Manorexia

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[quote]comfortablynumb wrote:
this whole mess about wanting to acheive what the “normal american chicks” want is ridiculous. I walked into a store the other day looking for some jeans and I couldnt tell the guys side from the girls side. that should tell you about the “normal american chicks”. I left that store rather quickly.[/quote]

I’ve seen that a lot lately as well. I walked into a Structure store (clothing) a while back looking for a blue jean jacket. Oh, they had some alright, but I don’t think the faux fur puffy collar and ultra faded denim was the look I was going for…at least not without eye shadow. I guess mentioning that they don’t have any sizes larger than “XL” (which was more like a small) is a wasted effort. I couldn’t tell where the panties ended and the men’s dress shirts began. I was lost in a sea of trendy blues and fashionable pinks. I struggled for air but received nothing but Calvin Klein body spray (for men and women) back in return. Luckily the big breasted floor attendant snapped me back to reality with “Sir, I don’t think we carry that size”. To this day I shiver whenever I pass the place.

The general clothing scene has become ambiguous at best and there are kids actually dressing like they do on those gay ass Old Navy commercials…on purpose. If my mom would have brought home some sky blue cargo pants when I was in high school, I would have been forced to run away from home just to avoid getting strung up to a flag pole by the hood of the matching pullover. Can a brother just get a damned blue jean jacket anymore? A simple freaking blue jean jacket!?

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[quote]michaelv wrote:
Alright fine, I concede. Point made. Message received. I’m not worthy of this site because my goal isn’t to be the most massive throbbing gob of muscle man has ever seen. [/quote]

This statement was gay. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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[quote]michaelv wrote:
I said, “PUSH THROUGH THIS SHIT MOTHERFUCKER!” And I did. In fact, my next rep was stronger and more explosive. I got all 4x6 reps in. And next week, I’ll try it again with more weight! Weee… Bastard manorexic defying our freakin stereotypes![/quote]

One of the Manorexics is trying to mess with my pre-conceived steroetype. Somebody stop him!!! lol. You’re feisty for a little fella, aren’t you?

I actually wasn’t even talking about you specifically, Michaelv, so I don’t see how I could have put words in your mouth. From the posts of yours that I have read, I got the feeling that you train hard, and I’m glad you confirmed that. I have worked out with guys who weigh 185lbs and throw around a lot more weight than I do. Their power to weight ratios are astounding. I have nothing but respect for them.

I was more referring to the Poindexter who comes here and says dumb shit like “I don’t want to get too big. I just want to workout twice a week and have a build like this:”

http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/477013.1089979939858.Kaseycarblue.JPG

I have worked out with people who have said this sort of crap before. They will smash through three sets, but when I say “Man, that kicked ass. Let’s up the weight a bit”, guess what they say? “I’d better not. I don’t want to get too big”. This sort of person has not even considered what they want to achieve, or how to go about it. They firmly believe that you get to be half as big as Paul Dillet by putting in a quarter of the effort.

Also, for the record, I don’t even consider you a Manorexic. The fact that you go to the gym, train hard, and know what 4x6 means, actually counts you out in my books. Sorry to disappoint!

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I really don’t see the point to this argument. Even if this site is filled with manorexics you will never see an article by Chad Waterbury, CT, or Dave Tate on how to prevent from getting “too big”.

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Thanks Massif, much appreciated. You’re right, I misread your post, and you’re also right, that’s a wuss attitude.

Sorry, but I’m still laughing at ProfX’s post. He cracks me up.

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The Prof says some funny shit, and from what I’ve seen, its usually spot on. This case was no exception. That quote was very gay.

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Although my goal is to get nasty huge, I think we should all remember that it is not everyone’s goal. Every second article I read by Shugart or TC even says “its also about looking good nekkid”. You are not going to look good nekkid if you are 6 foot, 175lbs and 15% body fat, so don’t even ask about cutting up.

There are hundreds of reasons why people would not want to weigh 265lbs, although I personally can’t think of any (joke). I would argue, though, that on this site you will find the most effective diets and training programs either build muscle, or to cut fat while retaining mucsle, so the looking good nekkid part obviously fits in here.

Personally, if you are 6 foot, 175lbs and ripped, I would argue that you need an Elvis-style hamburger, deep-fried and wrapped in bacon. That’s just me though :slight_smile: Please don’t be sending me any pictures to argue otherwise.

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PX:

You know what buddy, I can afford to be self-righteous. I’m completely secure in the contributions I’ve made here. Can you say the same?

What did it accomplish to rag on this guy? Do you feel better now that he knows the amazing work you did? That’s got to a bitch of an inferiority complex.

And we come to the root. No, I really don’t have a problem with that. Another poster already summed succinctly: to each his own!

And don’t patronize me about what this place used to be. I’ve been here longer than you.

DI

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[quote]KnightRT wrote:

And don’t patronize me about what this place used to be. I’ve been here longer than you.

DI[/quote]

If you really want to pull rank, I was one of the first to contribute on this board. The archives erased years of posts I have had on here. I first logged on while still in school my freshman year. For about 2 years, until this past year, I backed off from posting which may be the only reason you think you have been here longer than me. You can probably get varification for that from people like Mufassa who has also been here about as long. I am sure even the MODs could attest to that.

[quote]PX:

You know what buddy, I can afford to be self-righteous. I’m completely secure in the contributions I’ve made here. Can you say the same?
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Yes, I can.

The guy in question seems to be fine with it and is enjoying himself. How are you missing that? I don’t have an inferiority complex. I call it like I see it. I always have. I don’t only do it here, I respond near the same way (minus some profanity) in my everyday life. My patients seem to like me for it so why would I need to change simply because it bothers the testosterone-challenged?

It would seem that I am not alone in being pissed that this site seems to be falling in hardcore attitude since the incoming of more feminine posters. Perhaps it is your outlook that needs to change. Anyone not here for bodybuilding, powerlifting or sports specific performance should probably find a new forum. I hear Men’s Health needs some new members.

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[quote]Massif wrote:
The Prof says some funny shit, and from what I’ve seen, its usually spot on. This case was no exception. That quote was very gay.[/quote]

It depends on what you do with your big throbbing mass of muscle…

Actually, now that I read it again, it does sound a little gay, but that had not even entered my mind until the distinguished Professor decided to go there. Guess it depends on your perspective. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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The purpose of ragging on someone? To get a positive confirmation of their dedication. As you can see Knight, It worked.

Me and Prof.X have posted a lot on the same topics, and are generaly like minded on the subject of body composition. If you want to change your body comp. you should start by building muscle. Muscle is what burns the calories and lifting is what builds muscle.It also creates the oxygen debt that kicks up the metabolism and burns fat.

So, before you start wanting to burn fat, you better build some muscle.To build that muscle you have to hit some serious weight,eat some serious food,and make some serious life changes(i’m not even going to use the word style).So yes we are pretty fucking serious.Some would say Hardcore.I would consider that a compliment.

This will facilitate any other endeavors you may wish to undertake,like getting the Oh so covetted sixpack, or the wicked cool tricep cut. Or maybee your goals are higher. Good. Because with a strong foundation you can keep going as far as your imagination can take you.Instead of building a house of cards We want to build a superstructure.Screw that superficial fascade of fitness.I want limbs of steel jutting forth from a concrete foundation of fact.

As for the territorial pissing, I started wrestling when I was 10(a little late I suppose), participated in the junior Olympics at 11, and started training for B.U.D.S. at 13. HAHA! beat that!

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[quote]michaelv wrote:
I guarantee you a 6’ 175lb guy with 10% bodyfat, who has been working on some quality muscle, does not look “average”.
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What exactly do you consider to be average? Average weight-trainer or average non-weight-trainer? One of my best friends lived with an All-American 800m runner (who lifted pretty frequently)…he was 6’1" and by NCAA finals 180lb, under 10% bf, and you could see his ribs, collarbone and shoulder blades. Flat abs, but looked sick. You example #s aren’t too far from his.

[quote]michaelv wrote:
I’m talking more Pierce Brosnan than Pouty Frat Boy. More Will Smith Ali than Fresh Prince.
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I don’t know how tall Will Smith is, but he said during Ali he was about 225-230, he was playing a heavyweight.

As for not fitting in clothes, it’s called “alterations.” I havta get all my dress shirts tapered (17" neck on a 180lb body), believe me it’s not a tragedy and not expensive at all. And you’re a long ways away from having to worry about that.

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[quote]mindeffer01 wrote:
and started training for B.U.D.S. at 13. HAHA! beat that![/quote]

How’s that going?

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I am a seventeen year old novice weight trainer who discovered T-Mag about two and a half months ago. Since then, I have been training as hard as I can three times a week. I eat every hour and a half. I sleep as much as my busy schedule possibly allows.

I started training 10 weeks ago at 130 pounds. I knew that I needed concrete goals from the outset; I couldn’t just say “I want to have burly specimens of livestock cowering in shame”. Instead, I said, “I am going to do whatever it takes to get to 150 pounds.” I hit that last week, and so I have bumped up the goal to 170. I would be overjoyed if I tripped betweeen sets of deadlifts and fell into a big ole puddle of hyooge, but I think that setting attainable goals and then working as hard as you fucking can to achieve them will ultimately bring more progress. I wonder if Professor X would be the slab of beef he is today if he hadn’t been able to stand next to his cousin at 185 and say “That felt fucking good. I wonder if I can hit 195?”

I think that if you set a goal and train hard, then you can reach it. While the average person calls it a day when they hit their goal, a T-man merely calls it a good start.

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NateN,
Actualy it didn’t turn out too well.I was in a realy nasty accident that disqualified me from service.Recovery from it went well though.
The point of that was that the T-men that I know don’t strive for average.They aim high. They seem to have an internal drive for nothing less than the ultimate.
I hope you didn’t think that I meant that I entered B.U.D.S. at 13.

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[quote]fooligan wrote:
I think that if you set a goal and train hard, then you can reach it. While the average person calls it a day when they hit their goal, a T-man merely calls it a good start.[/quote]

It’s over, folks; give the man the million dollars.

Well played.

-FC

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Sorry to hear that. I ask because I read that book written by the former SEAL who was invited to watch SEAL training. And it was freaky as hell and cool. I didn’t think you trying to enter at 13 (I did think you were planing ahead big time). Hell as I recall most of those guys were in their early twenties. Not too far off.

[quote]mindeffer01 wrote:
NateN,
Actualy it didn’t turn out too well.I was in a realy nasty accident that disqualified me from service.Recovery from it went well though.
The point of that was that the T-men that I know don’t strive for average.They aim high. They seem to have an internal drive for nothing less than the ultimate.
I hope you didn’t think that I meant that I entered B.U.D.S. at 13.

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[quote]Velvet Revolver wrote:
most of the muscle heads on this site don’t want to admit the FACT that women prefer trimly built men like the athletic/surfer/tyler durden types. [/quote]

I had planned on first reading the rest of this thread, then replying about my physique goals, how they differ from some, are similar to others, those physiques to which I aspire, and those which inspire me.

This, however, just makes me want to piss on you like you were on fire and my rather sizeable penis was the firehose.

First, I suppose I should go ahead and do my statin’ so my deriding of you and those of your ilk makes more sense later on in the post.

When I started liftin’, I didn’t know shite. My physique goal was the Hulk. My first weight training program: the one batman used to come back after Bane broke his back. My equipment: two five-pound dumbbells. Later on in my training, I wanted to be like those distance runners.

Now, my physique goal is mirrored most readily in Pavel Howeverthehellyoupronouncethat.

My weight goals: 180lbs, lean, strong, with great anaerobic and aerobic endurance. However, I want to continue to modify my physique, improving muscular size and ability through every hypertrophy, strength, and power cycle.

Only dead things don’t change.

T-Nation is the greatest informational resource with regards to physical training.

And calling someone a meathead makes you sound like a heroin-shootin’, piss drinkin’, tree huggin’ hippie. Bich.

Oh, and what do I care what women think of my physique? If they can’t handle an athletic, well-muscled, intelligent, funny, religious bastard like myself, then fuck 'em.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
It would seem that I am not alone in being pissed that this site seems to be falling in hardcore attitude since the incoming of more feminine posters. Perhaps it is your outlook that needs to change. Anyone not here for bodybuilding, powerlifting or sports specific performance should probably find a new forum. I hear Men’s Health needs some new members.[/quote]

This is quite possibly one of the most correct things I’ve ever read.

And to all the metro-sexual biches - stop being that way. You suck. And you increase the rate of aromatization of testosterone into estrogen by sucking so much. Damn hippies.

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[quote]FlawlessCowboy wrote:
fooligan wrote:
I think that if you set a goal and train hard, then you can reach it. While the average person calls it a day when they hit their goal, a T-man merely calls it a good start.

It’s over, folks; give the man the million dollars.

Well played.

-FC

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Indeed.

And I’d also wager that all of the T-Women we have on the site, both the contributors and the lurkers alike, could outperfom the metros in any physical or intellectual discipline.