Obama: A Chess Master?

Chess Master

“… A chess player of such skill that he/she can usually beat chess experts, who themselves typically can nearly always prevail against most amateurs…”

I think that Obamas latest trip to the Middle East and Europe was a simply brilliant Political Move (barring any major missteps).

Not only did he face head-on what has been a criticism by his Political Opponents; he has made McCain sound like a bitter old man who was outflanked…(…“Well…I voted for the Surge, and Sen. Obama Didn’t”!..“He can go to Iraq because of what I did”!)

It is also obvious that Obama has learned from earlier missteps; there have been few, if any, press conferences or oral pronouncements on his part; he has put out controlled images (like the stills above of him with General Petreus); he has orchestrated images that have him walking with Middle Eastern Leaders…

To tell the truth, I knew he was a brilliant Politician; I just didn’t know HOW brilliant…

Thoughts?

Let’s discuss…

Mufasa

Even though it is bound to happen, do NOT make the assumption that I am “fawning” over Obama or that I think that he will make a great President…

I really have no idea what type of President he will make…

But I do know that he is a brilliant Politician whom has made some shrewd political moves.

Mufasa

I think you overstate his case.

He is in the Middle East because of criticism that he is out of touch with the situation there. His move is defensive and reactive. That doesn’t mean it was necessarily bad - but it wasn’t original or all that canny.

Moreover, Obama isn’t helping his Commander-in-Chief prospects by making a ton of pronouncements about Iraq and Afghanistan prior to going over there, a mistake McCain has been exploiting.

Obama, since maybe the Iowa primaries, has been a reactive politician. McCain hasn’t done much to capitalize on it - I think he is waiting on the respective conventions to take place before he begins to get more aggressive - and yet, Obama should be much further ahead in the polls.

Bolt:

I don’t disagree…but it seems to me that this trip has a lot more DOWNside potential than up for Obama…

In other words, this trip MAY sway a few “undecideds” here and there…but it also has the much greater potential to to make Obama look nieve and foolish among the hardened and experienced Politicians of the Middle East.

So I think that the move was more calculated than just reactive.

I would also reiterate that McCain came off yesterday as neither hard-hitting or strong…but more “irritated”?

Mufasa

If he is as briliant as people say, then why did he announce his positions before he left? In fact, why did he speak out against what we’re doing after only ever visiting once?

Forming one’s opinions based on insufficient knowledge is not brilliant, it’s a sign of naivete.

Yes. Obama is a brilliant politician. The fact that the 2008 election is a blackman’s to lose is proof enough of his cunning. He dazzled, charmed, calculated and sold the “change” idea to an awful lot of people.

But then again, he’s up against a geezer with a Swiss cheese memory that alienates, his base with the liberal stuff he pulls, and the rest by being more aggressive than Bush.

Bottomline, Obama’s has got to be a lying scumbag to come this far.

It’s just posturing…I doubt his sincerity. Hell the only person in recent history who has kept a campaign promise in Clinton, when he tried to get gays into the military; like a gay person could just lie to get in.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
If he is as briliant as people say, then why did he announce his positions before he left? In fact, why did he speak out against what we’re doing after only ever visiting once?

Forming one’s opinions based on insufficient knowledge is not brilliant, it’s a sign of naivete.[/quote]

HH:

I’m confused by what you’re saying…

Can you elaborate a little more?

Mufasa

This is what I think…

I think that the Trip is more to take away some of the Republican’s “ammunition” than necessarily to sway a large number of voters. (Besides giving the campaign some great photo-ops…)

Mufasa

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
If he is as briliant as people say, then why did he announce his positions before he left? In fact, why did he speak out against what we’re doing after only ever visiting once?

Forming one’s opinions based on insufficient knowledge is not brilliant, it’s a sign of naivete.

HH:

I’m confused by what you’re saying…

Can you elaborate a little more?

Mufasa[/quote]

He went on a fact-finding mission and announced his ‘policies’ before he acquired facts. He announced troop drawdowns on a planned withdrawal without consulting those, like Petraeous, who would have to do the drawing down.

Having to live at the whims and wiles of politicians is not a formula for rational success. He plans on raising taxes on capital, while that is what we actually need more of. His plan will cause capital to flee. How does he propose to keep it here? At gunpoint? (See my thread on this wrt Hayek)

He is living proof of the title of Ann Coulter’s book: If Liberals Had Brains, They’d Be Republicans.

As TB has pointed out, he is a naif at best.

The fact of the matter is that Mr. Obama’s trip is nothing more than a “catch up” mission. He is woefully lacking in the foreign policy department, and knows it. Yes, this was intended to take away some of the rights “ammunition” w/r/t this issue, however I think it only highlights his lack thereof.
And as previously mentioned, why would he go in the first place? He has already made up his mind on troop withdrawls and has stated that he was sticking to them no matter what. So, why go? Photo ops, nothing more. Or as Limbaugh so succinctly framed it, “pimping Bush’s ride”.

The surge was a success. Obama opposed it. Period. I now look forward to the tired old drivel from the usual suspects on this forum on why they think the surge was “technically” not a success after all. Good grief…

Never underestimate McCain, but…

[i]John McCain might seem like a long shot. He’s the Republican nominee at a time when the two-term Republican President is wildly unpopular and Republicans are losing elections in perennially Republican districts and the party base isn’t exactly drooling over him. He supported the president’s unpopular efforts to transform Iraq and revamp Social Security; he was against the Bush tax cuts before he was for them. He’s a 71-year-old Washington hand in a change election. And his 46-year-old opponent is a lot better at raising money, delivering speeches, drawing crowds and registering new voters.

Oh, let’s just admit it: John McCain is a long shot. He’s got a heroic personal story, and being white has never hurt a presidential candidate, but on paper 2008 just doesn’t look like his year. And considering what’s happening off paper, it might be time to ask the question the horse-race-loving media are never supposed to ask: Is McCain a no-shot?

Last week, the McCain campaign’s case against Barack Obama went something like this: He’s irresponsible when it comes to Iraq, naive when it comes to Iran, and a big-government liberal when it comes to the economy. But now Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki has more or less endorsed Obama’s plan to withdraw from Iraq, forcing McCain to argue that Maliki didn’t really mean it, and even the Bush administration has accepted a “time horizon” for withdrawal, if not a precise “timetable.” The Bush administration has also engaged in some diplomatic outreach with Iran, just as Obama has recommended, a severe blow to McCain’s efforts to portray Obama’s willingness to talk as appeasement. And on the economy, a TIME/Rockefeller Foundation poll found that 82% of the country supports more federal infrastructure spending designed to create jobs. When big-government liberalism is all the rage, McCain’s courage in opposing water projects or the farm bill becomes less of a selling point.

McCain has struggled to find his voice in this environment. His initial reaction to the foreclosure crisis boiled down to old-fashioned conservative self-reliance, which went over like a lead balloon, and was eventually replaced with a more aggressive plan for government assistance. He has changed or shaded his positions on offshore drilling, the estate tax, ethanol, immigration and a host of other issues. He can’t seem to decide whether to run as a maverick and risk demoralizing a GOP base that already mistrusts him, or run as a conservative and risk alienating swing voters who already miss the John McCain of 2000. And his campaign �?? which already survived a near-death experience in the primary �?? is in seemingly perpetual turmoil.

But McCain is still a compelling figure, and shakeups happen. His real problem is the political environment. He’s a Republican in what is shaping up as a Democratic year. And he’s aligned with Bush in a year of Bush fatigue over the Bush economy. Emory University’s Alan Abramowitz has concocted a formula that has predicted the popular vote winner in 14 of the last 15 elections; it missed 1968, but got the razor-thin margin right. His barometer uses three criteria: the approval rating of the incumbent president, the economic growth rate, and the “time-for-a-change” factor of whether the incumbent’s party has controlled the White House for two terms. McCain’s score is the worst since Jimmy Carter’s in 1980. “History suggests that McCain is toast,” Clive Crook wrote in the Financial Times.

Then again, history also suggests that Democrats don’t blow out Republicans; there hasn’t been a Democratic landslide since Lyndon Johnson in 1964. It’s also unwise to underestimate the hunger of the media for an exciting race. If Obama emerges as a big front-runner, it’s a good bet that the press will air more of McCain’s attacks. And so far, polls have indicated a fairly tight race, usually tilting towards Obama by just a few points. He’s still a relative newcomer in a wartime election, unknown to many Americans. He’s still got his Reverend Wright problem. And during the primaries, even a sizable number of Democrats told pollsters they felt uncomfortable voting for a black man.

But he’s getting to look like a leader this week, comparing withdrawal plans with Maliki, welcoming the Bush administration to the it’s-OK-to-negotiate-with-Iran club, making McCain look like an isolated warmonger. It was one thing when McCain was framing the election as a monumental decision of victory versus surrender; time horizon versus timetable is going to be a tougher sell. Meanwhile, Obama’s campaign has been signing up thousands of new Democratic voters, and shoveling in cash it can use to introduce him to America. He could still foul up the debates, or make a monumental gaffe, or otherwise misplay his strong hand. It’s still possible that something could happen �?? Castro’s death? A Democratic scandal? �?? to shake up the dynamics of the race. In politics, anything’s possible.

That doesn’t mean that anything’s probable. The media will try to preserve the illusion of a toss-up; you’ll keep seeing “Obama Leads, But Voters Have Concerns” headlines. But when Democrats are winning blood-red congressional districts in Mississippi and Louisiana, when the Republican president is down to 28 percent, when the economy is tanking and world affairs keep breaking Obama’s way, it shouldn’t be heresy to recognize that McCain needs an improbable series of breaks. Analysts get paid to analyze, and cable news has airtime to fill, so pundits have an incentive to make politics seem complicated. In the end, though, it’s usually pretty simple. Everyone seems to agree that 2008 is a change election. Which of these guys looks like change?[/i]

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1825337,00.html?imw=Y

That’s how the press portrayed it. The problem is, McCain IS a bitter old man. Obama is shrewd, but if he’s taking steps towards figuring out the military situation in Afghanistan and Iraq, more the better.

Neither McCain nor Obama are going to get us out of either country for a long time, no matter what they say. The lesson of Vietnam has been learned.

I wonder what his plans are for the Iraq-Pakistan border situation.

I don’t know if Obama will be a good or bad President if he wins.

What I can tell you,from the outside looking in,is that there are many countries worldwide asking “Where is our Obama?”,and being seriously impressed with him as a candidate and as a representative for the US on the world stage.

Not that it means anything,in real terms,just an observation.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Neither McCain nor Obama are going to get us out of either country for a long time, no matter what they say. The lesson of Vietnam has been learned. [/quote]

If the lesson of Vietnam had been learned, we wouldn’t be there. You’re talking about the lesson of post-Vietnam. Yeah, we learned that one ok.

He is only perceived as being a sharp politician because of the media fawning all over him. If they would turn a critical eye to him he wouldn’t look like a political genius anymore.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Neither McCain nor Obama are going to get us out of either country for a long time, no matter what they say. The lesson of Vietnam has been learned.

Beowolf wrote:
If the lesson of Vietnam had been learned, we wouldn’t be there. You’re talking about the lesson of post-Vietnam. Yeah, we learned that one ok.[/quote]

Here is the lesson learned from Vietnam, and reinforced in Iraq. The American opinion is highly manipulated by marketing.

There were problems with both, definitely. But when Al-Qaeda said that America has no stomach for war, they were right.

In Vietnam, we never lost a battle. Iraq was even more successful. We won that war in weeks. (And the fact that people actually think this is still a war is again proof of marketing.)

Back to the original subject. The single biggest reason for Obama to go to Iraq is to keep his face in the news. Again marketing. Obama has been in the news quite a bit, and is becoming more familiar to the people.

Right now McCain is being ignored by the media for the most part. (Even having op-ed pieces being rejected.) And that will hurt him more then anything.

[quote]The Mage wrote:
The American opinion is highly manipulated by marketing.
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The best illustration of this being the war itself.