[quote]sharkOnesie wrote:
[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:
[quote]sharkOnesie wrote:
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I really didn’t think those videos were indicative of ‘good’ BJJ.
However, a wins a win, especially in the street.
I have three disclaimers: (1) No one interfered. The fights remained one on one. (2) None of the fighters exhibited any particularly good fighting skill in any style. (3) BJJ was not the deciding factor that allowed victory.
I wonder if a new thread shouldn’t be opened with videos like this, where our members can pick apart the fight at a very technical level. That seems more useful than our usual ‘my style defeats yours’ debates. I think especially for BJJ street fights. I’m talking foot position, transitions, guards, grips, blocks, proper striking technique, proper kicking technique.
For example: In video one, I noticed the small guy didn’t attempt a full mount at all. He maintained side control throughout. His grip on the Kimura was inefficient. With his hand too far up the wrist his opponent’s bending wrist undermined the leverage. Little guy should have also transitioned to a five finger grip to further torque the kimura, whilst simultaneously dragging his elbows inwards to bring the opponents forearm and upper arm closer together at a reduced angle. I think that fight would have been over chop chop considering how much of a wobbly slob the TapouT hero was.
So, shall I start the thread?
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The Armbar ended it straight away and was the deciding factor. The triangle, guard word, escape all won it for the third video.
Of course your technique will go a bit in a street fight, their adrenaline is probably sky high.
I also think the probability of it evolving into a two on one situation is being over played in the thread. I have never seen it and I see fights every weekend with drunk testosterone filled men. Not once has it involved more than two people. I really do not think the whole oh you get your head kicked while on the ground is that big a part of fighting.
However if it does happen that is shitty, but 9 times out of ten multiple opponents would beat a solo guy, jiu jitsu or boxing right? Also I wouldn’t be bothered if two guys beat me, it is the humiliation of being beat by one guy that I hate.
One of my early fights I beat the shit out of this guy for calling my mate racist names all day, then his older brother came and found me and we fought for like 20 minutes and no one broke it up. He basically made me quit mentally, my hands were swollen from punching him and I could not close my right hand. I had both eyes swollen and my lip was split. I basically gave up he had me in mount my arms pinned and I could not do anything. He looked even worse but managed to beat me.
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You are at at the start of a new training lifestyle that can benefit you greatly. You can start using this new course to get healthy, strong and mentally tough. Those three things are the end really, and the most useful goals worth pursuing. That you become better at fighting is important but not essential to you living a good life. I sense in your posts a great deal of shame that you couldn’t account for yourself better in certain physical struggles. It is time for you to put those feelings to rest and to focus your energies on improving you physical self and your emotional and mental state. You should not recreate yourself just to throw this new you into a streetfight.
There is no shame in anything. Shame or embarrassment is thrust on you when you or others give the impression that you should have somehow done more. That’s bullshit. Start doing everything you can now, all the time and forever more to achieve your goals and if you can honestly say that you exhausted all your intelligent and proactive options then there is no shame to be had. Never quit, never let up. But don’t let some false sense of masculinity trap you in an alley one night surrounded by punks with knives. And that is not an analogy. That is many people’s reality when they focus on protecting their pride over their life.
