[quote]Don’t be a doofus…it depends on your body type and natural leverages…if you are built for high bar squatting, it is rather stupid to go low bar because others have had success with it…
Also, pull the tampon string out and dispose of in a sanitary manner…greystroke was just making a comment, not bashin your religion.
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thats just about the stupidest thing ive ever heard. when you squat low, you use your hamstrings & hips a whole lot more than when you squat high. THATS your natural leverages right there. please explain to me how using less muscle will result in moving more weight.
that depending on your body type shit is just a weak argument made for points that cant be backed up with evidence. so please, juice less and educate yourself a little more :)[/quote]
You’re even bad at trolling…sad that the PL forum has come to this…you idiots used to just hang out in the BB section…
I should say first that I’m 1) a newbie and 2) lucky enough to have very short femurs and all styles of squatting generally feel natural and strong to me.
Up until a some months ago I only squatted high bar, sitting down between my legs and all that. At least for me, it didn’t seem to involve my hamstrings at all. I’ve since switched to low bar, sitting back, etc and it just feels so much stronger. My hamstrings and glutes are in there and honestly, I actually think it hits my quads harder than high bar did too. At least my entire lower body generally feels like it got hit by a truck after I’m done. High bar seemed to be much less stressful.
So at least for me, low bar seems to work my legs far harder than high bar did. It’s made my legs bigger, my vertical higher, and of course has put more weight on the bar too.
You people more experienced than me, am I out to lunch or does this make sense to you? Maybe I just sucked at high bar squats?
[quote]Don’t be a doofus…it depends on your body type and natural leverages…if you are built for high bar squatting, it is rather stupid to go low bar because others have had success with it…
Also, pull the tampon string out and dispose of in a sanitary manner…greystroke was just making a comment, not bashin your religion.
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thats just about the stupidest thing ive ever heard. when you squat low, you use your hamstrings & hips a whole lot more than when you squat high. THATS your natural leverages right there. please explain to me how using less muscle will result in moving more weight.
that depending on your body type shit is just a weak argument made for points that cant be backed up with evidence. so please, juice less and educate yourself a little more :)[/quote]
I for one, am glad you decided to post here. You must be an old and wise lifter with all your vast knowledge. Most of the guys one this site are hacks at best, stumbling from one thing to the next…keep up the good work![/quote]
Lord Greystoke, I presume?
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You presume correct.
I thought I was pretty sarcastic…you think he missed it?
I should say first that I’m 1) a newbie and 2) lucky enough to have very short femurs and all styles of squatting generally feel natural and strong to me.
Up until a some months ago I only squatted high bar, sitting down between my legs and all that. At least for me, it didn’t seem to involve my hamstrings at all. I’ve since switched to low bar, sitting back, etc and it just feels so much stronger. My hamstrings and glutes are in there and honestly, I actually think it hits my quads harder than high bar did too. At least my entire lower body generally feels like it got hit by a truck after I’m done. High bar seemed to be much less stressful.
So at least for me, low bar seems to work my legs far harder than high bar did. It’s made my legs bigger, my vertical higher, and of course has put more weight on the bar too.
You people more experienced than me, am I out to lunch or does this make sense to you? Maybe I just sucked at high bar squats?[/quote]
I certainly feel low bar well enough, especially when i get brave and go for volume, man that shit burns. I just havent had any progress PR wise, hence wondering about the high bar
I would say that high bar squatting is much more athletic and functional. Plus, it doesn’t tax your lower back as bad as the low bar squat (which means you can high bar squat more often). Low bar squatting has it advantages tho, you can use a lot more weight and you get some work in your hammies.
[quote]Don’t be a doofus…it depends on your body type and natural leverages…if you are built for high bar squatting, it is rather stupid to go low bar because others have had success with it…
Also, pull the tampon string out and dispose of in a sanitary manner…greystroke was just making a comment, not bashin your religion.
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thats just about the stupidest thing ive ever heard. when you squat low, you use your hamstrings & hips a whole lot more than when you squat high. THATS your natural leverages right there. please explain to me how using less muscle will result in moving more weight.
that depending on your body type shit is just a weak argument made for points that cant be backed up with evidence. so please, juice less and educate yourself a little more :)[/quote]
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
That man is 60kg and squats 280kg… over 4x his BW and hes using high bar, are you mad?
That man just squatted 450kg and hes using low bar, HOW MAD?
this forum is full of idiots lol how does anything you posted prove me wrong? one dude just goes into his corner crying and the other one posts 2 random videos of lifting. obviously people can have ridiculously strong high bar squats but the fact that more muscle is involved in low bar remains the same, and that your technique is shit when you fall over on low bar squats. meatheads.
If you want to squat more often go high bar. If you want to load the barbell with more weight as soon as possible and do work on your hamstrings do low bar
I cant go too low bar, if I do I overcompensate for the load being on my back and tilt my back foward. I end up doing a squat morning, so I kind of like that area right in the middle of a high bar and low bar.
[quote]Kooopa wrote:
this forum is full of idiots lol how does anything you posted prove me wrong? one dude just goes into his corner crying and the other one posts 2 random videos of lifting. obviously people can have ridiculously strong high bar squats but the fact that more muscle is involved in low bar remains the same, and that your technique is shit when you fall over on low bar squats. meatheads.[/quote]
Do you have a video of yourself squatting a high amount of weight in the manner you describe? I’m sure you do, and aren’t just an anoymous nameless/faceless keyboard warrior that has read a couple articles by insert favorite strength training guru…I’d be curious to see your demonstration and prove us all wrong.
[quote]Kooopa wrote:
…but the fact that more muscle is involved in low bar remains the same…[/quote]
I’ll just point out that this is where you go off track in your line of thinking…you are confusing MUSCLE with MOVEMENT…the “most muscle” is not always the strongest “movement”…otherwise the IFBB pros would also be the strongest powerlifters…they’re not
Yeah exactly…do what works for you! Some people…surprise squat more high bar! Some people squat more low bar. My lifting coach has a 750 lb squat, and squats high bar!
[quote]Kooopa wrote:
this forum is full of idiots lol how does anything you posted prove me wrong? one dude just goes into his corner crying and the other one posts 2 random videos of lifting. obviously people can have ridiculously strong high bar squats but the fact that more muscle is involved in low bar remains the same, and that your technique is shit when you fall over on low bar squats. meatheads.[/quote]
get out of my thread, im looking for answers, not arguements from ignorant small fries
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
I don’t think anyone’s mentioned how much easier high bar is on the shoulders than low bar.[/quote]
I agree with you about the relief high bar placement provides for the shoulders. I had an injury to the Teres Minor/Major and the low bar position was killing it. I decided to squat with a Manta. It placed the bar high which eased the shoulder pain and made me tighten up my technique.
[quote]Kooopa wrote:
…but the fact that more muscle is involved in low bar remains the same…[/quote]
I’ll just point out that this is where you go off track in your line of thinking…you are confusing MUSCLE with MOVEMENT…the “most muscle” is not always the strongest “movement”…otherwise the IFBB pros would also be the strongest powerlifters…they’re not
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again, your comparison is complete shit. of course it does mean that. the more muscles work, the stronger the movement. thats why people can move more weight with deadlifts than with tricep extensions (which is by the way the more adequate comparison than comparing exercises to athletes).
so i must squat 1000lbs to understand biomechanics? being strong and understanding what youre talking about dont go hand in hand and youre not the worst example to prove that
@OP: like i give a fuck about you telling me to gtfo. in fact, its the only reason this post was actually made. umad?
[quote]Kooopa wrote:
being strong and understanding what youre talking about dont go hand in hand and youre not the worst example to prove that[/quote]
You poor thing. I feel sorry for anyone trying to get strong with this attitude.
[quote]Kooopa wrote:
being strong and understanding what youre talking about dont go hand in hand and youre not the worst example to prove that[/quote]
You poor thing. I feel sorry for anyone trying to get strong with this attitude.[/quote]
and i feel sorry for ignorant people that move in circles day in day out with their knowledge just following the herd/the guy with the biggest biceps. see, we all feel sorry. now drop the petty wannabe insults and prove my statements wrong
how does anything you posted prove me wrong? one dude just goes into his corner crying and the other one posts 2 random videos of lifting. obviously people can have ridiculously strong high bar squats but the fact that more muscle is involved in low bar remains the same, and that your technique is shit when you fall over on low bar squats. meatheads.