[quote]onewall wrote:
If you are getting stronger then you are gaining muscle. Simple as that. [/quote]
Not true. Typically strength increases for beginners during the first 6 weeks is due to a neurological adaption. The CNS is learning to recruite more motor units. The more units recruited to the movement the more force produced.
I doubt you are losing muscle on that diet.
If your goal is to lose fat it sounds like it is working.
If your goal is to add muscle you will need to eat more.
Hope they aren’t too big. The shoe size is 10 if you guys need any other info.
NG,
Not trying to be mean or anything.
your not fat, eat, you have the body of a 14 year old.
Read the articles and be intense in the gym. You have a good base to work with.
LOL… hhahahaha
[quote]Nguyenm wrote:
Hope they aren’t too big. The shoe size is 10 if you guys need any other info.[/quote]
ROFLMFAO! The shoe thing was a joke man, but at least you are listening to us! Eat big, lift big if you want to gain mass. As others have said, what are doing now is good fat loss plan but definetely nowhere near where you should be if you want to put on some slabs of muscle.
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=868493&pageNo=0
Just in case you need a ref Nugyenm.
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
5’9 185 lbs. is a pretty good size. It looks like you would be better off doing body recomposition than a bulk.
If your friends say you look smaller then you are probably dropping fat. Your face may even look leaner, etc. This is a good thing. I see your diet and it is clean, this is how it should be.
Don’t bother trying to get your BF% measured, because there are very few accurate measuring devices. If you want, throw up a pic that shows your midsection, and I will give you a good estimation.
You need to use the mirror to track your progress, not any kind of scale. This is harder than looking at a number but also more rewarding. Numbers lie, photos of yourself don’t.
Your diet now is very nice and clean, don’t sacrifice that for the sake of adding tons of calories. Just make sure you are getting a decent amount. With your stats, I would assume you need 3,000 for a smooth body recomposition. Keep it up and you will find yourself burning fat and simultaneously replacing it with new muscle. This is the ideal bodybuilding environment.[/quote]
Always with the body recomp shit ehh.
Weren’t you the guy who said that anoxeric guy with a distended stomach should do a recomp.
At 185 maitenance is roughly 3700 (185x70)
Fat loss is roughly 3145 cals (185x17)
Muscle gain is rougly 4440 (185x24)
Choose one and follow it. EAT MORE, TRAIN HARD, REST LOTS, REPEAT
[quote]jbodzin wrote:
NG,
Not trying to be mean or anything.
your not fat, eat, you have the body of a 14 year old.
Read the articles and be intense in the gym. You have a good base to work with.[/quote]
Agree.
Eat more. Train hard.
You are not fat. Strip away the small amount of bodyfat you have and you will not look good.
Add some muscle first and then do it and you will look good.
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
5’9 185 lbs. is a pretty good size. It looks like you would be better off doing body recomposition than a bulk.
If your friends say you look smaller then you are probably dropping fat. Your face may even look leaner, etc. This is a good thing. I see your diet and it is clean, this is how it should be.
Don’t bother trying to get your BF% measured, because there are very few accurate measuring devices. If you want, throw up a pic that shows your midsection, and I will give you a good estimation.
You need to use the mirror to track your progress, not any kind of scale. This is harder than looking at a number but also more rewarding. Numbers lie, photos of yourself don’t.
Your diet now is very nice and clean, don’t sacrifice that for the sake of adding tons of calories. Just make sure you are getting a decent amount. With your stats, I would assume you need 3,000 for a smooth body recomposition. Keep it up and you will find yourself burning fat and simultaneously replacing it with new muscle. This is the ideal bodybuilding environment.[/quote]
Good advice. Keep your intake clean, just a bit more of it. Slowly increase your calories also, so your body will adjust to it and use it instead of storing it.
[quote]Nguyenm wrote:
Hope they aren’t too big. The shoe size is 10 if you guys need any other info.[/quote]
Ok, from your pic, I gather that you are brand new to lifting. No worries. Don’t get overly concerned about your body comp yet. You’ll need to put in at least a year before sweating the small details.
What you need to be concerned with is training consistantly, eating in a manner that will accelerate muscle growth, and getting the right amount of rest. There is no need to over analyze anything yet. Just stay dedicated to the weights and you’ll improve.
[quote]BigRagoo wrote:
Nguyenm wrote:
Hope they aren’t too big. The shoe size is 10 if you guys need any other info.
Ok, from your pic, I gather that you are brand new to lifting. No worries. Don’t get overly concerned about your body comp yet. You’ll need to put in at least a year before sweating the small details.
What you need to be concerned with is training consistantly, eating in a manner that will accelerate muscle growth, and getting the right amount of rest. There is no need to over analyze anything yet. Just stay dedicated to the weights and you’ll improve.[/quote]
Yes. I would’nt worry so much on cals now, but make sure you get 220 plus grams of protein. At your beginning state, protein is king, then lifting.
If you can do a shake in the AM and pre bed, then this should also help in getting the right amounts.
Stop asking friends about your size. In a few months they will be calling you steroid boy.
This has got to be the nicest “I can’t gain” thread I have ever seen here.
You’re on the right track, but double up on the food, and keep up with the weights. Get the squats and deads into the routine. Get your form right (this means ask for help if you need it) and then get your weight up.
Oh yeah, post your progress. We will all help if we can.
-folly
Hmm, for the long term, make sure to seriously look into the back and see if you can’t find a way to get it into good working order.
There are all kinds of things, some quite minor and easily addressed, that can aggravate your back.
Keep reading!
Don’t worry if it takes a while to catch up… you have started pretty early, you have plenty of time. Some morons, like myself, waited until they were in their 30’s or later to start worrying about these things.
Dump the split routines. There for experts only.
You should focus on full body training routines, with an emphasis on the basics.
if you do have a bad back, you can still load the thighs without loading the back. body weight squats, bulgarian split squats, lunges, pistols or single leg squats, single leg (King) deadlifts.
Start doing pull ins. Here is how. Grasp the dinner table with either both or one hand. Pull your body closer. Eat. Eat clean and often. Have somethig that moo’d, oinked, clucked, swam or slithered, gobbled, at every meal. Forget all the expensive supplements for now. Supplements add to a solid foundation. You don’t have your big rocks in place in order to gain weight. Are your weights going up?
Holding a shoe in your picture raises your brownie points up huge, but don’t be a lemming. Absorb the advice that everyone has to offer, research the advice and then decide what’s best for you.
Trial by error can very satisfying when you have made the decisions and have done the hard work yourself.
[quote]folly wrote:
This has got to be the nicest “I can’t gain” thread I have ever seen here.
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Well, he is honest about his absence of lifting knowledge and admits he’s a beginner with a lot to learn. That’s a big difference between the ones that come on here with no knowledge, yet bitch and moan until someone says what they want to hear.
Guys like this will get honest responses.
[quote]BigRagoo wrote:
folly wrote:
This has got to be the nicest “I can’t gain” thread I have ever seen here.
Well, he is honest about his absence of lifting knowledge and admits he’s a beginner with a lot to learn. That’s a big difference between the ones that come on here with no knowledge, yet bitch and moan until someone says what they want to hear.
Guys like this will get honest responses.[/quote]
Absolultly, he has show he wants to learn and is open to suggestions and besides this is the “Beginners” forum, as long as he’s not a douche he can ask anything he needs.