the guys on the bb.com forums make some pretty crazy claims about bcaa mega dosing, and i wanted to get some feedback on what you guys think. Since taking BCAA pre/post WO and before bed I’ve gained about 6-7 lbs (while not changing any other factors of diet/training). But, these guys are using bcaa b/w every meal too and almost everyone who joins the experiment seems to have gotten good gains too.
that being said is there any rational to this or is it a scam?
Use leucine, proven effective and much more cost efficient.
Define megadosing? Im aware of Charles Poliquins protocol which requires around 40grams of BCAAs taken around a workout.
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
Use leucine, proven effective and much more cost efficient.[/quote]
Might I ask why you suggest only one essential AA? Just curious
[quote]02Thief wrote:
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
Use leucine, proven effective and much more cost efficient.[/quote]
Might I ask why you suggest only one essential AA? Just curious[/quote]
MTOR
leucine is the main amino that stimulates protein synthesis.
[quote]02Thief wrote:
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
Use leucine, proven effective and much more cost efficient.[/quote]
Might I ask why you suggest only one essential AA? Just curious[/quote]
It is the best AA.
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
It is the best AA.[/quote]
“It is the best AA in stimulating muscle growth in a cost/dose-effective manner.”
I noticed that there isn’t much feedback on the original question, just everyone suggesting to use leucine and why it is a good choice…
I’ve only experienced good gains from high doses of BCAAs. Mind you I only took it intra-workout, using about 40-50g’s, but I never took it before bed or anything. These were the times when I gained the most quality mass.
From my understanding, BCAAs raise insulin (along with blood AA levels), therefore you only want to use them intra-workout (or post workout).
This is something I am considering changing up myself. Currently I just have some with breakfast lunch and dinner, and whatever is in my Surge and MD peri workout. I felt it was crucial to maintaining muscle while I was losing fat.
I figure I will do something like you are describing when I get back to trying to add mass, ive always heard good things from it.
At what point is it mega-dosing?
[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:
At what point is it mega-dosing? [/quote]
When you exceed superdosing…
lol
megadosing BCAA= Steak
[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:
[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:
At what point is it mega-dosing? [/quote]
When you exceed superdosing…
lol[/quote]
Hahah. On a serious note when I first started reading about ‘mega dosing’ BCAA’s was when Poliquin and CT would use the term referring to 40g per work out.
[quote]Pitbull78 wrote:
I noticed that there isn’t much feedback on the original question, just everyone suggesting to use leucine and why it is a good choice…[/quote]
…And what might that indicate?
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
[quote]Pitbull78 wrote:
I noticed that there isn’t much feedback on the original question, just everyone suggesting to use leucine and why it is a good choice…[/quote]
…And what might that indicate?[/quote]
That theres a lot of hype about Leucine? Its great and I find it effective when used with other aminos or protein sources but for actually building muscle you have to provide more than a stimulus (leucine) you need the building blocks as well. BCAAs might not be all you need but it provides aminos that are actually part of muscle.
[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
[quote]Pitbull78 wrote:
I noticed that there isn’t much feedback on the original question, just everyone suggesting to use leucine and why it is a good choice…[/quote]
…And what might that indicate?[/quote]
That theres a lot of hype about Leucine? Its great and I find it effective when used with other aminos or protein sources but for actually building muscle you have to provide more than a stimulus (leucine) you need the building blocks as well. BCAAs might not be all you need but it provides aminos that are actually part of muscle. [/quote]
Or that money is probably better spent on leucine than BCAA?
I completely agree other aminos are needed, which should be assumed anyway, but there are only two BCAA’s aside from leucine.
I think it’s fairly well established the ‘good’ from BCAA’s mainly comes from it’s leucine content.
There is 9 grms of leucine and 93 grams of protein in 12 oz of steak. Money better spent on steak. Every 3 years… Supp companies rotate to the next amino acid as the new holy grail. Eat meat and get them all and tell them to STFU.
[quote]DJS wrote:
There is 9 grms of leucine and 93 grams of protein in 12 oz of steak. Money better spent on steak. Every 3 years… Supp companies rotate to the next amino acid as the new holy grail. Eat meat and get them all and tell them to STFU.
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That’s way too simplified of a justification.
[quote]DJS wrote:
There is 9 grms of leucine and 93 grams of protein in 12 oz of steak. Money better spent on steak. Every 3 years… Supp companies rotate to the next amino acid as the new holy grail. Eat meat and get them all and tell them to STFU.
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