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[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Does anyone remember those little pink rubber monsters called M.U.S.C.L.E.S.?

There were like 100 of them to collect, and they were all like weird looking aliens, or lucha libre freaks, or crosses between things like spray bottles and people, and they didn’t have moving arms or legs.

I loved those little things, I remember doing all types of crazy stuff with them, all involving fire.

Toys today suck compared to the toys I played with when I was younger. Same with the cartoons.[/quote]

Those were awesome. Perfect size to fight the Voltron lions.

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[quote]baretta wrote:
cough…closet homosexual…cough
-1 Man crush

Well, playing with dolls will probably make the french more manly anyways.
+1 french sissies[/quote]

Third post of the thread.

So, to all of you who said the issue of homosexuality never came up in the thread till I brought it up…

I guess you were wrong, huh?

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Shoebolt wrote:
Wow… can you stop whining? This thread was about what is manly and what is not… not what is typified as gay or not in society. And ok if dressing in pink is considered to be a homosexual trait… then… so what? If you wear pink and are gay, you’re gay, and that’s your choice, and you’re done. If you wear pink and your straight, you’re not gay, and that’y your choice, and your done.

You just seem to be very insecure with your sexuality and peoples’ perception of you. Stop whining.

No, this thread is about people complaining that things they see as gay are becoming mainstream.

I’ve already explained that many things that have been considered (within our society) “unmanly” are not met with such resistance because they are not associated with homosexuals.

Just answer this simple question:

Tradionally, in America, men worked and suppored a family financially while a woman stayed home, took care of the house, and raised the kids. So, the (manly) thing to do was support your family and the (feminine) thing to do was stay home.

However, today, since some women have lucrative careers, some men stay home, raise children, wash dishes, do laundry, etc etc. Being as this is typically something women do (the same way wearing eyeliner is typically something women do), why aren’t people complaining that its “unmanly”?

You keep asserting that the only logic in play here is “Men should not do unmanly things.”

But men do “unmanly” things all the time, and no one gets all upset over it.[/quote]

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The similarities between the doll and X’s avatar are striking.

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[quote]HoratioSandoval wrote:
skaz05 wrote:
Does anyone remember those little pink rubber monsters called M.U.S.C.L.E.S.?

There were like 100 of them to collect, and they were all like weird looking aliens, or lucha libre freaks, or crosses between things like spray bottles and people, and they didn’t have moving arms or legs.

I loved those little things, I remember doing all types of crazy stuff with them, all involving fire.

Toys today suck compared to the toys I played with when I was younger. Same with the cartoons.

Those were awesome. Perfect size to fight the Voltron lions.[/quote]

I had a few of those. They were extremely easy to sneak to school and their use as projectiles across a crowded room was second to none.

Apparently, some guy on Ebay is selling his last set.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-11-vintage-M-U-S-C-L-E-S-wrestling-figures_W0QQitemZ150129626947QQihZ005QQcategoryZ348QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

What the fuck happened to mine? I know I couldn’t have launched them all across the cafeteria.

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[quote]Brant_Drake wrote:
The similarities between the doll and X’s avatar are striking.[/quote]

That was low, man.

I mean, gay. That was gay, man.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

No, I’m not gay. If its really that big of a deal to you, yeah, I’ve hooked up with a few guys. Really didn’t get into it. My sexuality falls somewhere between “not straight” and “not gay”. We’ll go with bi, I guess, if you need a label. I prefer the term “stray”.

If its just speaking positive of masculinity, why aren’t you being negative about male teachers or men who raise children (stereotypically unmasculine things)?

So, who looks more homophobic here? The guys who express a bit of disdain for an article-
or the guy who hooks up with other guys, has to make up ambiguous descriptions for his sexual orientation, and becomes defensive about the topic?

So you’re saying that I’m… what… homophobic? In the closet? Annoyed by what I see as homophobia?

What are you trying to say?

[/quote]

That you have sex with men.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Shoebolt wrote:
Wow… can you stop whining? This thread was about what is manly and what is not… not what is typified as gay or not in society. And ok if dressing in pink is considered to be a homosexual trait… then… so what? If you wear pink and are gay, you’re gay, and that’s your choice, and you’re done. If you wear pink and your straight, you’re not gay, and that’y your choice, and your done.

You just seem to be very insecure with your sexuality and peoples’ perception of you. Stop whining.

No, this thread is about people complaining that things they see as gay are becoming mainstream.

I’ve already explained that many things that have been considered (within our society) “unmanly” are not met with such resistance because they are not associated with homosexuals.

Just answer this simple question:

Tradionally, in America, men worked and suppored a family financially while a woman stayed home, took care of the house, and raised the kids. So, the (manly) thing to do was support your family and the (feminine) thing to do was stay home.

However, today, since some women have lucrative careers, some men stay home, raise children, wash dishes, do laundry, etc etc. Being as this is typically something women do (the same way wearing eyeliner is typically something women do), why aren’t people complaining that its “unmanly”?

You keep asserting that the only logic in play here is “Men should not do unmanly things.”

But men do “unmanly” things all the time, and no one gets all upset over it.

[/quote]

Very mature. I’m impressed.

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[quote]n3wb wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

No, I’m not gay. If its really that big of a deal to you, yeah, I’ve hooked up with a few guys. Really didn’t get into it. My sexuality falls somewhere between “not straight” and “not gay”. We’ll go with bi, I guess, if you need a label. I prefer the term “stray”.

If its just speaking positive of masculinity, why aren’t you being negative about male teachers or men who raise children (stereotypically unmasculine things)?

So, who looks more homophobic here? The guys who express a bit of disdain for an article-
or the guy who hooks up with other guys, has to make up ambiguous descriptions for his sexual orientation, and becomes defensive about the topic?

So you’re saying that I’m… what… homophobic? In the closet? Annoyed by what I see as homophobia?

What are you trying to say?

That you have sex with men.[/quote]

hahahahahaha.

Oh man.

A whole thread of idiots claiming not to be homophobic…

Meanwhile one of them accuses me of being gay to insult me.

Priceless.

You guys are too much, really.

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So, let me get this straight:

You: Its wrong for guys to wear eyeliner.

Me: Why?

You: Because its unmanly.

Me: But men do other things that are considered unmanly, and you dont call those things wrong.

You: Stop whining!!

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Ok, I’ll play your game:

I cant stand rap music, doo rags, “bling”, gold teeth, basketball, fried chicken, watermelon, grits, chitlins, collard greens, spinning rims, and hair weaves.

But don’t go calling me racist. If you do, you’re just making stuff up beacuse I didnt say I dont like black people.

(Hint for Professor X: Yes. I’m aware that race isnt the issue here. Its called an analogy. I brought up the issue because it is similiar (an underlying issue being masked as other issues).)

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

Very mature. I’m impressed. [/quote]

Oh, and don’t think we aren’t impressed that you aren’t lucid enough to even have a clear perspective on your own sexuality (stray?) yet feel the need to tell everyone how they should think about the entire concept of sexuality as a whole.

That takes insolence to whole new frontiers, turns the stage coach around and drops the settlers right back off at home.

You have ranted for several pages now. Are you done? Do you think you have caused anyone to see things your way? If anything, you have probably turned more people against whatever stance you are trying to take.

Speaking for myself, I could care less who is gay and who isn’t. I do find it ridiculous when I run across people who feel the need to make their own sexuality the topic of the day even when it isn’t necessary or warranted. It shows you aren’t at peace with yourself and has very little to do with the way the rest of the world perceives you.

Masculinity is cool. It is great. It is amazing. Stating that real men don’t wear tutus or knee high stockings does not make me homophobic. Stating that real men don’t wear capris does not make me homophobic.

It makes me OPINIONATED, and frankly, you can kiss my ass if you feel I can’t have opinions without worrying about your “confused” sexuality or “stray-ness”.

Work on choosing a definition for yourself that sticks before you tell me how to think about you.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Ok, I’ll play your game:

I cant stand rap music, doo rags, “bling”, gold teeth, basketball, fried chicken, watermelon, grits, chitlins, collard greens, spinning rims, and hair weaves.

But don’t go calling me racist. If you do, you’re just making stuff up beacuse I didnt say I dont like black people.

(Hint for Professor X: Yes. I’m aware that race isnt the issue here. Its called an analogy. I brought up the issue because it is similiar (an underlying issue being masked as other issues).)[/quote]

That’s playing my game? The difference is, my game isn’t anything I wouldn’t say directly to you.

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Really, guys. This discussion is… ugly

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Oh my god…

Just for quick reference, I am the guy who was called homo-phobic and sorta started all of this.

I miss one day and all this shit piles up.

To Capped and Planned it:

Stop it. I have no long ass argument for you, just stop it. Stop It.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

Very mature. I’m impressed.

Oh, and don’t think we aren’t impressed that you aren’t lucid enough to even have a clear perspective on your own sexuality (stray?) yet feel the need to tell everyone how they should think about the entire concept of sexuality as a whole.

That takes insolence to whole new frontiers, turns the stage coach around and drops the settlers right back off at home.

You have ranted for several pages now. Are you done? Do you think you have caused anyone to see things your way? If anything, you have probably turned more people against whatever stance you are trying to take.

Speaking for myself, I could care less who is gay and who isn’t. I do find it ridiculous when I run across people who feel the need to make their own sexuality the topic of the day even when it isn’t necessary or warranted. It shows you aren’t at peace with yourself and has very little to do with the way the rest of the world perceives you.

Masculinity is cool. It is great. It is amazing. Stating that real men don’t wear tutus or knee high stockings does not make me homophobic. Stating that real men don’t wear capris does not make me homophobic.

It makes me OPINIONATED, and frankly, you can kiss my ass if you feel I can’t have opinions without worrying about your “confused” sexuality or “stray-ness”.

Work on choosing a definition for yourself that sticks before you tell me how to think about you.[/quote]

Who was the one who originally brought up my sexuality in this thread? You or me?

Answer: you.

Why?

Because your only defense, instead of actually considering the issue, is to build up a strawman that it must be my personal insecurities. If you had the ability to argue your point, you wouldn’t have to resort to personal attacks.

My OPINION is that you are uncomfortable with men wearing eyeliner because you associate it with homosexuality.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
n3wb wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

No, I’m not gay. If its really that big of a deal to you, yeah, I’ve hooked up with a few guys. Really didn’t get into it. My sexuality falls somewhere between “not straight” and “not gay”. We’ll go with bi, I guess, if you need a label. I prefer the term “stray”.

If its just speaking positive of masculinity, why aren’t you being negative about male teachers or men who raise children (stereotypically unmasculine things)?

So, who looks more homophobic here? The guys who express a bit of disdain for an article-
or the guy who hooks up with other guys, has to make up ambiguous descriptions for his sexual orientation, and becomes defensive about the topic?

So you’re saying that I’m… what… homophobic? In the closet? Annoyed by what I see as homophobia?

What are you trying to say?

That you have sex with men.

hahahahahaha.

Oh man.

A whole thread of idiots claiming not to be homophobic…

Meanwhile one of them accuses me of being gay to insult me.

Priceless.

You guys are too much, really.

[/quote]

To be honest I dont care to argue with you because I dont realy care about your opinion or about you in general.

I dont see why people are even talking to you who cares what your opinion is or how you feel.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Ok, I’ll play your game:

I cant stand rap music, doo rags, “bling”, gold teeth, basketball, fried chicken, watermelon, grits, chitlins, collard greens, spinning rims, and hair weaves.

But don’t go calling me racist. If you do, you’re just making stuff up beacuse I didnt say I dont like black people.

(Hint for Professor X: Yes. I’m aware that race isnt the issue here. Its called an analogy. I brought up the issue because it is similiar (an underlying issue being masked as other issues).)

That’s playing my game? The difference is, my game isn’t anything I wouldn’t say directly to you.[/quote]

You have yet to answer the simple question: If your only problem with guys doing some things you consider “unmanly” is that they are “unmanly”, why dont you have the same problem with all “unmanly” things?

Think about it like this:

60 years ago, if you mentioned to someone that you were doing laundry, and they replied with “You shouldnt do that, its unmanly”, I’d be saying that person was sexist. Because the underlying message would be “You shouldnt do that, its unmanly because its a womans job.”

I’m saying many of the views expressed here are homophobic becaues the underlying message is “Men shouldnt do that because thats what homosexuals do.”

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
So, let me get this straight:

You: Its wrong for guys to wear eyeliner.

Me: Why?

You: Because its unmanly.

Me: But men do other things that are considered unmanly, and you dont call those things wrong.

You: Stop whining!!
[/quote]

You: Im gay theres nothing wrong with that.

n3wb: OK

You: look at me!

n3wb: OK why?

You: homophobe!

n3wb: What are you talking about?

You: Let me spell it out
I am
Gay
I
Have sex
With men
Im right
Your wrong

n3wb: Fine stop whineing

You: Never Im gonna complain about random things until my man gets home and drags me off to bed.

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[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Oh my god…

Just for quick reference, I am the guy who was called homo-phobic and sorta started all of this.

I miss one day and all this shit piles up.

To Capped and Planned it:

Stop it. I have no long ass argument for you, just stop it. Stop It.

[/quote]

Why? Because my opinion doesn’t match some other posters?

Or because the points I bring up are ignored and the issue is suddenly if I’m gay or not?

I already explained that I realize it was out of line for me to call you a homophobe. I sincerely apologize.

However, my opinion that homophobia is the root of many of the comments here still stands.