Which method is best for dieting while retaining muscle. t-dawg \ lyle mcdonald = higher fat protein around 1 g per lb of lbm or Serrano\poliquin\beverly high amounts of protein low carb moderate fat. Lyle mcdonald says that its a waste to eat excessive amounts of protein because it just gets turned into glucose same with t-dawg. Also I read in the zone that glucogeneosis and keto diets cause the fat cells to become more sensitive and the body will eventually either rip down protein or muscle for glucose? is this true?
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anybody have any input? I am also interested in what diet is the best when muscle and strength retention is the most important
I’ve had only terrible experiences with a CKD, T-Dawg, Lyle’s Keto Book, Anabolic Diet, BodyOpus, etc. They work great for some but not for others. Without a doubt Beverly’s, Serrano’s, Poliquin’s approach is superior in every way, at least in my experience and from others I have talked with. I stick with 1.5g protein per lb. of bodyweight minimum, with moderately low fat from EFA’s, and low carbs from greens and 1 or 2 pieces of thermogenic fruits (peaches, apples, strawberries, grapefruit) and I’m losing fat at a rapid rate.
I personally found ‘Fat Fast’ diet from this site worked best for quickestest results. I used 12 cal./lb for bodyweight, on a 70/30 fat & protein ratio - no carbs. I favour staying on this diet for 3 weeks max. and found cycling mass & cutting routines done in more regular cycles avoids my BF getting too high and too much to cut back in one hit. Training on a keto diet was purely ‘maintenance’ 60-70%RM three times a week with 30 mins. of aerobics (cycles)@ 70% of heart rate for 3-4 days. Supplements were methoxy 7, protein powder & a fat burner (every second day for the burner). The key for ‘me’ was low calories over minimum time, zero carbs, ‘lite’ training and lots of water - heck on 12 cal./lb a day, water was the only thing filled my belly without affecting my diet. Good luck with whatever you find workz best for you.
The Beverly/Serrano/Poliquin diet is more easily managed and doesn’t require such drastic measures. As to the effectiveness of each it probably depends a lot on the individual.
What about glucogeneosis? I have read that it makes your fat cells more sensitive. any thoughts?
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BodyOpus
by Enzo Iadevaia
BODYOPUS is a very different type of diet. It was created by Dan Duchaine. As Dan states, it will help you lose fat, and trick the metabolism into anabolic growth. It is a modified version of the old Ultimate Diet and the Rebound Training System. It is a bit similar to the anabolic diet but different because the anabolic diet lets you eat whatever you what, as long as it’s on the proper days. Dan lays out which carbs to eat, how much, and when to stop. He also explains how to train and how to reach glycogen supercompensation(carb loading).
Before you start such a radical diet I highly recommend that you see a qualified physician first. After you get checked out and everything is alright then you can begin.
This diet claims to help you lose all the fat you want without losing any muscle. Sounds to good to be true, but believe it or not it works! Actually the first step you should take in BODYOPUS is to believe that it works. BODYOPUS is a low calorie/very low carbohydrate diet for 5 days, coupled with 2 days of high carbohydrates and moderately high calories to achieve glycogen supercompensation. You must also train 3 times for a total of about 5 hours a week.
Many of you are probably thinking how does BODYOPUS work? Well BODYOPUS is a ketogenic diet. Ketogenic diets work by drastically lowering carbohydrate intake. What this does is reduce the amount of insulin secreted and therefore tricking the metabolism. The leading cause of weight gain in the US is not from eating to much dietary fat but from eating to many carbohydrates. Insulin is a hormone released by your pancreas following carbohydrate ingestion and the associated rise in blood sugar(glucose). Insulin triggers a few things: it brings blood sugar into the muscles for energy, it converts blood sugar to glycogen, stores extra blood sugar as fat, and it prevents fat-burning of existing bodyfat. In order to achieve fat loss we must limit insulin levels by reducing the intake of carbohydrates. Most ketogenic diets are classified as hazardous by most physicians, but when used under control, ketosis is a great fat-loss tool.
In order to establish ketosis your blood glucose needs to fall below 50mg/dl. When your in ketosis your pancreas will now produce glycogon instead of insulin. Glycogon can be loosely called a catabolic hormone. It isn’t normally secreted but when it is it’s usually an indiction of starvation or diabetes. In BODYOPUS glycogon is not your enemy, instead you will use it to your advantage. What it does is break down fatty acids and convert them into ketones. These ketones will be the primary fuel source for your body, including the brain. This state occurs when there are more ketones than glucose in the blood. However ketosis is not for everyone, if you are not active and don’t require a lot of energy ketosis can be very hazardous. It tends cause ketoacidosis. This can make the blood acidic if they are not used up, so I can’t stress it enough to exercise and train sufficiently. The BODYOPUS diet will cause ketosis for 4 days out of the week which is not a problem for bodybuilders and athletes.
On the weekend BODYOPUS throws in a bonus, you can eat a limited amount of carbohydrates. The reason behind this is that it will cause an anabolic effect. This is absolutely necessary due to the loss of muscle during the week. Glycogen supercompensation will cause cellular kinetic expansion that is claimed to be just like steroids and growth hormone.
BODYOPUS is a seven day cycle. Monday through Friday you are carb depleting and Saturday & Sunday carb loading. Monday thru Friday you eat a 70% fat / 30% protein diet. On the weekends you will follow a 60% carbs / 25% protein / 15% fat. As far as calorie levels go, you will consume 10% less than your maintanence level on weekdays and about 5-10% above you maintenance level on weekends. Your probably wondering where all that fat is coming from, well you will consume 30% from Omega-3 and Omega-6 (Flaxseed Oil) acids , another 30% from unsaturated fats (monounsaturated & polyunsaterated), and 10% from saturated fats. You can get these fats from a few sources: fish, beef, whole eggs, olive or safflower oil, bacon, sausage, pork, and cheese. Basically you want to consume enough fat but remember NO CARBS. That means no bread, cereal, fruit, pasta, milk, sugar, the list goes on and on. Carbs are everywhere so you must be careful. On the weekends you can eat some real food but be careful not to consume over 16g per lean body weight(kg) of carbs(the result is in calories so to convert it to grams: just divide your answer by 4).
As far as training goes, three days a week will be adequate. On Monday you should train you bigger muscles(chest, shoulders,triceps, abs) because you are the strongest from the carb loading. On Tuesday you finish up the rest of your body(back, biceps, legs). Then on Friday comes the fun part. You will train EVERY body part to failure in order to totally deplete yourself of glycogen. What you do is two hours before you train you should eat some fruit. I like having 2 apples but you can eat whatever you like, but keep it under 200 calories. The reason is that you want to kick yourself out of ketosis so your blood sugar level would be about 60mg/dl. This will help you totally deplete your muscles of the last bit of glycogen, and will greatly improve glycogen supercompensation.
I have been on this diet for about 6 weeks so for and the results are quite impressive. When I started I was 169 lbs and 8% bodyfat. After just six weeks of BODYOPUS I went to 174 lbs and 6% bodyfat. I couldn’t believe it myself I actually gained weight and lost fat at the same time. That’s all I needed to know that BODYOPUS is by far the Ultimate Diet.
One thing that I would recommend to everyone who wants give BODYOPUS a shot, is to buy the book “Underground BODYOPUS Militant Weight Loss & Recomposition” by Dan Duchaine. Due to amount of information Duchaine put it this book I can only summarize it here. Dan explains many more key issues that will help guarantee your success, so I can’t stress it enough to go and read it for yourself.