MORE Star Wars???????

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
Could he at least fucking smile?[/quote]

Lucas? He does. All the way to the fucking bank with that tiny, flaccid little cock of his that’s shriveled up from over-use in us old-school Star Wars fans’ assholes.[/quote]

http://tvnz.co.nz/entertainment-news/george-lucas-donate-star-wars-billions-charity-5189179

Star Wars creator George Lucas plans to use profits from the $US4.05 billion ($NZ4.9 billion) sale of his company Lucasfilm to fund education charities

[quote]Biffinator wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
Could he at least fucking smile?[/quote]

Lucas? He does. All the way to the fucking bank with that tiny, flaccid little cock of his that’s shriveled up from over-use in us old-school Star Wars fans’ assholes.[/quote]

http://tvnz.co.nz/entertainment-news/george-lucas-donate-star-wars-billions-charity-5189179

Star Wars creator George Lucas plans to use profits from the $US4.05 billion ($NZ4.9 billion) sale of his company Lucasfilm to fund education charities[/quote]

So what? That doesn’t account for all the assrapings he’s handed out over the years. Am I supposed to like the guy because he paid to have my prolapsed rectum put back in my asshole after he fucked the shit out of me?

Nice avatar by the way.

Man I love the SF Giants

[quote]groo wrote:
The prequels for whatever reason deviated entirely from the heroes journey stuff that he learned in his mythology classes into whatever the hell it turned into.
[/quote]

Three main reasons why the prequels failed:

By then George Lucas was rich enough to fund eps 1-3 without any outside help. That meant he could commit anything his imagination could dream up - good or bad - to film.

The original trilogy actually benefitted from financial and technological limitations: ILM had more creative input then and it showed.

Lucas writes the corniest dialogue (Harrison Ford once commented: “George, you can write this shit, but you can’t say it”) and he had a reputation for being a hands-off director, just letting his actors do whatever (not a great combo when acting against a green screen).

Tied into all this was Lucas’ baffling decision to direct and write all three movies. I still wonder how the prequels would’ve turned out if Spielberg had directed and Lucas just produced, Indy style.

Anakin wasn’t a hero so Lucas couldn’t follow Campbell’s template this time. Lucas tried his best though, but Anakin/ Vader ended up looking like Palpatine’s bitch, not a victim of fate.

There are more, but that’s enough to sink a franchise…

Why don’t they go with a different time frame? There are plenty of books and canon outside episodes 7-9. It’ll be too much of Luke and son.

Hopefully they focus on the sith. Darth Maul was fucking awesome and there are a lot of interesting sith out there

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Why don’t they go with a different time frame? There are plenty of books and canon outside episodes 7-9. It’ll be too much of Luke and son.

Hopefully they focus on the sith. Darth Maul was fucking awesome and there are a lot of interesting sith out there[/quote]

The Sith War which ended with Darth Bane creating the rule of two has massive potential for a new series of movies, and it’s set far enough in the past that surprise cameos are a definite no-no.

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:
The prequels for whatever reason deviated entirely from the heroes journey stuff that he learned in his mythology classes into whatever the hell it turned into.
[/quote]

Three main reasons why the prequels failed:

By then George Lucas was rich enough to fund eps 1-3 without any outside help. That meant he could commit anything his imagination could dream up - good or bad - to film.

The original trilogy actually benefitted from financial and technological limitations: ILM had more creative input then and it showed.

Lucas writes the corniest dialogue (Harrison Ford once commented: “George, you can write this shit, but you can’t say it”) and he had a reputation for being a hands-off director, just letting his actors do whatever (not a great combo when acting against a green screen).

Tied into all this was Lucas’ baffling decision to direct and write all three movies. I still wonder how the prequels would’ve turned out if Spielberg had directed and Lucas just produced, Indy style.

Anakin wasn’t a hero so Lucas couldn’t follow Campbell’s template this time. Lucas tried his best though, but Anakin/ Vader ended up looking like Palpatine’s bitch, not a victim of fate.

There are more, but that’s enough to sink a franchise…[/quote]

Yeah, me and a buddy turned to each other after seeing the Lapti Nek dance scene in the Return of the Jedi Special Edition and later said “If that’s really Lucas’s vision then maybe we don’t want to see it”

It seems like Star Wars owed much of its success and appeal to people other than Lucas. Apparently Richard Chiew, the editor edited the fottage he had to a millimeter of its life to make the movie look good.

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Why don’t they go with a different time frame? There are plenty of books and canon outside episodes 7-9. It’ll be too much of Luke and son.

Hopefully they focus on the sith. Darth Maul was fucking awesome and there are a lot of interesting sith out there[/quote]

The Sith War which ended with Darth Bane creating the rule of two has massive potential for a new series of movies, and it’s set far enough in the past that surprise cameos are a definite no-no.[/quote]

Too far back for Yoda? (not familiar with that story)

which makes me wonder, what about a film/series starring a young Yoda? Wow what would a young Yoda look like? I agree there is just so much to explore outside 7-9.

I would prefer one starring a badass sith though.

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Why don’t they go with a different time frame? There are plenty of books and canon outside episodes 7-9. It’ll be too much of Luke and son.

Hopefully they focus on the sith. Darth Maul was fucking awesome and there are a lot of interesting sith out there[/quote]

The Sith War which ended with Darth Bane creating the rule of two has massive potential for a new series of movies, and it’s set far enough in the past that surprise cameos are a definite no-no.[/quote]

OMG this! I read all three books in the Bane series. Honestly though, If done right with today’s technology, these CGI effect could be fucking EPIC. Darth Bane is my all time favorite sith, hands down. I cant even imagine any one actor right now to play him. If you really like the Star Wars series, check out the Darth Bane novels, 3 total they are completely worth it.

Another series that comes to mind is the Bounty Hunter Tales, there’s so many characters out there that fit the canon it’s ridiculous.

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Why don’t they go with a different time frame? There are plenty of books and canon outside episodes 7-9. It’ll be too much of Luke and son.

Hopefully they focus on the sith. Darth Maul was fucking awesome and there are a lot of interesting sith out there[/quote]

The Sith War which ended with Darth Bane creating the rule of two has massive potential for a new series of movies, and it’s set far enough in the past that surprise cameos are a definite no-no.[/quote]

Too far back for Yoda? (not familiar with that story)

which makes me wonder, what about a film/series starring a young Yoda? Wow what would a young Yoda look like? I agree there is just so much to explore outside 7-9.

I would prefer one starring a badass sith though.[/quote]

Darth Bane -who is the Dark Side’s answer to Yoda - lived around 1,000 years before the events of eps 1-3. Yoda was between 700 and 800 years old in Empire, so he just misses out.

The real meat is in the Sith War: they were once as numerous as the Jedi, but almost wiped themselves out in pursuit of power. Darth Bane later established the rule of two so that such a war never happened again.

My final vote goes for ANYTHING Sith Related, but done correctly lol. I don’t care if they go back in time and show Darth Maul’s various missions, I’ve read a lot of his books as well, and comics. They took him out like a little bitch in Ep 1, he would of seen that coming a mile away in the books.

[quote]Nards wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:
The prequels for whatever reason deviated entirely from the heroes journey stuff that he learned in his mythology classes into whatever the hell it turned into.
[/quote]

Three main reasons why the prequels failed:

By then George Lucas was rich enough to fund eps 1-3 without any outside help. That meant he could commit anything his imagination could dream up - good or bad - to film.

The original trilogy actually benefitted from financial and technological limitations: ILM had more creative input then and it showed.

Lucas writes the corniest dialogue (Harrison Ford once commented: “George, you can write this shit, but you can’t say it”) and he had a reputation for being a hands-off director, just letting his actors do whatever (not a great combo when acting against a green screen).

Tied into all this was Lucas’ baffling decision to direct and write all three movies. I still wonder how the prequels would’ve turned out if Spielberg had directed and Lucas just produced, Indy style.

Anakin wasn’t a hero so Lucas couldn’t follow Campbell’s template this time. Lucas tried his best though, but Anakin/ Vader ended up looking like Palpatine’s bitch, not a victim of fate.

There are more, but that’s enough to sink a franchise…[/quote]

Yeah, me and a buddy turned to each other after seeing the Lapti Nek dance scene in the Return of the Jedi Special Edition and later said “If that’s really Lucas’s vision then maybe we don’t want to see it”

It seems like Star Wars owed much of its success and appeal to people other than Lucas. Apparently Richard Chiew, the editor edited the fottage he had to a millimeter of its life to make the movie look good.[/quote]

He lost a lot of respect by releasing only the Special Editions on DVD. The untouched versions might not have been the movies HE wanted to be remembered for, but the people who made him rich enough to fuck with the OT in the first place deserve the choice.

Most of the truly iconic stuff in Star Wars are other people’s ideas, like the lightsaber sounds (a cheap effect made by waving a microphone across an amp to create feedback). Seems trivial, but hugely influential on pop culture.

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

I’m a huge Star Wars fan and all that, but REALLY??? George Lucas sold Lucasfilm, Ltd. for $4.05 billion and now motherfucking DISNEY is going to make Episodes 7, 8, 9? And then they plan on releasing another Star Wars film every few years, like James Bond or some shit.

George Lucas is the king of milking something for all it’s worth and then some. Whaddya guys think? Is there ANY way at all that these films will have any redeeming features? I thought Revenge of the Sith had its moments, but other than that Lucas has fucked up every single second of every single Star Wars film starting about halfway through Return of the Jedi when those goddamned Ewoks showed up.

They should have raped Leia, that little fucking tart.[/quote]

(*posting off the cuff without reading anything but the OP first, so my apologies if anything has been covered already)

I knew we could find common ground on something.

Biggest problem with episodes 1, 2 and 3 was, well, aside from the last 10 minutes or so of episode three, that they possessed NONE of the qualities that made 4, 5 and 6 so damned good. In particular, characterization, characterization, characterization.

I saw a terrific write-up by somebody on the interwebz somewhere about this glaring difference. The guy first asked a few people to describe certain characters like, for example, Han Solo (who shot Greedo first in the original!). Easily done, right? He’s a brave, rugged, go-it-alone type, a Don Juan with a mean narcissistic streak. He looks out for number one most of the time, but has a strong moral core that keeps him grounded, and is still willing to put his life on the line to save his friends.

Now try the same exercise with any given character from 1,2,or 3. Queen Amidala? She’s uhh…good with makeup and curlers? Any of the Jedi? I recall Annakin had good driving skills. Can you remember one real standout characteristic for any of them? Oh, yeah, there’s one character I could do that with: Jar Jar Binks puke.

Ugh. I have always been one of the hugest Star Wars fans imaginable. I STILL have almost every toy ever made, including the original large dolls (would love to get my hands on an original large IG-88 or the Boba Fett with the launching back rocket). I can only imagine that more bad is going to come from this. Whoever owns the rights to this should do the right thing and not ever sell them to anyone or make another movie again until they figure out how to resurrect Akira Kurosawa to do the direction.
[/quote]

I think this is the review you are talking about. I recommend watching the reviews for all 3 prequels, they are really good.

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/star-wars-episode-1-the-phantom-menace/

[quote]jldume wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Why don’t they go with a different time frame? There are plenty of books and canon outside episodes 7-9. It’ll be too much of Luke and son.

Hopefully they focus on the sith. Darth Maul was fucking awesome and there are a lot of interesting sith out there[/quote]

The Sith War which ended with Darth Bane creating the rule of two has massive potential for a new series of movies, and it’s set far enough in the past that surprise cameos are a definite no-no.[/quote]

OMG this! I read all three books in the Bane series. Honestly though, If done right with today’s technology, these CGI effect could be fucking EPIC. Darth Bane is my all time favorite sith, hands down. I cant even imagine any one actor right now to play him. If you really like the Star Wars series, check out the Darth Bane novels, 3 total they are completely worth it.

Another series that comes to mind is the Bounty Hunter Tales, there’s so many characters out there that fit the canon it’s ridiculous.[/quote]

One of the scenes I loved most out of the OT was when Vader gathered Fett, Dengar, Bossk and co. Back then I thought they were a single, crack team of bounty hunters and not competitors who go solo on Solo.

Yeah, reading about every Bounter Hunter Individually gives me a new found respect for them. Obviously more so the BH outlined in the Bounter Hunter Wars since they were the best of the best. I honestly only watched Episode 1, 2, and 3 once. After that I completely dismissed them. I’ve seen all the light saber fights on youtube for all of them like a thousand times though, but I couldn’t get into the movies.

Episode 4, 5, and 6 though are a different story, I’ve got those on DVD. Pretty soon I’m going for the Blu-ray collection.

[quote]jldume wrote:
Yeah, reading about every Bounter Hunter Individually gives me a new found respect for them. Obviously more so the BH outlined in the Bounter Hunter Wars since they were the best of the best. I honestly only watched Episode 1, 2, and 3 once. After that I completely dismissed them. I’ve seen all the light saber fights on youtube for all of them like a thousand times though, but I couldn’t get into the movies.

Episode 4, 5, and 6 though are a different story, I’ve got those on DVD. Pretty soon I’m going for the Blu-ray collection.[/quote]

Maybe the buy out of Lucasfilm means that a release of the untampered OT will finally happen (easy way of recouping their investment). Lucas refused to release the CGI free version on DVD - it’s only available on VHS.

None of the Special Editions add anything.

I don’t get the panic mode expressed by some. They can’t do worse than the old CHristmas Special, and I’d be surprised if they don’t do better than the damn prequels. and it isn’t like Lucas hasn’t whored out Star Wars for mechandise for years. Hopefully we’ll at least get the blu-rays of the original series out of this.

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

I’m a huge Star Wars fan and all that, but REALLY??? George Lucas sold Lucasfilm, Ltd. for $4.05 billion and now motherfucking DISNEY is going to make Episodes 7, 8, 9? And then they plan on releasing another Star Wars film every few years, like James Bond or some shit.

George Lucas is the king of milking something for all it’s worth and then some. Whaddya guys think? Is there ANY way at all that these films will have any redeeming features? I thought Revenge of the Sith had its moments, but other than that Lucas has fucked up every single second of every single Star Wars film starting about halfway through Return of the Jedi when those goddamned Ewoks showed up.

They should have raped Leia, that little fucking tart.[/quote]

(*posting off the cuff without reading anything but the OP first, so my apologies if anything has been covered already)

I knew we could find common ground on something.

Biggest problem with episodes 1, 2 and 3 was, well, aside from the last 10 minutes or so of episode three, that they possessed NONE of the qualities that made 4, 5 and 6 so damned good. In particular, characterization, characterization, characterization.

I saw a terrific write-up by somebody on the interwebz somewhere about this glaring difference. The guy first asked a few people to describe certain characters like, for example, Han Solo (who shot Greedo first in the original!). Easily done, right? He’s a brave, rugged, go-it-alone type, a Don Juan with a mean narcissistic streak. He looks out for number one most of the time, but has a strong moral core that keeps him grounded, and is still willing to put his life on the line to save his friends.

Now try the same exercise with any given character from 1,2,or 3. Queen Amidala? She’s uhh…good with makeup and curlers? Any of the Jedi? I recall Annakin had good driving skills. Can you remember one real standout characteristic for any of them? Oh, yeah, there’s one character I could do that with: Jar Jar Binks puke.

Ugh. I have always been one of the hugest Star Wars fans imaginable. I STILL have almost every toy ever made, including the original large dolls (would love to get my hands on an original large IG-88 or the Boba Fett with the launching back rocket). I can only imagine that more bad is going to come from this. Whoever owns the rights to this should do the right thing and not ever sell them to anyone or make another movie again until they figure out how to resurrect Akira Kurosawa to do the direction.
[/quote]

I think this is the review you are talking about. I recommend watching the reviews for all 3 prequels, they are really good.

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/star-wars-episode-1-the-phantom-menace/[/quote]

Does Star Wars = Lord of the Rings in Space?