[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
A_l3x wrote:
^^ heres a few
Emelianenko Fedor vs Hong-Man Choi
BROCK LESNAR V FRANK MIR
Mirko Cro Cop vs Bob Sapp
That’s good. I don’t follow this sport closely but I’m familiar with the examples you posted. You can post more if you’d like.
The guy who fought Fedor was clumsy. You can tell just by the way he moved. He probably has acromegaly or something of that nature, and obviously isn’t the best example of this trend. People who are clumsy can’t harness their own strength and power correctly.
In Lesnar vs. Mir, which I did watch in its entirety, Lesnar completely dominated the fight until Mir managed to pull off the lucky submission. Here’s the scoop on submissions: If you have to rely on them to save your ass, you are going to get raped more often than not. The vast majority of submission attempts fail (that’s a statistical fact, not my opinion). Submission is the most over-rated aspect of any fighter’s ability. It is basically completely unnecessary and that’s why most guys who specialize in it are smaller. Only the little guys love to pull all the bullshit karate moves. That stuff practically never works the way it’s supposed to in a real fight, it only works in practice. Lesnar basically won that fight, in my opinion. Another minute or two and Mir would have been knocked out. He got very lucky.
Bob Sapp is a huge and ferocious negro, but he has a fairly weak chin. Like many of his tribe, he comes out aggressively but goes downhill fast once his opponents start landing a few hits on him. Cro Cop is very agile, swift, and quite strong for his size, so he was able to keep up with Bob. I attribute his victory to physical prowess, not technical ability.
But speaking of Sapp, didn’t he nearly kill some experienced Pride fighters? I don’t even know what the nicknames stand for, but someone said he gave Nog (Nogeira) a good pounding.
As I said, a weak chin will take anyone down, no matter how big they are. But a big man with a decent chin has the advantage in any fight, regardless of how technically proficient his opponent is.
“all of that bullshit leaves your head in 2 seconds flat when someone punches you in the face” is a ridiculous assumption. That’s why fighters train for months on end genius, so it’s not a “shock” when they get punched in the face. That’s also why there’s cornermen and gameplans.
I watch the fights and I see the expressions on their faces. I see how they come out looking as hard as bulldogs and then by the end of the fight, either one or both of them turn into puppies. I’ve seen it time and again. You are promoting a piece of mythology that makes fighting seem a lot more complex than it is. 98% of fighting comes down to physics and attitude. Attitude is something that people are born with. You don’t develop it in training. But naturally, “professionals” and the organizations who sponsor them always have a vested interest in making things look harder than they seem.
It’s true with doctors, lawyers, accountants, and yes, brawlers, too.
"It doesnt matter how much you can bench if you don’t know how to escape from side control. "
Lol, I’m sorry, but “side control” is a joke. It’s largely an invented concept, much like all that “ground guard” bullshit. Some asshole got knocked onto his back in training one day and put his legs around his opponent, and presto! The “guard” was born. Because nobody had ever done that before in a fight.
For this reason, I love listening to the commentary on UFC. These guy know all the terms, and they’re paid to endorse these phoney concepts of technical proficiency. Whenever Joe Rogan yells, “Oh no, It’s looking pretty for [insert fighter], he’s in an arm bar!” I know that 8 out of 10 times, the guy who is “trapped” is going to break free in about 3 seconds. I keep an informal count of this in my head. It’s funny to see how wrong they are with their predictions.
Don’t you people get it? It’s all marketing. There is no such thing as “side control”. There is no such thing as a “guard”. All there is is fists in your face.[/quote]
again, there are kernels of truth here. but the truth is too littered with meaningless opinion and some wrong conclusions. but again, i can’t reject it in its entirety.
