Marin Vlahovic, Croatian PLer

[quote]jumper wrote:
marinvlahovic wrote:
Fake name bullshit. Ok. And for your information you are a true nazi because you are proud of kicking down doors in Irak, a country wich has a civilazation much older and more culturale the yours. Ever heard of Mesopotamia? So you are a Nazi. Find yourself a civilian or an Iraki women to have fun, raping and torturing. Your no soldier. Your just a coward wearing 100 000 dollars worth equipment, bulling civilians and hiding behind tanks.

For your info, I never raped or tortured women and I only kicked in doors of known terrorists. I never bullied anyone and went to that country to help and did. As a matter of fact my favorite memory is the gratitude I recieved from the Kurdish families who regarded us a saviors from genocide.

Working with the peshmerga, I came to know from their storys of Halabja, genocide, and brutal torture from Saddam that it was a just and humanitarian war. Just ask any Kurdish person, they wouldn’t be there if it wasn’t for us. But you don’t want to hear that part do you. Ironic I am being called brutal by a Nazi facist.
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I am not a Nazi you poor gifted misguided american person. I am very liberal, and demokratic unlike you. And please dont talk about Americas and your personal involvment in Irak , cause tears are running from my eyes. Yeah, real humanitarian action. Why dont you save people in Africa then? Not so much oil there?! You are a hiprocat, hiding behind your flag, normal americans despise rednecks like you.

I would just like to point out two very important facts.

World War II was about Japan, Germany and Italy pursuing World Domination through force. Croatia sided with Germany. I sorry I do not consider World Domination and genocide for any reason noble. That is killing for personal gain. Killing for more land, money and natural resources. Killing someone of another race or ethinicity for any reason will never be justiable at any point of any countrie’s history.

The current Iraqi War is the American response to a terrorist attack on American soil. In response Americans tracked down who in their opinion was supporting these terrorist groups and a future terrorist threat. We are trying to create a Democratic Government that can support itself to replace them. This is a political viewpoint that was supported by several other nations.

Finally I am an AMERICAN REDNECK through and through. I am very proud of that. It is my heritage. You are proud of being Croatian. Dont attack people based on a different set of beliefs.

[quote]TCMbuna wrote:
I would just like to point out two very important facts.

World War II was about Japan, Germany and Italy pursuing World Domination through force. Croatia sided with Germany. I sorry I do not consider World Domination and genocide for any reason noble. That is killing for personal gain. Killing for more land, money and natural resources. Killing someone of another race or ethinicity for any reason will never be justiable at any point of any countrie’s history.

The current Iraqi War is the American response to a terrorist attack on American soil. In response Americans tracked down who in their opinion was supporting these terrorist groups and a future terrorist threat. We are trying to create a Democratic Government that can support itself to replace them. This is a political viewpoint that was supported by several other nations.

Finally I am an AMERICAN REDNECK through and through. I am very proud of that. It is my heritage. You are proud of being Croatian. Dont attack people based on a different set of beliefs.[/quote]

You are right in some points, but things arent so white and black, bad and good.They are mainly bad, on all sides, its the problem of human nature, at that is basicly my opinion. I have my own opinion about 11.9. but this is not the place to discuss that subject. I agree that I shoud not attack anyone on beliefs, but in this case I was only responding to a variety of inslults based on every possible prejudice by Mr. Jumper.

I dont think that about every , even most americans. I judge people by their actions, and I consider myself a humanist. I try to practice that kind of thinking in real life. If I insulted you I apologise. My debate is with jumper 8 co and I am adressing my posts mainly to answer their lies and insults. Take care!

Marin,

When you are in a debate with someone, attack their comments, not them as a person. That’s what has gotten you in trouble with several other people. You get frustrated and make general comments that insult many people.

Anyways, I don’t think you have a chance of winning the debate anyways. Jumper has made a fool out of you, and you have lost my respect + many others I’m sure.

Well thats your opinion wich you made because he is your countryman and I had this debate at an american forum, so your votes are of course not impartial. As far as the all debate, jumper used lies and insultes. He first tried to convince people that I am Luburic, then took one my statement wich was clearly sad as a provocation to him and used to inuslt me, and make look lake a nazi , radical…

He didnt win anything, and he coudnt win, but if judges are mostly Bush sympatizing americans, of cours I woudnt have chance in such a stupid arguement.

You dont have nothing better to do , then copy paste my messages all around the net?!
And when you do that dont censure them. After “over 350 is a sign of kilograms you hore”. And my answers on youtube war sent to people like you.

OK, to original topic. You said you were involved into MMA for some time.

Were you also powerlifting at that time?
What was your typical training day in that period like? I’m not interested in specifics, just general info.

Thanks

[quote]Hrastnik wrote:
OK, to original topic. You said you were involved into MMA for some time.

Were you also powerlifting at that time?
What was your typical training day in that period like? I’m not interested in specifics, just general info.

Thanks[/quote]

No, at that time I was doing completly different training and now I think I it was a mistake. I runned every day for at least 6 miles, then had boxing lessons, and in the evening sparings. I lost more then 50 pounds in that period. I did no weight training and my nutrition was based on protein shakes. I becomed much quicker and gained agility but I lost my natural power and strenght in big percentage.

I’m hardly a great supporter of Bush but constant ad hominem attacks and serious baiting is hardly necessary. You’ll get much mroe respect arguing the point than what you just did with jumper. And no, I’m not American

This one is a classic.

[quote]marinvlahovic wrote:
Fake name bullshit. Ok. And for your information you are a true nazi because you are proud of kicking down doors in Irak, a country wich has a civilazation much older and more culturale the yours. Ever heard of Mesopotamia? So you are a Nazi. Find yourself a civilian or an Iraki women to have fun, raping and torturing. Your no soldier. Your just a coward wearing 100 000 dollars worth equipment, bulling civilians and hiding behind tanks. [/quote]

marinvlahovic fuck you!

My arguments were with some of you and I used sometimes wrong statements to respond to insults, lies, and half thruths. Its real inteligent and brawe to tell someone “fuck you” on the internet forum.

I shall ignore further stupid provocations from morons and respond only to a informational questions regarding training, nutrition… I take a lot of blame for all of that but I wish to continue this thread now in a normal tone.

I’m not American

EDIT: Do you even know who Hitler is? In what way could Bush possibly be worse?

I know the all history of the second world war, and I know how people like Hitler come to the surface, partialy because of U.S.A. America was a big sponzor of Hitlers Germany, just like it sponsored Sadam, they do that untill things get out of hand.

Bush can be considered worse only in the sense that his only goal is to fullfeel the wishes of his industry and companies while Hitler is simply a complete madman with only goal to kill all jews, make arian race, and spread Germany as an empire worldwide.

[quote]marinvlahovic wrote:
I know the all history of the second world war, and I know how people like Hitler come to the surface, partialy because of U.S.A. America was a big sponzor of Hitlers Germany, just like it sponsored Sadam, they do that untill things get out of hand.

Bush can be considered worse only in the sense that his only goal is to fullfeel the wishes of his industry and companies while Hitler is simply a complete madman with only goal to kill all jews, make arian race, and spread Germany as an empire worldwide.[/quote]

Yeah! George Bush kills innocent people because of thier race and wants to take over the hole world…

[quote]n3wb wrote:
marinvlahovic wrote:
I know the all history of the second world war, and I know how people like Hitler come to the surface, partialy because of U.S.A. America was a big sponzor of Hitlers Germany, just like it sponsored Sadam, they do that untill things get out of hand.

Bush can be considered worse only in the sense that his only goal is to fullfeel the wishes of his industry and companies while Hitler is simply a complete madman with only goal to kill all jews, make arian race, and spread Germany as an empire worldwide.

Yeah! George Bush kills innocent people because of thier race and wants to take over the hole world…

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No, he kills for money, for the benefit of his friends and his family. And he uses the poor american class, latins, afroamericans and others to do this job, while rich anglosaksons enjoy the comfort of his economic sistem.

Marin,

What do you think of the conjugate style of training?

[quote]marinvlahovic wrote:
n3wb wrote:
marinvlahovic wrote:
I know the all history of the second world war, and I know how people like Hitler come to the surface, partialy because of U.S.A. America was a big sponzor of Hitlers Germany, just like it sponsored Sadam, they do that untill things get out of hand.

Bush can be considered worse only in the sense that his only goal is to fullfeel the wishes of his industry and companies while Hitler is simply a complete madman with only goal to kill all jews, make arian race, and spread Germany as an empire worldwide.

Yeah! George Bush kills innocent people because of thier race and wants to take over the hole world…

No, he kills for money, for the benefit of his friends and his family. And he uses the poor american class, latins, afroamericans and others to do this job, while rich anglosaksons enjoy the comfort of his economic sistem.

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So the American military is all poor, latinos or african-americans?
Funny, I don’t fit in that category. Are they also the ones that rape and torture Iraqies like you said I did? Last I checked we were an all vounteer force from all walks of life; economic, cultural, and racial, I guess that changed, you would know better than me, you are the genius here.

Funny, in my last squad we were all white except for one hispanic soldier, and in my platoon we had 3 hispanic soldiers and no african american soldiers, most of us came from different economic backgrounds and most of us joined for patriotic reasons. Things must have changed since I got out, 3 years ago, without anyone knowing, but you, the genius, Marin.

Did Bush start drafting minorities without anybody in America knowing? How do you get all of this information? Oh I forgot, you have a 148 IQ. That must be how you figured out Bush kills for money too, you are so smart, how did we all miss it! Everyone knew how poor the Bush family was before Iraq so he had to have done it for the money. I guess he didn’t have enough money to put the girls through college after selling the Texas Rangers, so he had to divise a scheme to frame Bin Laden for 9/11 and then invade Iraq to make more money because he and his friends just didn’t make enough to pay the light bill in Crawford, Texas. You are so smart Marin, I was wrong about you, you are trully intellectually elite!

You said you have your own theories about 9/11, would you please enlighten us with your devine knowledge once more with your grand theory on this event, please, we are all so stupid and you are so smart.

On the topic of training Marin, why do you do the bottom half-partials in a bench shirt with a spotter helping? Doesn’t a bench shirt take the bottom end strength out of the lift? Isn’t that why most shirt pressers do top end work?

So if the shirt takes the bottom end strength out of the lift, why would you do bottom half partials in a shirt, with a spotter doing rack pulls behind you? Why wouldn’t you just take a whole lot of weight off and do it right? Does the shirt need a workout too? That must be it, doing bottom half partials must strengthens the bench shirt! How did we miss it?

Marin said,
“I shall ignore further stupid provocations from morons and respond only to a informational questions regarding training, nutrition… I take a lot of blame for all of that but I wish to continue this thread now in a normal tone.”

It doesn’t take a 148 I.Q. to figure out who the moron is in this thread. On a training note, I would also like to know what you think about the conjugate method, Marin?