[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
If senile Mcain wins and dies in two years, the world will have a creationist, ex beauty pageant winner queen.
Seems like a worthy heir to Bush.[/quote]
She is nothing like Bush. But I love the closed minded prejudice you have going. Speaks well of your objectivity.
[quote]JoeG254 wrote:
hedo wrote:
McCain is rattling Obama big time. Obama gave a big speech last night didn’t he? MCain rattled him before and stole the spotlight after. He’s getting little or no bounce after his own convention. That’s excellent strategy on the RNC side.
Number one reason I thought this was a goodtactic.
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x2- though weird avatar.
[quote]RebornTN wrote:
JoeG254 wrote:
hedo wrote:
McCain is rattling Obama big time. Obama gave a big speech last night didn’t he? MCain rattled him before and stole the spotlight after. He’s getting little or no bounce after his own convention. That’s excellent strategy on the RNC side.
Number one reason I thought this was a good tactic.
x2- though weird avatar.[/quote]
Heh, it’s from an episode of South park.
We already have the first reports questioning her judgment with regard to accepting this nomination with a 4 month old down syndrome baby at home.
We are about to be treated to scathing questions related to everything from that to breast feeding, to her hen pecked husband, to getting pregnant so late with all the birth control and abortion issues tied to that and every other vaguely similar thing imaginable. That is a promise.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
If senile Mcain wins and dies in two years, the world will have a creationist, ex beauty pageant winner queen.
Seems like a worthy heir to Bush.[/quote]
Why don’t you like pretty girls?
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
We are about to be treated to scathing questions related to everything from that to breast feeding, to her hen pecked husband, to getting pregnant so late with all the birth control and abortion issues tied to that and every other vaguely similar thing imaginable. That is a promise.[/quote]
That’s good for McCain, then. Especially after all the praise and accolades piled on Hillary for her “strength and conviction”. Palin should WELCOME challenges like this one as they can only help her, really. I think her situation is likely to garner at least a little sympathy, and besides that, while the pro-abortion feminist support might be wide, I seriously doubt that it is quite as deep amongst the American public as the democrats think.
It’s still too early to know if this pick is enough to get me to vote for the McCain ticket, but it is good enough to get me to at least pay more attention.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
You are missing the point that I actually like you and it would not make me happy to think of you as dumb as a rock.[/quote]
Ah, goody. I was afraid my big cuddly avatar wasn’t working it’s magic anymore.
Fully agree.
Presidents should, anyway, surround themselves with the brightest and the best on a host of subjects. No one is experienced in everything, and I’d favor someone who knows this and is willing to build himself a great team, rather than someone who thinks he knows everything and brings on a bunch of yes man.
I’m talking in generalities, I’m not saying either candidate would or wouldn’t do this.
My point, to reiterate, is that neither Palin nor Obama have that much relevant experience, but I’ve seen no one say “while lacking essential experience let’s not take from the experience he does in fact have” when talking about Obama. That’s all.
In fact, if I had to pick one thing that disappoints me about her, it’s that she’s a creationist and supports teaching it in school alongside evolution.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
If senile Mcain wins and dies in two years, the world will have a creationist, ex beauty pageant winner queen.
Seems like a worthy heir to Bush.
She is nothing like Bush. But I love the closed minded prejudice you have going. Speaks well of your objectivity. [/quote]
comic gold.
[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
Are you guys insane? This is one of the best political moves I’ve ever seen. Palin is every bit the conservative that McCain isn’t. She graduated from the fucking University of Idaho.
Spare the fire until you do some research on this chick. She’s pro-life. She’s at the forefront of telling the feds to fuck off over drilling in Alaska. She’s a serious gun owner. She’s the real deal.
I remember my wife asking me if I would break down and vote McCain if he picked the proper VP. I told her there was NO ONE good enough. Now I’m actually thinking I might have been wrong. Jeez, I can only imagine 4 years of wishing McCain would kick.[/quote]
This is exactly how I feel. McCain can’t lose with her on the ticket. I can hardly wait to watch her debate Biden. Now I won’t feel so bad voting for McCain in November!
McCain/Palin 08!
This woman represents the heart and soul of our magnificent country: Moral and upright, believing in God and country, considers life sacred, profound love of family, athlete (I bet she’d kick Obama’s ass at basketball).
Watch out Washington DC! A truly moral person, who takes no shit and no prisoners, is marching in and soon!!
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
If senile Mcain wins and dies in two years, the world will have a creationist, ex beauty pageant winner queen.
Seems like a worthy heir to Bush.
She is nothing like Bush. But I love the closed minded prejudice you have going. Speaks well of your objectivity.
comic gold.[/quote]
Oooooh - lookie who decided to pop in. Please wow us with your brilliance.
[quote]pookie wrote:
<<< Presidents should, anyway, surround themselves with the brightest and the best on a host of subjects. No one is experienced in everything, and I’d favor someone who knows this and is willing to build himself a great team, rather than someone who thinks he knows everything and brings on a bunch of yes man. >>>[/quote]
That’s a fair point and the only thing that saved Bill Clinton from utter collapse.
However, the definition of “great team” is open to interpretation.
From another angle along the experience lines, the Obama attack squad is going to have to be careful about hammering her on that front for fear of unintentionally making the case against their own candidate.
[quote]MrRezister wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
We are about to be treated to scathing questions related to everything from that to breast feeding, to her hen pecked husband, to getting pregnant so late with all the birth control and abortion issues tied to that and every other vaguely similar thing imaginable. That is a promise.
That’s good for McCain, then. Especially after all the praise and accolades piled on Hillary for her “strength and conviction”. Palin should WELCOME challenges like this one as they can only help her, really.
I think her situation is likely to garner at least a little sympathy, and besides that, while the pro-abortion feminist support might be wide, I seriously doubt that it is quite as deep amongst the American public as the democrats think.
It’s still too early to know if this pick is enough to get me to vote for the McCain ticket, but it is good enough to get me to at least pay more attention.[/quote]
She will be pounded mercilessly by the mainstream media just like Clarence Thomas was. They don’t really want minorities or women in positions of power unless they are radical leftists.
I suspect you have a point about the depth of the pro-abortion sentiment. The number for whom that is the overarching issue is probably less than gets reported.
However, all conservatives thinking about making a principled 3rd party vote better think long and hard. This guy can inflict damage with his Supreme Court appointments alone, especially with the Dems owning the committees, that could take a generation to recover from if ever.
Those appointments are for LIFE and it’s a pretty good bet that the leftists will have the Judiciary Committee and the majority in the senate at large. Remember Robert Bork, who was eminently qualified and failed the confirmation process exactly because he believed in the constitution.
[quote]Rocky101 wrote:
I’ll be the first to say MILF!!!1
She is also an admitted pot smoker, which means she is hot in the sack.[/quote]
I like the way you think…And I like potheads, go figure…I think it was a ballsy move…I hope she is prepared for a shit storm cause she’s gonna get one.
Wouldn’t it be VPILF?
Regardless of what McCain says his position is this week, and in spite of his choosing what appears to be a genuine Conservative Vice, the SCOTUS situation is STILL the strongest argument in favor of voting for McCain over Obama. That’s a little depressing.
[quote]MrRezister wrote:
However, all conservatives thinking about making a principled 3rd party vote better think long and hard. This guy can inflict damage with his Supreme Court appointments alone, especially with the Dems owning the committees, that could take a generation to recover from if ever.
Regardless of what McCain says his position is this week, and in spite of his choosing what appears to be a genuine Conservative Vice, the SCOTUS situation is STILL the strongest argument in favor of voting for McCain over Obama. That’s a little depressing.[/quote]
I’m tellin ya!!!
Ross Perot handed the Whitehouse to Bill Clinton in “92”. People forget that. This is not the year for conscientious objection as much as I understand that point of view and yes it IS depressing.
Just some things to consider… depending on your view of Palin as pick:
McCain turns 72 today and would be halfway to 73 if elected and sworn in on January 20. That would make him the oldest first-term President ever, two years older than Ronald Reagan. He has survived four skin cancers, including one in 2000 that was classified as Stage IIa.
He’s two years older than his father was when he died suddenly of a heart attack at 70. He is 11 years older than his grandfather was when he died suddenly of a heart attack at age 61.
Also, 22% of Americans over 70 are affected by mild cognitive impairment, while 13% of Americans over 65 have Alzheimer’s. Ronald Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s at age 83, but early signs were evident during his first term. Margaret Thatcher developed dementia at age 75.
McCain displays 6 of the 10 warning signs of Alzheimer’s, including his inability to remember recent facts like the number of homes he owns, the $1M lawsuit he filed in 1990, etc.
Good pick, but not without its risks.
The base really likes her.
Women really like her, including a few that feel scorned by the Democratic nominee.
The “experience” card is a concern, but has a built in advantage of forcing Obama and Biden to complain about it - which makes them look, well, silly. The GOP can blunt the criticism by noting it is executive experience - Obama can’t blunt the criticism of his lack of experience.
Palin negotiated the largest construction project in North America and sued the federal government in her short tenure. Obama voted “present” while a state legislator and has been running for President during his term as a US Senator.
I think concerns over Palin’s experience are legitimate, but whatever issue is raised about it nags similar or worse concerns about the top of the ticket on the other side.
Palin played in a championship basketball game with a broken foot. Obama is nursing a daddy-complex psychodrama that he hopes winning the Presidency will cure. Advantage: Palin (though they aren’t running against one another technically, but will be compared to one another).
Palin hunts, fishes, rides snowmobiles, and is a lifetime member of the NRA. Obama is more into “The View” and is the first metrosexual candidate in history. Advantage: Palin.
A good pick, I think - a bold one.
Another savvy move of note - the day after Obama gave his speech at the DNC, all the air has been let out of that event with the timely announcement of Palin. Smart tactic.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
McCain displays 6 of the 10 warning signs of Alzheimer’s, including his inability to remember recent facts like the number of homes he owns, the $1M lawsuit he filed in 1990, etc.[/quote]
Iron/Mental Dwarf,
So since Obama thinks we have 57 states in the Union, he might be a candidate for dementia?
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Generally agree with your points, but Kerry and Edwards were very arguably both “metrosexual” as well.