[quote]hastalles wrote:
heavythrower does have a “how do/did you train” thread somewhere I think? I wish I could find it especially as I’m gonna be starting throwing this semester.
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Here you go:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/blog_sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_alpha/arise_heavythrower
[quote]hastalles wrote:
heavythrower does have a “how do/did you train” thread somewhere I think? I wish I could find it especially as I’m gonna be starting throwing this semester.
Misha is ridiculously strong. I’d be interested to hear (experienced people’s) thoughts on the fact that the guy kicks ass at olympic lifting, powerlifting, AND strongman. How the hell do you train for that? Brandon Lilly has been kinda pushing this idea recently that you should just get FUCKING STRONG at everything. I’m not sure what I think of that.[/quote]
I think if you get to elite status in any of the sports the transition between the three would be(relatively) straightforward if you gave it a year or two. I also remember Dan John stating that Highland Games was hugely beneficial for all other strength sport
[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
I think if you get to elite status in any of the sports the transition between the three would be(relatively) straightforward if you gave it a year or two. I also remember Dan John stating that Highland Games was hugely beneficial for all other strength sport
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Throwin stuff freaks me out though. Feels like you’re gonna SNAP your ligaments up.
^ Interesting, I feel exactly the opposite about throwing things. Feels really natural like I can just power all the way through full force, unlike lifting where I have to worry about hyperextending my elbow or jolting the bar out of my hands and onto my throat 
Heavythrower, can you shed some light on this? You were both a thrower and a powerlifter. Did you train for both at the same time? Did they both carryover to each other?
not much pwnisher. depends.
there are guys who threw much better than me that were not impressive in the gym at all, and some were monsters.
dave barron is a good example. he was a top pro on the HG circuit when I was a “super-A” amateur(basically a undeclared pro), guy was maybe a 400lb squatter, 275 clean, 350 bp, maybe. guy was FAST, pretty tall (about 6-3) and technique was beautiful.
other guys like Mike Smith were just freaky strong(he i heard was a legitimate 1000/600/700 geared powerlifter, who had pretty respectable raw numbers too) that made up for a lot of technique flaws.
i did Olympic lifting, Powerlifting, and throwing, and i think both OL and PL complimented throwing, OL more so than PL, but it was not as important as many people think.
size (good throwers are usually taller, bigger framed guys) speed, explosiveness and technique.
there is an amount of strength that needs to be achieved for optimal POTENTIAL for success in sport, but eventually you get to a point of diminishing gains as far as how much of a stud in the weight room you are will transfer to the field.
Dave Barron was a freak, i do not think the majority of people could be as successful as he was on the field while being as relatively “weak” as he was, and most do not need to be as strong as Mike Smith either.
i think that most should strive to have a 500-600 squat, 300-400lb clean, 300-400lb press, and 500-600lb pull, after that they should concentrate on just maintaining strength and making improvements in their sport by technique practice.
not sure if i answered the question…;p;
this is the current gold medalist in the shot put. not freaky muscle wise at all, not compared to most super heavyweight competitive lifters or strongmen.
but he is big(6-8, 310lbs) i think, and very athletic, fast, and has one of the best glides i have seen since udo beyer.
Thanks a ton for the info!
HeavyThrower,
Is the Mike Smith you speak of from Ohio? I think he trained at the gym a few times. If I recall, he is the same guy that broke an arm benching? The numbers you gave sound about right for him. I never realized he was into HG
i think so frank. about 5-10 maybe 6 feet tall, as wide as tall, dark brown/black hair?
i do not know for sure if he was from ohio, but the guys i trained with when i started were mostly from alabama and georgia, and mike was NOT local, he would come “down” to train and compete from time to time from what i heard/remember.
[quote]hastalles wrote:
Thanks a ton for the info![/quote]
your welcome!
[quote]hastalles wrote:
also, heavythrower I hope your surgery goes well! :)[/quote]
thank you, had the surgery 3 weeks ago tomorrow. i had a c4-5 c5-6 c6-7 discectomy and fusion
good job pwnisher, btw, great way to redirect a thread form someone who wants to troll. if more people did it like that instead of fanning the fire, this would be a better board. lol
scroll down.
here is the 200kg hang snatch. unless you have ever worked on pushing your limit strength on the olympic snatch, it is hard to contemplate what a monster fucking lift this was.
trust me, this is BAD ASS.
Hly shit man that’s quite some surgery tehre! Hope you recover fast and can get back to training hard!
[quote]Consul wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I have top comment[/quote]
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I can do shit that you’re not even strong enough to dream of
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Consul wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I have top comment[/quote]
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I can do shit that you’re not even strong enough to dream of[/quote]
Can he dream of getting strong enough to dream of it?
[quote]hastalles wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Consul wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I have top comment[/quote]
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I can do shit that you’re not even strong enough to dream of[/quote]
Can he dream of getting strong enough to dream of it?[/quote]
He needs to dream within a dream… We have to go deeper!
So would this have beat Efferding’s record if he got 6 more lbs?
[quote]Drake37 wrote:
[quote]hastalles wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Consul wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I have top comment[/quote]
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I can do shit that you’re not even strong enough to dream of[/quote]
Can he dream of getting strong enough to dream of it?[/quote]
He needs to dream within a dream… We have to go deeper![/quote]
LOL
