Louie Simmons....WTF?

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From a “REAL” powerlifter:

There is nothing wrong with that he is doing, its not selling out. I myself have hip issues from lifting, as well as a problem with my lower back.

I end every training session with some type of rotation, whether it be with a med ball, kbells, or a lighter bar on my back.

IT works the hips and obliques as well as stretches the same muscles.

Why dont you try it…put a bar on your back and start twisting at your waist; then tell me it doesnt work even a little for your obliques, lower back, and hips where they meet the obliques.

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[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:
I think everyone is just missing the point… [/quote]

I don’t think that’s it at all.

I’m sure you’d LIKE it to be that, but it’s not. It’s your misguided attempt to characterize Simmons as a sell out.

That’s what it is. Not “everyone but me” missing the point. [/quote]

He got fucking crossfit certified, so he could get paid to teach crossfit seminars… thats selling out… Crossfit and Powerlifting have NOTHING to do with one another[/quote]

Hey dumbass, he doesn’t just train powerlifters. I don’t understand why you’re trying to keep Louie in this box built from your perceptions about what Louie should or shouldn’t be doing. The fact that he learns or gets certified in something other than powerlifting doesn’t make him a sellout and doesn’t diminish what he’s done for powerlifting. Did you call Dave Tate a sellout when he started looking like a bodybuilder?[/quote]

I did, that shit was complete homo and shit. Who cares about being able to play with your kids see link below:

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/pictures_pics_photo_body_image_performance/dave_tate

The last page has a post by Dave Tate.

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[quote]SkyNett wrote:
DJHT - looking THICK in that new avatar dude! : ) [/quote]

Thanks I aspire to your size. Maybe someday. Sorry I had to post in here because of his Avi.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:
OP I will say fuck you for your Avi, that alone shows you are a jealous little man. Go make a name for yourself when you grow up then come back and talk shit. That is all.

And brother Chris, Skoal long cut straight, flavoring is for pussies and be a real man and swallow. :slight_smile: [/quote]

Eh, I just like Wintergreen because the ladies tell me my breath is fresh, and I always swallow.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
OP I will say fuck you for your Avi, that alone shows you are a jealous little man. Go make a name for yourself when you grow up then come back and talk shit. That is all.

And brother Chris, Skoal long cut straight, flavoring is for pussies and be a real man and swallow. :slight_smile: [/quote]

Eh, I just like Wintergreen because the ladies tell me my breath is fresh, and I always swallow.[/quote]

Hahahahahaha, alright, I have used them all but not anymore. Some reason the flavored ones fuck up my lip. Also the fine grain of Co doesnt work for me, but 25 years ago I started with chewing tobacco so that is probably why.

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[quote]Russaldo wrote:

[quote]dumbbellhead wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:

[quote]dumbbellhead wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:

[quote]attydeb2005 wrote:
So I Googled him and everything I came across was bad ass. How hard did you have to search to find this? Do you have some sort of motive?[/quote]

Well yeah, he’s the founder of Westside barbell. I didnt search for the vid at all, it was on my “recommended videos” in my youtube account. I study Louie and Westside religiously. Its just sad to see that he’s willing to sell out for money and to keep his name current. [/quote]

Sell out? Sell out? He sold out by finding a use for kettlebells? He sold out by finding a use for another apparatus?

You, some guy on the internet, have the audacity to call out Louie Simmons and say he sold out for money?

Seriously, who the fuck do you think you are?(that’s not rhetorical)[/quote]

Louie Simmons, a man who has dedicated his life to powerlifting, suddenly gets crossfit certified and uses kettlebells once they become popular. Im pretty sure thats fucking selling out. Thats like a band changing their genre to become main stream. Fucking look at the guy, hes a god damn powerlifter, not some sort of kettlebell mobility freak. Have you never seen a Westside video, or read any Westside literature?

Who the fuck are you?

For god sakes, the man has come to just about as close to mastering the squat as you can get, and he says that movement “builds your hips” if you dont know thats bullshit I dont have much hope for ya
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Seriously, you’re a shit-talking 20-year-old “fuck everybody” “I know better” kid with no photos and no videos and a log that never got started.

Why the fuck would anyone care about your assessment of what Louie Simmons deems important enough to get certified in and what tools he uses to strengthen his hips or his ass or anything else?

The man has enough time under the bar to warrant some fucking respect. If you can’t muster that then fuck off.[/quote]

Incorrect, I never said I didnt respect him, I respect the fuck out of him. I just think its sad to see him doing something you’d see in a fucking mens health magazine, when hes produced some of the most innovative training methods for powerlifting.
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You called him a sell-out. Where I come from, that’s a disrespectful thing to say.

DB

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
OP I will say fuck you for your Avi, that alone shows you are a jealous little man. Go make a name for yourself when you grow up then come back and talk shit. That is all.

And brother Chris, Skoal long cut straight, flavoring is for pussies and be a real man and swallow. :slight_smile: [/quote]

Eh, I just like Wintergreen because the ladies tell me my breath is fresh, and I always swallow.[/quote]

Hahahahahaha, alright, I have used them all but not anymore. Some reason the flavored ones fuck up my lip. Also the fine grain of Co doesnt work for me, but 25 years ago I started with chewing tobacco so that is probably why. [/quote]

Yeah, I got some kind of lump on my lip, not sure what that is about. Guess I’ll go see the doc.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
OP I will say fuck you for your Avi, that alone shows you are a jealous little man. Go make a name for yourself when you grow up then come back and talk shit. That is all.

And brother Chris, Skoal long cut straight, flavoring is for pussies and be a real man and swallow. :slight_smile: [/quote]

Eh, I just like Wintergreen because the ladies tell me my breath is fresh, and I always swallow.[/quote]

Hahahahahaha, alright, I have used them all but not anymore. Some reason the flavored ones fuck up my lip. Also the fine grain of Co doesnt work for me, but 25 years ago I started with chewing tobacco so that is probably why. [/quote]

Yeah, I got some kind of lump on my lip, not sure what that is about. Guess I’ll go see the doc.[/quote]

Well you need to do that, but try switching to non-flavored seriously. And I left a comment in your referenced thread above.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:
Still waiting for a REAL powerlifters opinion on this. Someone that has trained under a Westside program, and knows the flaws of todays physical culture.

To be honest Im almost offended, Louie is one of my heroes because I thought he was just a bad ass powerlifter, no gimmicks no bullshit… but this plus the crossfit thing is just sad.[/quote]

<---------- REAL powerlifter, trained over 10 years under Westside program, and knows the flaws of some of the idiots that post here. And there is NOTHING wrong with crossfit.

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That last statement makes you not a real powerlifter…[/quote]

Lulz…so the competitions, the blood, the sweat, the tore hands, the strained muscles, the slipped discs is all nullified because someone would think that CrossFit would benefit a cross section of the population?[/quote]

Add a cervical laminectomy with plates and screws from C3-C7 and I competed less than a year after the surgery at Iron Island and still pulled 600. I need him to tell me what a “real powerlifter” is? LOL. I think crossfit is great and I’m pretty sure all the MMA fighters and other athletes using these methodologies (but maybe not calling it “crossfit”) can’t be wrong. Hell, at my age, I worry more about my cardiovascular health and less about my bench press. I wish I was in crossfit shape.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:
Still waiting for a REAL powerlifters opinion on this. Someone that has trained under a Westside program, and knows the flaws of todays physical culture.

To be honest Im almost offended, Louie is one of my heroes because I thought he was just a bad ass powerlifter, no gimmicks no bullshit… but this plus the crossfit thing is just sad.[/quote]

<---------- REAL powerlifter, trained over 10 years under Westside program, and knows the flaws of some of the idiots that post here. And there is NOTHING wrong with crossfit.

[/quote]

That last statement makes you not a real powerlifter…[/quote]

Lulz…so the competitions, the blood, the sweat, the tore hands, the strained muscles, the slipped discs is all nullified because someone would think that CrossFit would benefit a cross section of the population?[/quote]

Add a cervical laminectomy with plates and screws from C3-C7 and I competed less than a year after the surgery at Iron Island and still pulled 600. I need him to tell me what a “real powerlifter” is? LOL. I think crossfit is great and I’m pretty sure all the MMA fighters and other athletes using these methodologies (but maybe not calling it “crossfit”) can’t be wrong. Hell, at my age, I worry more about my cardiovascular health and less about my bench press. I wish I was in crossfit shape.[/quote]

I got the wife in Crossfit last year and she has turned back the clock to look like her early 20s again. She kept bugging me to go with her, so I went. FUCK that it was like two-a-days in football again I was sucking all the air out of the room. Do I want to look like that NO, but can I use some of that to get in healthy shape as I soon will turn 40 fuck yes I can.

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I don’t know what’s the problem with Crossfit. Why so many CF haters? Who has a problem with exercise that’s based on Oly lifts anyway? Not "hardcore’ enough for some of you?

Besides, If Louie was really a sellout, he’d be doing commercials for Subway.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:
I got the wife in Crossfit last year and she has turned back the clock to look like her early 20s again. She kept bugging me to go with her, so I went. FUCK that it was like two-a-days in football again I was sucking all the air out of the room. Do I want to look like that NO, but can I use some of that to get in healthy shape as I soon will turn 40 fuck yes I can. [/quote]

D,
I checked out your profile pics a while ago, and there’s just something sexy about a woman who does the Oly lifts.

Hi-5 to your wife!

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I don’t know what’s the problem with Crossfit. Why so many CF haters? Who has a problem with exercise that’s based on Oly lifts anyway? Not "hardcore’ enough for some of you?

Besides, If Louie was really a sellout, he’d be doing commercials for Subway. [/quote]

There you go again with the Subway hate.

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^ Thanks, I think she was already sexy but man the shape she has gotten into at 37. Outstanding.

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[quote]biglifter wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I don’t know what’s the problem with Crossfit. Why so many CF haters? Who has a problem with exercise that’s based on Oly lifts anyway? Not "hardcore’ enough for some of you?

Besides, If Louie was really a sellout, he’d be doing commercials for Subway. [/quote]

There you go again with the Subway hate.[/quote]

LOL!

Come on BL. You gotta admit they totally SKIMP on the meat!

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]biglifter wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I don’t know what’s the problem with Crossfit. Why so many CF haters? Who has a problem with exercise that’s based on Oly lifts anyway? Not "hardcore’ enough for some of you?

Besides, If Louie was really a sellout, he’d be doing commercials for Subway. [/quote]

There you go again with the Subway hate.[/quote]

LOL!

Come on BL. You gotta admit they totally SKIMP on the meat!
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I’ll give you that. I’m just not as scarred by the experience. Mildly bitter, but not full-on-hate-brought-me-over-to-the dark side like you. I do admire your passion, though.

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[quote]biglifter wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]biglifter wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I don’t know what’s the problem with Crossfit. Why so many CF haters? Who has a problem with exercise that’s based on Oly lifts anyway? Not "hardcore’ enough for some of you?

Besides, If Louie was really a sellout, he’d be doing commercials for Subway. [/quote]

There you go again with the Subway hate.[/quote]

LOL!

Come on BL. You gotta admit they totally SKIMP on the meat!
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I’ll give you that. I’m just not as scarred by the experience. Mildly bitter, but not full-on-hate-brought-me-over-to-the dark side like you. I do admire your passion, though.[/quote]

LOL!
Well, we’re talking about sammiches… so it damn well HAS to be right!
Besides, I’ll bet Louie Simmons doesn’t eat at Subway for that very reason.

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]biglifter wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]biglifter wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I don’t know what’s the problem with Crossfit. Why so many CF haters? Who has a problem with exercise that’s based on Oly lifts anyway? Not "hardcore’ enough for some of you?

Besides, If Louie was really a sellout, he’d be doing commercials for Subway. [/quote]

There you go again with the Subway hate.[/quote]

LOL!

Come on BL. You gotta admit they totally SKIMP on the meat!
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I’ll give you that. I’m just not as scarred by the experience. Mildly bitter, but not full-on-hate-brought-me-over-to-the dark side like you. I do admire your passion, though.[/quote]

LOL!
Well, we’re talking about sammiches… so it damn well HAS to be right!
Besides, I’ll bet Louie Simmons doesn’t eat at Subway for that very reason.
[/quote]

I was reading Dave Tates log at Elite and he eats subway every day, Three chicken breasts on flat bread for lunch.

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I’m no expert by any means and maybe he was having a brain fart of sorts when he was doing that exercise but it looked rubbish, kind of thing I see middle aged women doing in front of the mirrors in my gym! The guy trying it out looked completely indifferent to the exercise.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]biglifter wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]biglifter wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I don’t know what’s the problem with Crossfit. Why so many CF haters? Who has a problem with exercise that’s based on Oly lifts anyway? Not "hardcore’ enough for some of you?

Besides, If Louie was really a sellout, he’d be doing commercials for Subway. [/quote]

There you go again with the Subway hate.[/quote]

LOL!

Come on BL. You gotta admit they totally SKIMP on the meat!
[/quote]

I’ll give you that. I’m just not as scarred by the experience. Mildly bitter, but not full-on-hate-brought-me-over-to-the dark side like you. I do admire your passion, though.[/quote]

LOL!
Well, we’re talking about sammiches… so it damn well HAS to be right!
Besides, I’ll bet Louie Simmons doesn’t eat at Subway for that very reason.
[/quote]

I was reading Dave Tates log at Elite and he eats subway every day, Three chicken breasts on flat bread for lunch. [/quote]

I’m pretty sure he said he eats his lunch ON the subway everyday.

lol