plus no matter what the composition . It’s a strain on your heart - period. End of story. "
despite bragging about how great shape he is in at 240 lbs. 240 is OK. 250, that’s unhealthy.[/quote]
Not what I said. You inferred it. More weight = more strain.
Are you arguing that being larger than necessary into your later years is healthy? Care to explore the mortality of people of above average height?
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Nope I’m not arguing that. I’m pointing out that it’s hypocritical to brag about how awesome and healthy you are at 240 while claiming people over 250 are unhealthy.
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You can play with my words all you want. It doesn’t change the basic message. You want to hear what you want to hear. [/quote]
I didn’t play with your words in that post. I quoted exactly what you wrote. There are a few others that noticed it as well, but I suppose by quoting you we’re building a STRAWMEN takes a drink
I agree with x tbh.
Every medical professional has a specific forte, a mouth Dr is no less qualified than a cardiologist or neurologist etc. It’s just a different part of the body.
neelydan actually feels badly for bodyguard at this point
poor bodyguard
perhaps retire to the estate located on the lush, rolling green hills you mentioned in sama and live the rest of your days in whatever peace you can muster in spite of your xenophobic, troglodytic existence
neelydan scores major points for using both xenophobe and troglodyte in one sentence
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]
You can play with my words all you want. It doesn’t change the basic message. You want to hear what you want to hear. [/quote]
I didn’t play with your words in that post. I quoted exactly what you wrote. There are a few others that noticed it as well, but I suppose by quoting you we’re building a STRAWMEN takes a drink[/quote]
he said the same thing to me when all I did was directly quote him. (and I’m sure he’ll say it again after my next post.
BG are you sure that you know the meaning of “strawman”? Here is a link to help you out: Straw man - Wikipedia
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
I agree with x tbh.
Every medical professional has a specific forte, a mouth Dr is no less qualified than a cardiologist or neurologist etc. It’s just a different part of the body.[/quote]
well…let’s be honest…a seinfeld episode was created based on those imposters the pediatrists…
First you said:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
My point was as middle age nears, it’s not healthy to be 250 plus no matter what the composition. It’s a strain on your heart - period. End of story.[/quote]
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
The guy reiterated my point that being 250lb plus is not healthy…[/quote]
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
When you can find me ANY fucking man on the planet age 70 or better carrying 250lbs (at any body composition) and HEALTHY, post your proof.
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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And wake me up when all these guys here meet or exceed 240 lean.[/quote]
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Most of you will NEVER be 250+ and healthy over the long term. And if you’re not north of 250, how the fuck do you even have an informed opinion on that matter???[/quote]
and then you said:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
You do fucking realize I never said anything about a specific weight don’t you?
[/quote]
^^What???
(all quotes are listed in the order that they appear)
Strawman, gregron. Strawman. Have you no shame?