[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
Serge Nubret is dead.[/quote]
Dude he was poisioned, and a picture of health at 70, something which appears to be impossible according to the original article.[/quote]
Yeah, that’s the rumor that he was poisoned. It’s a shame.
MG, Serge was WELL under 250 pounds for his entire life, so I don’t think he has anything to do with what the OP is stating.
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It is IMPOSSIBLE to have a serious discussion in these forums without someone building a STRAWMAN (someone take a drink) and misrepresenting your point. Impossible. I argued with lawyers for the last 20 years and even though most of them are lying cheating assholes, I guess I was spoiled because the average person cannot construct an intelligent fucking rebuttal.
If you disagree with me, fine. But at least don’t misrepresent my words to make your point.
The article, and my OP, were not about guys that were the “picture of health”. It’s about those guys that are the perpetual manatees - not the guys bulking to diet down. The guys that look like shit. I added my personal twist about my decision not to carry any extra junk as I age - it wasn’t a declaration that I had plans to get all Brad Pitt.
And finally, it occurred to me that some of you in this thread remind me of that joke about masturbating. In response to being told it would make you blind, they stated they would only do it until they need glasses. Funny joke, but sadly illustrates a basic human weakness - that until we are on the precipice of disaster, we rarely change.
Hopefully, none of you guys that aspire to be hyooge will go blind. Not that I’m seriously worried about most of you getting hyooge. LOL But the vampire dude is definitely in my death pool. And I remain hopeful that X will actually compete. I respect his work. I just don’t like some of the things he writes and I’m sure it’s mutual. [/quote]
in your deathpool??? i find that funny considering you know nothing about me. like that i take about 12 grams of fish oils per day. that i routinely do cardio exercise after every weight training session. That i take more vitamins and liver pills and you name it i take it. just cause im a big guy, im in your death pool??? for someone who claims to be such a smart guy, you sure don’t base any of your statements on fact. before you deem someone unhealthy, maybe you should know a bit more facts.[/quote]
You remain in my death pool. Ever been to a cardiologist? What is your blood work? Is your steroid abuse managed by doctors?
Hmm. Lemme guess. You’re self-managing your steroid abuse and you’re using “bro science” with regard to the “liver pills” because you obviously take orals. You have never had a stress test and your blood work, if you’ve had it recently, is out of range.
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first off i have had a stress test a few years back. as far as managing things myself, of course i am. most drs don’t believe in supplements. if you have high blood pressure, do you think a dr. would ever recommend hawthorne berry or celery seed extract. do you think arnold or any of the old time bodybuilders had drs. helping them, are you serious. the only thing slightly out of range on my tests is liver enzymes. but even my dr. has said, that can happen just by lifting weights intensly.
I don’t need any more stress tests, cause i do regular cardio exercise. therefore i don’t need it. Now i could understand your point if i had something majorly wrong with me. but your talking about pretty tame things here. if you do the things necessary for good health, my opinion is tests are unnessary. again, your basing your death pool thing cause im big, thats it.
ok, you seem to be under this misconception that steroids are dangerous and your one of those guys that dramatically over exxagerate what steroids do. let me say this, steroids have never killed anyone. thats a fact. you show me one case where steroids alone have ever proven to a factor of death to anyone. nobody dies from steroids. period. anything thing they do cause, can be easily treated with other supplements.
and please, don’t tell me how dangerous orals are, your one of those guys that over exxagerate everything. can they raise blood pressure, sure, can they raise triglyercide levels, sure, BUT, can fish oils counteract both of those, yes, they can. can celery seed extract lower blood pressure. its been proven to be just as effective as presription meds in head to head tests. so any negative thing that roids do, i take something to counteract that.