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[quote]marshaldteach wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]marshaldteach wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

Being more muscular and developed than Big Ron as a natural is

What is so wrong with admitting human beings have physical limitations? They’re jus facts.[/quote]

disagree with that statement

what if someone is born with weird genetics and puts on freakish amounts of muscle?

people who set limits are idiots.

Limits are for losers.
[/quote]

A natural who’s bigger and more muscular than Ronnie Coleman? lol

So you think a 2 second 100M dash is possible? So is flying like superman?

You must be trolling.[/quote]

sigh

why are so many retarded people on this forum

a natty being bigger than Ronnie isn’t out of the realm of possibilities, you’d have to be born with some weird genetics like I said

comparing that to flying like superman is idiotic

[/quote]

So you agree with some human limitations but not others?

If you think a natural trainee is going to step on stage in contest shape at 6 feet tall and 300+lbs then we most certainly agree. There are some very “retarded” people on this board.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

So you agree with some human limitations but not others?

If you think a natural trainee is going to step on stage in contest shape at 6 feet tall and 300+lbs then we most certainly agree. There are some very “retarded” people on this board.[/quote]

Read above.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]marshaldteach wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]marshaldteach wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

Being more muscular and developed than Big Ron as a natural is

What is so wrong with admitting human beings have physical limitations? They’re jus facts.[/quote]

disagree with that statement

what if someone is born with weird genetics and puts on freakish amounts of muscle?

people who set limits are idiots.

Limits are for losers.
[/quote]

A natural who’s bigger and more muscular than Ronnie Coleman? lol

So you think a 2 second 100M dash is possible? So is flying like superman?

You must be trolling.[/quote]

sigh

why are so many retarded people on this forum

a natty being bigger than Ronnie isn’t out of the realm of possibilities, you’d have to be born with some weird genetics like I said

comparing that to flying like superman is idiotic

[/quote]

Too many of these guys grew up thinking that everything that can be done has been done and is on youtube.

That kid born with the myostatin gene deficiency could POSSIBLY do it and he could POSSIBLY be natural.

For anyone to say NO human can do it is ridiculous and naive of how complex the human condition is.[/quote]

You also agree that this is a naturally attainable physique? Well, actually, a physique that is bigger and more muscular than this?

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I don’t know any the first photo was so small. Re posting it.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

You also agree that this is a naturally attainable physique? Well, actually, a physique that is bigger and more muscular than this?
[/quote]

Dear Lord. This is pointless. You do not understand what is possible or probable.

Ask yourself, are you saying that a person with a myostatin gene mutation can never come anywhere near that at all in any realm of possibility?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

Too many of these guys grew up thinking that everything that can be done has been done and is on youtube.

That kid born with the myostatin gene deficiency could POSSIBLY do it and he could POSSIBLY be natural.

For anyone to say NO human can do it is ridiculous and naive of how complex the human condition is.[/quote]

yep, some people on this board have no basic understanding of things like biology or genetics

7 billion people and they don’t think there are people out there could be born with freakish genetics

just blindly state things are impossible without being able to provide any evidence for their claims, then they want people to respect their credentials

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

You also agree that this is a naturally attainable physique? Well, actually, a physique that is bigger and more muscular than this?
[/quote]

Dear Lord. This is pointless. You do not understand what is possible or probable.

Ask yourself, are you saying that a person with a myostatin gene mutation can never come anywhere near that at all in any realm of possibility?[/quote]

So, in your opinion, this is or is not a physique that can be surpassed by a natural lifter?

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

So, in your opinion, this is or is not a physique that can be surpassed by a natural lifter?[/quote]

I already stated my opinion. You can not make a claim that this is “impossible” because it is NOT “impossible”.

Can most do it? No, they can not.

Is it impossible for ANY human to EVER do it?

No, it is not because there are too many mutations that can naturally occur to count out the possibility.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

So, in your opinion, this is or is not a physique that can be surpassed by a natural lifter?[/quote]

can you read? why ask obvious questions?

if someone did it with drugs someone can do it naturally if they were born with a weird medical condition

calling something impossible is idiotic

i think the people talking about impossible have no science background in general

maybe some math or biology or CS courses will help

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[quote]marshaldteach wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

So, in your opinion, this is or is not a physique that can be surpassed by a natural lifter?[/quote]

can you read? why ask obvious questions?

if someone did it with drugs someone can do it naturally if they were born with a weird medical condition

calling something impossible is idiotic

[/quote]

I think they are missing that science would never state that something that can occur in nature is an IMPOSSIBILITY.

Will it occur most of the time? No.

Does that mean we run around and state that no human can do it? No.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

So, in your opinion, this is or is not a physique that can be surpassed by a natural lifter?[/quote]

I already stated my opinion. You can not make a claim that this is “impossible” because it is NOT “impossible”.

Can most do it? No, they can not.

Is it impossible for ANY human to EVER do it?

No, it is not because there are too many mutations that can naturally occur to count out the possibility.[/quote]

You can leave out the quotation marks. No need to include them so that you can argue semantics and definitions.

It is ok to have a solid opinion about an issue and take ownership of what you think and believe.

You think Ronnie’s Physique could be surpassed by a natural lifter. That’s your option. Own it.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

You also agree that this is a naturally attainable physique? Well, actually, a physique that is bigger and more muscular than this?
[/quote]

Dear Lord. This is pointless. You do not understand what is possible or probable.

Ask yourself, are you saying that a person with a myostatin gene mutation can never come anywhere near that at all in any realm of possibility?[/quote]

So, in your opinion, this is or is not a physique that can be surpassed by a natural lifter?[/quote]
Smashingweights are you Gregron?

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[quote]marshaldteach wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

So, in your opinion, this is or is not a physique that can be surpassed by a natural lifter?[/quote]

can you read? why ask obvious questions?

if someone did it with drugs someone can do it naturally if they were born with a weird medical condition

calling something impossible is idiotic

i think the people talking about impossible have no science background in general

maybe some math or biology or CS courses will help
[/quote]

Can you answer a question or post without trying to insult or belittle someone?

You also believe that Ronnie’s physique can be surpassed by a natural. Cool. Why make a simple question so difficult?

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

You think Ronnie’s Physique could be surpassed by a natural lifter. That’s your option. Own it.[/quote]

so now you can take quotes out of context when you are losing an unrelated debate, great job

he will own it… and ur face too

[quote]Smashingweights wrote
You also believe that Ronnie’s physique can be surpassed by a natural. Cool. Why make a simple question so difficult?
[/quote]

keyword is “can”

get an education

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Step 1: inhibition of myostatin genetic expression
Step 2: acidophillic adenoma
Step 3: extremely active adrenal and testes (not gonna go through the mechanisms)
etc.
etc.

If you have the above a huge, incredibly low fat massive physique can be attained “naturally” without drug use. What is improbable is not impossible. You can’t really compare this to defying Newtonian physics.

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[quote]marshaldteach wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

You think Ronnie’s Physique could be surpassed by a natural lifter. That’s your option. Own it.[/quote]

so now you can take quotes out of context when you are losing an unrelated debate, great job

he will own it… and ur face too
[/quote]

I am not attempting to debate. I was asking a question. I would just like the forums to get back to being helpful and not debates.

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[quote]setto222 wrote:
Step 1: inhibition of myostatin genetic expression
Step 2: acidophillic adenoma
Step 3: extremely active adrenal and testes (not gonna go through the mechanisms)
etc.
etc.

If you have the above a huge, incredibly low fat massive physique can be attained “naturally” without drug use. What is improbable is not impossible. You can’t really compare this to defying Newtonian physics. [/quote]

Thank you.

That is the difference between REAL SCIENCE and flat out bias and opinion.

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[quote]steven alex wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

You also agree that this is a naturally attainable physique? Well, actually, a physique that is bigger and more muscular than this?
[/quote]

Dear Lord. This is pointless. You do not understand what is possible or probable.

Ask yourself, are you saying that a person with a myostatin gene mutation can never come anywhere near that at all in any realm of possibility?[/quote]

So, in your opinion, this is or is not a physique that can be surpassed by a natural lifter?[/quote]
Smashingweights are you Gregron?[/quote]

No, I am SmashingWeights. Are you gregron?

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]steven alex wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

You also agree that this is a naturally attainable physique? Well, actually, a physique that is bigger and more muscular than this?
[/quote]

Dear Lord. This is pointless. You do not understand what is possible or probable.

Ask yourself, are you saying that a person with a myostatin gene mutation can never come anywhere near that at all in any realm of possibility?[/quote]

So, in your opinion, this is or is not a physique that can be surpassed by a natural lifter?[/quote]
Smashingweights are you Gregron?[/quote]

No, I am SmashingWeights. Are you gregron?[/quote]
No but you forgot to capitalise Gregron though I am not sure if thats the way he did it also

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[quote]steven alex wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]steven alex wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

You also agree that this is a naturally attainable physique? Well, actually, a physique that is bigger and more muscular than this?
[/quote]

Dear Lord. This is pointless. You do not understand what is possible or probable.

Ask yourself, are you saying that a person with a myostatin gene mutation can never come anywhere near that at all in any realm of possibility?[/quote]

So, in your opinion, this is or is not a physique that can be surpassed by a natural lifter?[/quote]
Smashingweights are you Gregron?[/quote]

No, I am SmashingWeights. Are you gregron?[/quote]
No but you forgot to capitalise Gregron though I am not sure if thats the way he did it also[/quote]
I am typing from a mobile device and it is responsible for all of my capitalizations or lack thereof.
I will post an avatar photo just for you Mr Alex :slight_smile: