[quote]Reef wrote:
So McCain criticizes Obama’s lack of experience and picks someone with even less as his VP? If he croaks during office, are you ready to have her as your next president?[/quote]
how do you figure? How does 2 years in the senate trump two years as governor? In fact … 2 years as governor makes her more qualified. He’s literally done NOTHING. And he’s the TOP of their ticket.
Here’s a great local thread on the pick:
I’m not at all a McCain fan.
Barring some un-vetted adverse information, I’ll pull the lever just for Palin. Fishes, flies, guts moose, snowmobiles, turns down billion dollar bridges, shrinks state budgets??
Sounds good to me.
[quote]flyboy51v wrote:
Reef wrote:
So McCain criticizes Obama’s lack of experience and picks someone with even less as his VP? If he croaks during office, are you ready to have her as your next president?
how do you figure? How does 2 years in the senate trump two years as governor? In fact … 2 years as governor makes her more qualified. He’s literally done NOTHING. And he’s the TOP of their ticket.[/quote]
Especially considering as Obama did nothing in his 2 years in the Senate – except campaign for the next office he wanted.
And had never done anything before that either, not in terms of ever running anything or being in charge of anything, except campaigning for office.
Of course, the left says that skill at campaigning for office is proof of sufficient executive skills to be President of the United States, while experience in fact acting as chief executive of a multi-billion-dollar, multi-thousand-employee operation (for example, a state) in no way implies adequate managerial and executive skills. Just for the sake of presenting both positions.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
rainjack wrote:
ron33 wrote:
If Mccain was a lesser choice between,he and W 8 yrs. ago ,i seriously doubt if he will be any better now.Romney would have made much better choice.Of course the same people brought us Ronnie [am i a dem. or repub.]reagan ,danny boy[potato]quayle,and our latest,DUH-BYA.
Even though tricky dick ,had his little scandal he makes this bunch look like class clowns.now their tryin to sell us fishin ,gun totin badass sarah barracuda.Duped Again !
It mst really suck to know that, as horrible as you say these guys were, they all beat the “best” the dems could dig up.
LMAO!!!
I would take Bush for a third term over Obama, McCain, Kerry, Gore or Clinton.[/quote]
I’m with you there.
I’m excited about Palin I have to admit. I think she’s got potential.
Now if I can just make it through the next 2 months without glimpsing Lindsey Graham sucking up after McCain at a press conference … I might just retain enough enthusiasm to vote for the guy.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
flyboy51v wrote:
Reef wrote:
So McCain criticizes Obama’s lack of experience and picks someone with even less as his VP? If he croaks during office, are you ready to have her as your next president?
how do you figure? How does 2 years in the senate trump two years as governor? In fact … 2 years as governor makes her more qualified. He’s literally done NOTHING. And he’s the TOP of their ticket.
Especially considering as Obama did nothing in his 2 years in the Senate – except campaign for the next office he wanted.
And had never done anything before that either, not in terms of ever running anything or being in charge of anything, except campaigning for office.
Of course, the left says that skill at campaigning for office is proof of sufficient executive skills to be President of the United States, while experience in fact acting as chief executive of a multi-billion-dollar, multi-thousand-employee operation (for example, a state) in no way implies adequate managerial and executive skills. Just for the sake of presenting both positions.[/quote]
I just caught Mort Kondracke on Fox saying that Palin is absolutely unqualified but that Barack WAS qualified because “he’s been running for President for years and years.”
I thought he was kidding. Talk about a guy that needs to move to Kansas for a few years and reconnect with his fellow human beings.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Only if Nikita Kruschev were the only other alternative would I spend one calorie even considering a vote for Obama.[/quote]
Why? Obama is every bit the Marxist Kruschev was, but without cool Soviet retro memorabilia.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
<<< Of course, the left says that skill at campaigning for office is proof of sufficient executive skills to be President of the United States, >>>[/quote]
Correction my friend.
The left considers “left-ness” in and of itself as every necessary qualification for any office with the potential of moving the country to the left. To them the high intellectual state and tearful compassion of “left-hood” indicates a complete repertoire of universal skills.
I’m joking by about half.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Why? Obama is every bit the Marxist Kruschev was, but without cool Soviet retro memorabilia.[/quote]
Nice. The other day it was Stalin, now it’s Khrushchev. Gotta love the BS extremists on all sides.
Obama=Khrushchev/Stalin
Bush=Hitler
Our Country=Fucked by extremists
flyboy brings up a point worth emphasizing;
Dems should be VERY worried that Biden will come off as patronizing in the Debate with Palin; at which point she will gut him like one of those Alaskan Moose she’s killed in her life.
Biden has a truly American story of his own to tell, full of enough tragedy to write a book (in addition to a son going to Iraq).
He should play on that.
If he comes off as a pompous, “pat-the-cute-little-lady-on-the-head” Washington insider at his debate with Palin, he’s dead in the water.
Mufasa
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Only if Nikita Kruschev were the only other alternative would I spend one calorie even considering a vote for Obama.
Why? Obama is every bit the Marxist Kruschev was, but without cool Soviet retro memorabilia.[/quote]
I found some images I was really tempted to post, but am exercising restraint =] For now
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Only if Nikita Kruschev were the only other alternative would I spend one calorie even considering a vote for Obama.
Why? Obama is every bit the Marxist Kruschev was, but without cool Soviet retro memorabilia.
I found some images I was really tempted to post, but am exercising restraint =] For now[/quote]
Go for it? This post means nothing without pictures.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
flyboy brings up a point worth emphasizing;
Dems should be VERY worried that Biden will come off as patronizing in the Debate with Palin; at which point she will gut him like one of those Alaskan Moose she’s killed in her life.
Biden has a truly American story of his own to tell, full of enough tragedy to write a book (in addition to a son going to Iraq).
He should play on that.
If he comes off as a pompous, “pat-the-cute-little-lady-on-the-head” Washington insider at his debate with Palin, he’s dead in the water.
Mufasa[/quote]
If Palin gets a bit pissy with Biden it will viewed as endearing feistiness which it would probably be. If Biden gets pissy or condescending with her it will be viewed as arrogant chauvinistic snobbery. A real advantage for her going in.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
<<< Of course, the left says that skill at campaigning for office is proof of sufficient executive skills to be President of the United States, >>>
Correction my friend.
The left considers “left-ness” in and of itself as every necessary qualification for any office with the potential of moving the country to the left. To them the high intellectual state and tearful compassion of “left-hood” indicates a complete repertoire of universal skills.
I’m joking by about half.
[/quote]
I really don’t think you’re joking.
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
Why? Obama is every bit the Marxist Kruschev was, but without cool Soviet retro memorabilia.
Nice. The other day it was Stalin, now it’s Khrushchev. Gotta love the BS extremists on all sides.
Obama=Khrushchev/Stalin
Bush=Hitler
Our Country=Fucked by extremists [/quote]
Because it’s so easy to be in the middle and have no rational thought process. Stuff works or doesn’t work. It’s like being half in favor of gravity.
Agree.
Personal Attacks? = Biden loses.
Comparing and contrasting the complexity of International Politics and National Security with running Wasilla or even Alaska? = Biden at LEAST hold his own.
Mufasa
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
Why? Obama is every bit the Marxist Kruschev was, but without cool Soviet retro memorabilia.
Nice. The other day it was Stalin, now it’s Khrushchev. Gotta love the BS extremists on all sides.
Obama=Khrushchev/Stalin
Bush=Hitler
Our Country=Fucked by extremists [/quote]
PSSSST.
This country was founded on some distinctive principles. Principles that made it bar none the greatest nation in human history. The wish to see those principles preserved is not extreme.
Correctly recognizing that a movement is desirous of redefining those principles in the image of those of their long standing enemies is not extreme. It is patriotic. If you do not like this country as founded that is your right, but don’t try to tell me what Barack Obama stands for is the preservation of those principles. His history, associations and own words say otherwise.
That happens to be the way it is. Support him if you must, but be aware of what you are supporting.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Agree.
Personal Attacks? = Biden loses.
Comparing and contrasting the complexity of International Politics and National Security with running Wasilla or even Alaska? = Biden at LEAST hold his own.
Mufasa[/quote]
Except Biden has done none of that. He has not negotiated treaties, etc, etc. All he has done is sat on committees and whined. He has never run anything.
[quote]pat wrote:
Rocky101 wrote:
I’ll be the first to say MILF!!!1
She is also an admitted pot smoker, which means she is hot in the sack.
I like the way you think…And I like potheads, go figure…I think it was a ballsy move…I hope she is prepared for a shit storm cause she’s gonna get one.
Wouldn’t it be VPILF?[/quote]
damn shes hot! she’s got that sexy librarian thing going on. she can use that to make up for her lack of foreign policy experience. from what i’ve read up on her, i think she’ll handle any shit storm they throw at her.
she might be from a smaller backyard, but it seems like she’s got more backbone than just about another other spineless politician out there
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Except Biden has done none of that. He has not negotiated treaties, etc, etc. All he has done is sat on committees and whined. He has never run anything.[/quote]
But remember, to the left running a successful campaign for public office is the most conclusive proof (unless it’s a non-Democrat doing it) of being top executive material, and Biden has run several fabulously successful campaigns for President as well as successful campaigns for the Senate.
Because he has run campaigns for office – and is a Democrat; if he were not then that experience would be inadequate – he must therefore have the executive skills to be President of the United States of America.
I just don’t understand why you “don’t get it,” if I may borrow that really winning liberal expression.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
One last thing to throw out to you guys:
I think that McCain picked a relatively “attack-proof” Candidate.
Wasilla Website:
http://www.cityofwasilla.com/index.aspx?page=1
So that leaves “personal” attacks; and there the DEMS with lose BIG time.
In other words, Palin can be attacked; but I think that any attack one her with such “Middle America” appeal is bound to back fire.
Thoughts?
Mufasa
Exactly, would you want to pick on a mom who packs a gun? She’s cleaner than Biden or Obama. And what are the feminists going to say, hahaha!
[/quote]
depends on which feminist point of view. one side would see it as women finally taking over so they are supportive of her, a middle type would either not care or would just say, oh cool, go for it.
but on another side they would call her a traitor, sellout, phony, etc etc. those are typically the types that are vegans, want to take the word “men” out of every word, guns are evil, hunting animals is evil.
she pretty much goes against all they stand for. member of nra, former beauty queen, hunts moose, rides snowmobiles, fishes, probably rides motorcycles as well, and is probably a steak and potatoes type.
Biden or anyone else will of course be a fool and try to pick on her, but i dont think she’ll take any crap from anyone.
