[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
I doubt that mr. slimthugger even knows what anyone here considers loose form and on which lifts one would use that and how.
Also, “rounded back” does ignore that fact that in reality a lot of world-class pullers use a rounded upper back to shorten the pull but obviously keep the lower back arched and abs braced.
You didn’t say which part of the back you mean…
And if you think that anyone here pulls with a rounded lower back then think again.
Somehow bending at the knees and not keeping your elbows totally locked on curls now equates to cheating and to us using injury-promoting form on every lift just to lift more weight? huh?
I use loose form on biceps curls and even some chest movements if you count not locking out or not touching the chest as such.
I am not sure how someone could label that “POOR FORM” especially since I have not had a significant injury in well over a decade.
I also keep fairly strict form on most shoulder movement because avoiding injury and doing this long term in order to make the most progress is the primary goal.
I really can’t get over how someone like that calls more experienced lifters “ignorant”. It isn’t like this is coming from people who are uneducated.
I agree. I wouldn’t call not locking out “loose form” though… But of course everyone here needs to do competition-form PL bp’s or else it’s wrong and you’re just being an ego-lifter, right?
Bad form would be to let your shoulders come forward and squirm around on the bench, but which big guy does that?
Also, locking out on benches just unnecessarily fatigues the tris, takes the stress of the pecs and you would have to use somewhat less weight…
All crap, seeing as:
a) I train my tris with heavy Smith RGB’s, IH-CGP’s, Pjr’s etc later on, I want to give a 100 percent on those… Much better for tricep-growth than bench presses.
b) I find that locking out under a huge load sucks for my elbows/knees. I’m not a competitive powerlifter and thus don’t see the need for it anyway.
I have no nagging injuries in these areas today (as opposed to all the competitive benchers or powerlifters at my gym, though I’m not saying that they necessarily will develop these conditions… well… I’m being diplomatic here…) and guess why that could be?
c) Using less weight means less pec growth. Goes back to a)… I can overload the muscles individually with more weight which also allows for easier progression.
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None of that matters. We are apparently ignorant according to the vastly intelligent “slimthugger” who, by the way, also has amazing development that rivals anything any of us have ever experienced based on his textbook form with every movement.
It doesn’t matter that you have thought it through and have good reasons for your choices. Clearly, someone parroting a personal trainer knows better.