Louie Simmons....WTF?

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[quote]Russaldo wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
http://westside-barbell.com/westside-articles/PDF.Files/02PDF/Pre%20Meet%20Training.pdf

Page 3, paragraph 1: On max effort day, you must push the muscles to their fullest extent. Try records in all types of good mornings, squats, and pulls. On both the dynamic effort and max effort days, you must push not only the major core exercises but also the special work, such as reverse hyperÃ???Ã??Ã?®5356,359 and 6,491,607b2 extensions, pull–throughs, back raises, glute/ham raises, and lat and ab work.

What are you French, can you not understand plain English?[/quote]

What dont you get? CORE and ABS are NOT THE SAME THING

Current physical culture made the same thing, look at olympic lifters and powerlifters BEFORE SIMMONS like 50’s status, like Tommy Kono… Core=Hips[/quote]

LOL.
Dude, what is wrong with you? You sound like one of these hipster pseudo-intellectuals. The core is what it is. You can’t just pull definitions out of your ass.
If you wanna play the definition game, if you look up idiot in the dictionary, you picture will be next to the entry. Really, just stop talking about shit you don’t know and think that you are superior to everyone.

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[quote]Waylander wrote:
http://www.combatgold1.co.uk/images/funny/misc/how-trolls-really-work.png

I bet the OP is going to say he was trolling, in order to try and save face from his catastrophic fuck up[/quote]

I completely stand by my statements. I dont care if everyone disagrees. It’s my opinion.

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[quote]Russaldo wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
Jesus christ…

calm down people.

I don’t think he intended to instigate a flame war.[/quote]

THANK YOU…

I post a video for discussion and everyone gets all ass hurt…

Its like telling christians you dont believe in god

CALM THE FUCK DOWN[/quote]

Well you failed miserably in attempting to start a “discussion.” You wrote:

“Louie Simmons…WTF?” as the title of your thread. Then underneath the video you wrote, “One of the greatest powerlifting coaches of all time… this saddens me.”

That’s disrespecting one of the greatest coaches in the world. And yet somehow you didn’t see this coming?[/quote]

Didnt know everyone would get ass hurt, like he’s their fucking daddy[/quote]

Seriously dude, you are the fucking idiot.

You didn’t come here and say, look at this vid, what are your thoughts about this movement, does it have merit. You might have had an intelligent discussion. Instead, you come here and say, look at this vid, LS is a sell out.

As for me not being a “real powerlifter” because I applaud crossfit, I’ll happily wear that. Fuck being a “real powerlifter” if that means sacrificing your health and your cardiovascular health. I have yet to learn of any “real powerlifter” making enough money solely from powerlifting that I would trade places with him. Who gives a fuck about your definition of “real powerlifter”?

You know what a “real powerlifter” is jerk off? That’s someone that shows up the day of the contest and puts his ass up on the bench, grips and rips the bar, and puts the bar on his shoulders and takes it down. It doesn’t matter how much they lift, it matters that they lift as much as they can. That’s a “real powerlifter”. Speaking of real powerlifters, what are your qualifications, other than not having a clue about something as basic as the “core”?

As far as me, I’m pretty sure that at twice your age, drug free, with the shittiest leverages you can have for powerlifting, that I’ve lifted more than you ever will. And guess what dickhead? If by chance you do lift more than me, I’d be the one on the side, cheering you on - and that dickhead, is a “real powerlifter”.

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And my final statement on this topic… I don’t think anyone here blindly follows him, at least I don’t. I use a westside template and I take ideas that I think work. I take other ideas from olympic lifting, bodybuilding, and strongman. In other words, I’ll take whatever I think can make me better and those that ultimately work for me.

As for the vid, and his statement that it works “the hell out of your hips”, did it ever occur to your pea brain that he was demonstrating the movement with light weights to teach the movement? Or that he was rehabbing someone with an injury?

You can take any movement, use light weights, and conclude that the movement is a “joke”. Add some weight, and what was a joke, becomes a challenging movement that has you sore in places you didn’t know you had places the next day.

At this point, your post is clearly a failure. Any response beyond now is just piling on. The thread deserves to die like a bad fart.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
Jesus christ…

calm down people.

I don’t think he intended to instigate a flame war.[/quote]

THANK YOU…

I post a video for discussion and everyone gets all ass hurt…

Its like telling christians you dont believe in god

CALM THE FUCK DOWN[/quote]

Well you failed miserably in attempting to start a “discussion.” You wrote:

“Louie Simmons…WTF?” as the title of your thread. Then underneath the video you wrote, “One of the greatest powerlifting coaches of all time… this saddens me.”

That’s disrespecting one of the greatest coaches in the world. And yet somehow you didn’t see this coming?[/quote]

Didnt know everyone would get ass hurt, like he’s their fucking daddy[/quote]

Seriously dude, you are the fucking idiot.

You didn’t come here and say, look at this vid, what are your thoughts about this movement, does it have merit. You might have had an intelligent discussion. Instead, you come here and say, look at this vid, LS is a sell out.

As for me not being a “real powerlifter” because I applaud crossfit, I’ll happily wear that. Fuck being a “real powerlifter” if that means sacrificing your health and your cardiovascular health. I have yet to learn of any “real powerlifter” making enough money solely from powerlifting that I would trade places with him. Who gives a fuck about your definition of “real powerlifter”?

You know what a “real powerlifter” is jerk off? That’s someone that shows up the day of the contest and puts his ass up on the bench, grips and rips the bar, and puts the bar on his shoulders and takes it down. It doesn’t matter how much they lift, it matters that they lift as much as they can. That’s a “real powerlifter”. Speaking of real powerlifters, what are your qualifications, other than not having a clue about something as basic as the “core”?

As far as me, I’m pretty sure that at twice your age, drug free, with the shittiest leverages you can have for powerlifting, that I’ve lifted more than you ever will. And guess what dickhead? If by chance you do lift more than me, I’d be the one on the side, cheering you on - and that dickhead, is a “real powerlifter”.[/quote]

applause

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Thread = Too long, too bitchy, didn’t read.

I was under the notion that Louie didn’t even want to be on the internet, let alone be popular. Maybe he still doesn’t, but knows it already happened, and just wants to go a different route for a while.

The kid in the video looked retarded doing the movement though.

EDIT: Bodyguard=Correct

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[quote]Russaldo wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:
Still waiting for a REAL powerlifters opinion on this. Someone that has trained under a Westside program, and knows the flaws of todays physical culture.

To be honest Im almost offended, Louie is one of my heroes because I thought he was just a bad ass powerlifter, no gimmicks no bullshit… but this plus the crossfit thing is just sad.[/quote]

You should probably shut your fucking whore mouth, since I’ll put 500 bucks down that you haven’t trained West side either. I know only a few people on this forum who can claim that, and that includes Louie, Dave Tate, Jim Wendler, and a few other powerlifters. So, unless your ass is sitting on that list, your talking out of it, fuck face.

You wanna talk shit and wait for motherfuckers who have trained on a “Westside” program, you’re gonna be waiting awhile because they don’t give two shits about your punk lady boy ass. I don’t pretend to speak for any of those guys really, but I can tell you what I’ve been told. Unless your ass was in London, Ohio squatting with Louie giving you cues, you have NOT trained under a “Westside” program. And, if you really studied “Westside” and Louie religiously, you’d know this. You’d know that Westside doesn’t have a program, they do what works and fuck the rest. Westside is an atmosphere, one that I’m sure your punk ass wouldn’t even find itself on the board. So stfu, and get back in the gym and stop talking out your ass on the internet.[/quote]

Thousands of people train with the Westside templet dip shit, once again, quit talking out your ass. Watch a fucking westside video and you’ll see that they do have a base training template.

Get the fucking sand out of your vagina, I posted this vid for discusion, not to hear about how much you hate me as a person.[/quote]

Sorry, I missed your stupidness at the top of your post.

It’s not a “Westside” template, it’s a periodization (or three week pendulum) program that Louie got (and uses as Westside) from the likes of reading Tudor Bompa or Vladimir Zatsiorsky. And, studying Soviet Union SHW Vasily Alexeev.

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[quote]Russaldo wrote:
I think everyone is just missing the point… [/quote]

I don’t think that’s it at all.

I’m sure you’d LIKE it to be that, but it’s not. It’s your misguided attempt to characterize Simmons as a sell out.

That’s what it is. Not “everyone but me” missing the point.

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[quote]Thy. wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:
quit looking for someone elses answer guys, make your own. The core if something is the center, your hips are in the middle of your body… everyone just reads other peoples stuff and assumes its fact… you know how all this stuff got started… free thinking, there was no book for simmons, he thought.[/quote]

Yes, he thought about Verkoshansky a lot.[/quote]

I laugh at this statemen, not you Thy, but what Russ said. Because if he was as “religious” as he said he is, he’d know that Louie picked up his shit from East Block and Russian training programs.

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[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:
I think everyone is just missing the point… [/quote]

I don’t think that’s it at all.

I’m sure you’d LIKE it to be that, but it’s not. It’s your misguided attempt to characterize Simmons as a sell out.

That’s what it is. Not “everyone but me” missing the point. [/quote]

He got fucking crossfit certified, so he could get paid to teach crossfit seminars… thats selling out… Crossfit and Powerlifting have NOTHING to do with one another

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This thread is still going?

lol

Russaldo: just stop posting in this thread. Save yourself.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:

Right, because a Abdominal-Core workout is VERY useful for a powerlifter…

I like your pics of a bunch of famous people that arent you
[/quote]

My pics have been up on this site numerous times.

And I’m sorry. I didn’t know that powerlifters never worked their abs. Thanks for showing everyone the light…

dipshit.

[/quote]

Your core is your HIPS not your Ab dumb fuck. Rectus Abdominis jack ass, its singular, one muscle.

TIP: How you know someone doesnt know shit about training, they think your “abs” are your core…

Do some research before you try to talk shit[/quote]

Actually, the ‘core’ is whatever the fuck you want it to be since no anatomical chart in the world lays it out.

But generally the ‘core’ is either:

A) the abdominal region

or

B) The lumbopelvic region PLUS the abdominal region. This is the more ‘correct’ version, or the more all-encompassing of relevant structures.

Try to do dsome research before you call others out.

BBB[/quote]

op i think you conveniently missed this post…

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[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
This thread is still going?

lol

Russaldo: just stop posting in this thread. Save yourself.[/quote]

down

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[quote]Russaldo wrote:

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:
I think everyone is just missing the point… [/quote]

I don’t think that’s it at all.

I’m sure you’d LIKE it to be that, but it’s not. It’s your misguided attempt to characterize Simmons as a sell out.

That’s what it is. Not “everyone but me” missing the point. [/quote]

He got fucking crossfit certified, so he could get paid to teach crossfit seminars… thats selling out… Crossfit and Powerlifting have NOTHING to do with one another[/quote]

Hey dumbass, he doesn’t just train powerlifters. I don’t understand why you’re trying to keep Louie in this box built from your perceptions about what Louie should or shouldn’t be doing. The fact that he learns or gets certified in something other than powerlifting doesn’t make him a sellout and doesn’t diminish what he’s done for powerlifting. Did you call Dave Tate a sellout when he started looking like a bodybuilder?

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[quote]Russaldo wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Russaldo wrote:
Still waiting for a REAL powerlifters opinion on this. Someone that has trained under a Westside program, and knows the flaws of todays physical culture.

To be honest Im almost offended, Louie is one of my heroes because I thought he was just a bad ass powerlifter, no gimmicks no bullshit… but this plus the crossfit thing is just sad.[/quote]

<---------- REAL powerlifter, trained over 10 years under Westside program, and knows the flaws of some of the idiots that post here. And there is NOTHING wrong with crossfit.

[/quote]

That last statement makes you not a real powerlifter…[/quote]

Lulz…so the competitions, the blood, the sweat, the tore hands, the strained muscles, the slipped discs is all nullified because someone would think that CrossFit would benefit a cross section of the population?

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Why is this sad? it’s a fucking kettlebelt is used for rehab and correcting muscular imbalances.

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[quote]Russaldo wrote:
It’s my opinion.[/quote]

Well, fuck why didn’t you say so? This whole time I thought you were trying to state facts. STFU.

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OP I will say fuck you for your Avi, that alone shows you are a jealous little man. Go make a name for yourself when you grow up then come back and talk shit. That is all.

And brother Chris, Skoal long cut straight, flavoring is for pussies and be a real man and swallow. :slight_smile:

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[quote]Russaldo wrote:
He got fucking crossfit certified, so he could get paid to teach crossfit seminars… thats selling out… Crossfit and Powerlifting have NOTHING to do with one another[/quote]

Dude - at 20 years old, I guess you don’t have the ability to take a step back and realize that your approach here is not working. Virtually every single response in this thread is contrary to your original post.

You know that old adage - “If one person thinks you’re an asshole, it’s probably them. If EVERYONE thinks you’re an asshole, it’s probably you.”

I think young guys don’t realize that people would have a lot more respect for them if they could simply admit they’re wrong, instead of doggedly attempting to take it on the chin and fight with every single person posting in the thread.

There is no chance of “winning” here. Just a bit of friendly advice. : )

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DJHT - looking THICK in that new avatar dude! : )