Most BodyBuilders Look Like Crap

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:
Serge Nubret is dead.[/quote]

Dude he was poisioned, and a picture of health at 70, something which appears to be impossible according to the original article.[/quote]

Yeah, that’s the rumor that he was poisoned. It’s a shame.

MG, Serge was WELL under 250 pounds for his entire life, so I don’t think he has anything to do with what the OP is stating.
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It is IMPOSSIBLE to have a serious discussion in these forums without someone building a STRAWMAN (someone take a drink) and misrepresenting your point. Impossible. I argued with lawyers for the last 20 years and even though most of them are lying cheating assholes, I guess I was spoiled because the average person cannot construct an intelligent fucking rebuttal.

If you disagree with me, fine. But at least don’t misrepresent my words to make your point.

The article, and my OP, were not about guys that were the “picture of health”. It’s about those guys that are the perpetual manatees - not the guys bulking to diet down. The guys that look like shit. I added my personal twist about my decision not to carry any extra junk as I age - it wasn’t a declaration that I had plans to get all Brad Pitt.

And finally, it occurred to me that some of you in this thread remind me of that joke about masturbating. In response to being told it would make you blind, they stated they would only do it until they need glasses. Funny joke, but sadly illustrates a basic human weakness - that until we are on the precipice of disaster, we rarely change.

Hopefully, none of you guys that aspire to be hyooge will go blind. Not that I’m seriously worried about most of you getting hyooge. LOL But the vampire dude is definitely in my death pool. And I remain hopeful that X will actually compete. I respect his work. I just don’t like some of the things he writes and I’m sure it’s mutual. [/quote]

in your deathpool??? i find that funny considering you know nothing about me. like that i take about 12 grams of fish oils per day. that i routinely do cardio exercise after every weight training session. That i take more vitamins and liver pills and you name it i take it. just cause im a big guy, im in your death pool??? for someone who claims to be such a smart guy, you sure don’t base any of your statements on fact. before you deem someone unhealthy, maybe you should know a bit more facts.

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I wonder if TC has seen this thread.

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[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
I doubt it was direct at YOU specifically, IH.[/quote]

Me too…

I just wanted to poke the bear a little.

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[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
I wonder if TC has seen this thread.[/quote]

If there’s one thing I’m sure of after reading this shit, it’s that he most certainly has. Dude knows how to stir up the hornets nest, that’s for sure.

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Also, after rereading the article, I don’t know what the fuck he was trying to say. The first page is a homo-erotic homage to Doogan, then there is roughly a half-page discussing the definitions of concave and convex and a few references to women to offset the Doogan nut-swinging, and then only at the end is there anything mentioning health, and it’s brief.

I just don’t see how people are interpreting this article as primarily concerning the health effects of being too fat. And consider the source. TC is a gifted writer, to be sure. But from the pics I’ve seen he has a physique that no one on this site would aspire to, so I think he’s just defending his perceived position as a guy people think is skinny.

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[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:
Serge Nubret is dead.[/quote]

Dude he was poisioned, and a picture of health at 70, something which appears to be impossible according to the original article.[/quote]

Yeah, that’s the rumor that he was poisoned. It’s a shame.

MG, Serge was WELL under 250 pounds for his entire life, so I don’t think he has anything to do with what the OP is stating.
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It is IMPOSSIBLE to have a serious discussion in these forums without someone building a STRAWMAN (someone take a drink) and misrepresenting your point. Impossible. I argued with lawyers for the last 20 years and even though most of them are lying cheating assholes, I guess I was spoiled because the average person cannot construct an intelligent fucking rebuttal.

If you disagree with me, fine. But at least don’t misrepresent my words to make your point.

The article, and my OP, were not about guys that were the “picture of health”. It’s about those guys that are the perpetual manatees - not the guys bulking to diet down. The guys that look like shit. I added my personal twist about my decision not to carry any extra junk as I age - it wasn’t a declaration that I had plans to get all Brad Pitt.

And finally, it occurred to me that some of you in this thread remind me of that joke about masturbating. In response to being told it would make you blind, they stated they would only do it until they need glasses. Funny joke, but sadly illustrates a basic human weakness - that until we are on the precipice of disaster, we rarely change.

Hopefully, none of you guys that aspire to be hyooge will go blind. Not that I’m seriously worried about most of you getting hyooge. LOL But the vampire dude is definitely in my death pool. And I remain hopeful that X will actually compete. I respect his work. I just don’t like some of the things he writes and I’m sure it’s mutual. [/quote]

Hold on… Is this directed at me?

Because, I know what the article said and the message you’re trying to convey here.

I was being a casual observer and being amused by the bi-polar posts on here.

Then, MG posted… [/quote]

Nooooo! :slight_smile: I just piggybacked on your post. Sorry for the confusion sir.

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[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:
Serge Nubret is dead.[/quote]

Dude he was poisioned, and a picture of health at 70, something which appears to be impossible according to the original article.[/quote]

Yeah, that’s the rumor that he was poisoned. It’s a shame.

MG, Serge was WELL under 250 pounds for his entire life, so I don’t think he has anything to do with what the OP is stating.
[/quote]

It is IMPOSSIBLE to have a serious discussion in these forums without someone building a STRAWMAN (someone take a drink) and misrepresenting your point. Impossible. I argued with lawyers for the last 20 years and even though most of them are lying cheating assholes, I guess I was spoiled because the average person cannot construct an intelligent fucking rebuttal.

If you disagree with me, fine. But at least don’t misrepresent my words to make your point.

The article, and my OP, were not about guys that were the “picture of health”. It’s about those guys that are the perpetual manatees - not the guys bulking to diet down. The guys that look like shit. I added my personal twist about my decision not to carry any extra junk as I age - it wasn’t a declaration that I had plans to get all Brad Pitt.

And finally, it occurred to me that some of you in this thread remind me of that joke about masturbating. In response to being told it would make you blind, they stated they would only do it until they need glasses. Funny joke, but sadly illustrates a basic human weakness - that until we are on the precipice of disaster, we rarely change.

Hopefully, none of you guys that aspire to be hyooge will go blind. Not that I’m seriously worried about most of you getting hyooge. LOL But the vampire dude is definitely in my death pool. And I remain hopeful that X will actually compete. I respect his work. I just don’t like some of the things he writes and I’m sure it’s mutual. [/quote]

in your deathpool??? i find that funny considering you know nothing about me. like that i take about 12 grams of fish oils per day. that i routinely do cardio exercise after every weight training session. That i take more vitamins and liver pills and you name it i take it. just cause im a big guy, im in your death pool??? for someone who claims to be such a smart guy, you sure don’t base any of your statements on fact. before you deem someone unhealthy, maybe you should know a bit more facts.[/quote]

You remain in my death pool. Ever been to a cardiologist? What is your blood work? Is your steroid abuse managed by doctors?

Hmm. Lemme guess. You’re self-managing your steroid abuse and you’re using “bro science” with regard to the “liver pills” because you obviously take orals. You have never had a stress test and your blood work, if you’ve had it recently, is out of range.

Amiwrong?

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[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
I wonder if TC has seen this thread.[/quote]

I’m not just a maven, I’m also a connector.

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UMAD all up in this thread.

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Just curious but if I can’t/shouldn’t maintain my weight into old age - why even bother putting in all the work? Shouldn’t we all just strive to be average right now?

I believe the point of the article should be - don’t carry excess fat in your effort to look big. I don’t know if that is the goal of anyone on this site.

Is anyone here looking to be big and fat??

Anyone???

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[quote]lemonman456 wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]lemonman456 wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]lemonman456 wrote:
My mom was just watching “The Real Housewives of New York” and I was just dumbfounded at how stupid and whiny people could be even though they were successful and at around 40 years of age. Sometimes this site reminds me a lot of that show.[/quote]

You ever watch the show the Jersey Shore about young dumbass kids who drink all the time, fuck everything that moves, take any type of med to get them “Jacked”? Well these kind of comments remind me of that show. [/quote]
hrmm, that’s not what I was trying to say at all[/quote]

Fair enough, just goes to show that interpretation is a bitch in the English language. My bad. Carry on. [/quote]
Yeah, we can’t even agree on a definition for “bodybuilder”[/quote]

Hahahahahahahahaha nice one.

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The whole bodybuilder/powerlifter TITLE bothers me.

My goals are to build bigger muscles and to have a symetrical build. Doesn’t that make me a bodybuilder?

If I compete, then wouldn’t that make me a competitive bodybuilder?

I think sometimes you people argue for the sake of arguing.

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[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
I believe the point of the article should be - don’t carry excess fat in your effort to look big. [/quote]

Bingo - that’s really all the article is saying. That’s BG’s point as well.

I don’t know how it got so convoluted.

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[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
I believe the point of the article should be - don’t carry excess fat in your effort to look big. [/quote]

Bingo - that’s really all the article is saying. That’s BG’s point as well.

I don’t know how it got so convoluted.[/quote]

TC should be restricted to a Twitter account. That way he’ll have to get straight to the point.

I do agree though, he seems set on stirring the pot and I’d say he’s been beyond successful simply by looking at the length of this thread.

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[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
I believe the point of the article should be - don’t carry excess fat in your effort to look big. [/quote]

Bingo - that’s really all the article is saying. That’s BG’s point as well.

I don’t know how it got so convoluted.[/quote]

Yeah and I agreed with the that point. But when BG said:

"It wasn’t the point of the article and it wasn’t my point. The point of the article was, a lot of guys are on a constant bulk and carry more junk that necessary and it’s unhealthy (it absolutely is). My point was as middle age nears, it’s not healthy to be 250 plus no matter what the composition . It’s a strain on your heart - period. End of story. "

despite bragging about how great shape he is in at 240 lbs. 240 is OK. 250, that’s unhealthy.

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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
I believe the point of the article should be - don’t carry excess fat in your effort to look big. [/quote]

Bingo - that’s really all the article is saying. That’s BG’s point as well.

I don’t know how it got so convoluted.[/quote]

Yeah and I agreed with the that point. But when BG said:

"It wasn’t the point of the article and it wasn’t my point. The point of the article was, a lot of guys are on a constant bulk and carry more junk that necessary and it’s unhealthy (it absolutely is). My point was as middle age nears, it’s not healthy to be 250 plus no matter what the composition . It’s a strain on your heart - period. End of story. "

despite bragging about how great shape he is in at 240 lbs. 240 is OK. 250, that’s unhealthy.[/quote]

Exactly. If all BG was saying was “don’t get obese”, no one would be challenging him. Instead, a guy with very little to no medical background is trying to tell us that a specific weight is the cause of poor health…all while degrading every single person who disagrees with him.

If “250lbs” is now unhealthy, why the hell would he weigh just 10lbs south of death?

…and then act like the guys with medical training are clueless?

OK.

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[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
The whole bodybuilder/powerlifter TITLE bothers me.

My goals are to build bigger muscles and to have a symetrical build. Doesn’t that make me a bodybuilder?

If I compete, then wouldn’t that make me a competitive bodybuilder?

I think sometimes you people argue for the sake of arguing.[/quote]

Bingo…but instead, they seem to have some goal of making sure no one ever calls themselves a “bodybuilder” unless they approve of the title.

I would hope a deeper discussion than that could take place.

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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
despite bragging about how great shape he is in at 240 lbs. 240 is OK. 250, that’s unhealthy.[/quote]

True - but he has a valid point. The larger you are, the more your heart has to work for systemic and pulmonary circulation…regardless of body comp.

I notice that the heavy-weight bodybuilders tend to drop considerable weight after retiring - look at Yates, or Levrone. Cutler has gone on record saying he can’t wait to not have to eat as much as he does and he’d like to maintain a lower bodyweight. I think we can all agree that BB at that level - weighing 300+ pounds - is not the healthiest thing for anyone.

People that have goals to weigh that much are likely offended by the sentiment that it isn’t healthy, and I understand that, but that doesn’t change the fact…

But really, the point here is not to carry a bunch of unnecessary bodyfat just to claim a certain weight.

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[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
despite bragging about how great shape he is in at 240 lbs. 240 is OK. 250, that’s unhealthy.[/quote]

True - but he has a valid point. The larger you are, the more your heart has to work for systemic and pulmonary circulation…regardless of body comp.

I notice that the heavy-weight bodybuilders tend to drop considerable weight after retiring - look at Yates, or Levrone. Cutler has gone on record saying he can’t wait to not have to eat as much as he does and he’d like to maintain a lower bodyweight. I think we can all agree that BB at that level - weighing 300+ pounds - is not the healthiest thing for anyone.

People that have goals to weigh that much are likely offended by the sentiment that it isn’t healthy, and I understand that, but that doesn’t change the fact…

But really, the point here is not to carry a bunch of unnecessary bodyfat just to claim a certain weight.

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? Those guys drop weight because they stop taking the large amount of drugs that helped them reach 300lbs with single digit body fat readings.

I think some of you are simplifying what is going on with the human body as it ages and simply relating “health with weight”.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
? Those guys drop weight because they stop taking the large amount of drugs that helped them reach 300lbs with single digit body fat readings.

I think some of you are simplifying what is going on with the human body as it ages and simply relating “health with weight”.[/quote]

That’s certainly part of it.

But hey, I’m just a simpleton. I’ll leave the serious interpretations to the more serious people on the forum. : )