[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
A US citizen becoming president isn’t impossible.
Flying like superman is.
Being more muscular and developed than Big Ron as a natural is
Winning the Olympia at age 95 is.
What is so wrong with admitting human beings have physical limitations? They’re jus facts.[/quote]
nobody denies that but you can always get better at what you do than you are now imo
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I have lost many pics recently from my computer because it broke and I don’t have a smart phone and I’m not the biggest picture taker, but here’s one I have (yeah, it’s not shirtless). X, you can say I look worse all you want. I don’t look terrible. And at least I can wear a pair of Under Armor which some people think looks good on me. [/quote]
you > X and it’s a landslide. At least you have some quads lol.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I have lost many pics recently from my computer because it broke and I don’t have a smart phone and I’m not the biggest picture taker, but here’s one I have (yeah, it’s not shirtless). X, you can say I look worse all you want. I don’t look terrible. And at least I can wear a pair of Under Armor which some people think looks good on me. [/quote]
wow, not the greatest pic but quads seem to be highly developed! i am a little bit jealous right now!
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I have lost many pics recently from my computer because it broke and I don’t have a smart phone and I’m not the biggest picture taker, but here’s one I have (yeah, it’s not shirtless). X, you can say I look worse all you want. I don’t look terrible. And at least I can wear a pair of Under Armor which some people think looks good on me. [/quote]
you > X and it’s a landslide. At least you have some quads lol.
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Correct Post if not best post
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
A US citizen becoming president isn’t impossible.
Flying like superman is.
Being more muscular and developed than Big Ron as a natural is
Winning the Olympia at age 95 is.
What is so wrong with admitting human beings have physical limitations? They’re jus facts.[/quote]
Doesnt matter if he acknowledges them or not fact is there are limits in the physical arena however there are none in the creative field just listen to Led Zeppelin:)
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
A US citizen becoming president isn’t impossible.
Flying like superman is.
Being more muscular and developed than Big Ron as a natural is
Winning the Olympia at age 95 is.
What is so wrong with admitting human beings have physical limitations? They’re jus facts.[/quote]
No one said humans don’t have limitations, but setting these limits at levels that people are actually coming close to and passing makes no sense.
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
It is this type of thinking that send many people into drug use when they could have easily made even more progress naturally.
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And if that someone has that decent genetic and want to go somewhere with this, what is the advantage, in your opinion, of “making even more progress naturally”?
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Possibly none at all if they plan on competing as a life goal.
Possibly a lot if they plan on not using for most of their life and they have not learned to carry that level of muscle mass naturally at all.
I don’t know why I’m even posting this. It’s probably just gonna cause a ton more shit. But I can’t keep my mouth shut anymore about it.
I honestly have no idea at all where all this hatin on Professor X comes from. I mean for fucks sakes, it seems to be the fashionable thing now to say he’s got all kinds of personality disorders!?? (As if you could possibly diagnose someone over the internet)
Pretty much every post from Professor X I’ve ever seen has been reasonable and well-stated. The crowds of you who instantly pick apart everything he posts for very unclear reasons (I can only assume insecurity and jealousy) are the ones that I’m far more disturbed by, to be honest.
From a relatively outside perspective, it’s quite disturbing how some of you behave to another human being.
Steely’s two posts made the most sense in this whole thread (as his posts almost always do). I’m gonna follow in the footsteps of his last post. So bye.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
And at this point, being that you’ve gone from being annoying and bullshitting to outright disrespect and narcissism to the point of perversion, I hereby don’t give a damn about your sensitive self image or food addiction, or your sense of entitlement, or anything you have to say in your fantasy land and dreamworld. And at this point, if this were in real life, I would react the way Heavythrower would to your deplorable behavior: give you a short amount of time to step away from me or else I’d turn up the heat on the situation. And I wouldn’t give a damn about your size (read: 40 to 50 more pounds of fat that I’m not carrying).
Then we’d see just how much you push your blather and disrespect in real life amongst grown men. [/quote]
Is this post serious?
What deplorable behavior? That I questioned something you said that has no basis in science?
You made very specific limits that you only back down from when questioned several times.
the “80lbs limit” and the “15 year limit” specifically.
[quote]steven alex wrote:
I seriously dont see the relation between someone setting limits on how much mass one can gain and whether we would be bad parents by telling our kids never to aspire to being president ( Prime Minister in my kids’case ). There has to be a limit to all physical endeavours however much you put your fingers in your ears and refuse to listen. The upshot though is it doesnt matter that no human will ever run an hundred metres in two seconds it doesnt stop the people training for the next Olympics trying to get better and better. PX I think your attempt here to link those physical limits regards mass gains with what we pass onto our kids as guidelines about what they can achieve in the wider world is disingenuous. It seems like an effort to make those who agree that there are limits to gaining mass seem to be wet, unimaginative and without aspirations [/quote]
If you are setting limits right where people are literally saying, “hey, but I did that”…then yes, you will likely hold yourself back.
I see no problem relating that to life goals that are extreme and few can reach…like President or “MVP of the NFL”…or some kid from a poor background becoming a neurosurgeon. You don’t hit those goals thinking that you can’t do it because it is so rare.
[quote]Mr.Jeannay wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
A US citizen becoming president isn’t impossible.
Flying like superman is.
Being more muscular and developed than Big Ron as a natural is
Winning the Olympia at age 95 is.
What is so wrong with admitting human beings have physical limitations? They’re jus facts.[/quote]
nobody denies that but you can always get better at what you do than you are now imo[/quote]
Completely agree. No one has ever, to my knowledge, said not to be the best that they can be.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I have lost many pics recently from my computer because it broke and I don’t have a smart phone and I’m not the biggest picture taker, but here’s one I have (yeah, it’s not shirtless). X, you can say I look worse all you want. I don’t look terrible. And at least I can wear a pair of Under Armor which some people think looks good on me. [/quote]
you > X and it’s a landslide. At least you have some quads lol.
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I didn’t think my quads were non-existant even with the injuries.
But yes, Brick has nice quads.
Damn Brick! And all this time I thought you were some skinny nerd! Looking great man, jealous of the quads.
To weigh-in the on the argument: of course there are genetic limits to how much one can gain naturally. Anyone who has lifted hard + natty for more than a couple years consecutively knows that the gain sloowwwwwww down… big time. Do they stop all together? No, not for me at least. I’ve been training hard for about 10 years now, and I’m still making modest gains . If I’m super consistent with my diet and training, I can hope for small improvements: little more fullness to the rear delts, little more size on my woefully neglected calves, couple more reps/lbs on big lifts here and there. For me, that’s great natty progress after lifting pretty hard and consistently since I was 17.
This revelation may sound depressing to some, but there are a couple things to remember: 1. I bet a good amount of people viewing this thread are not close to reaching their genetic limit; 2. if you have reached your limit, or are getting close to maxing out your physique whilst natty, you probably look pretty damn good already; 3. if you wanna grow past your genetic limit, utilize AAS intelligently.
But I agree that imposing limits upon yourself before you have reached them is a bad practice. I like Bruce Lee’s quote that there are no limits, just plateaus… that may hold true in the broader sense of living one’s life, but unfortunately there is definitely a genetic limit as to how much muscle one can put on without the assistance of drugs. And if you lift + eat hard + consistently, you will find that limit sooner rather than later.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
A US citizen becoming president isn’t impossible.
Flying like superman is.
Being more muscular and developed than Big Ron as a natural is
Winning the Olympia at age 95 is.
What is so wrong with admitting human beings have physical limitations? They’re jus facts.[/quote]
No one said humans don’t have limitations, but setting these limits at levels that people are actually coming close to and passing makes no sense.[/quote]
So we agree that the human body has limitations, good.
No one is “setting” limits, people are giving their opinions on what they think the limits (that you agree humans have) are.
Some might think higher, some might think lower.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
A US citizen becoming president isn’t impossible.
Flying like superman is.
Being more muscular and developed than Big Ron as a natural is
Winning the Olympia at age 95 is.
What is so wrong with admitting human beings have physical limitations? They’re jus facts.[/quote]
No one said humans don’t have limitations, but setting these limits at levels that people are actually coming close to and passing makes no sense.[/quote]
So you agree that the human body has limitations, good.
No one is “setting” limits, people are giving their opinions on what they think the limits (that you agree humans have) are.
Some might think higher, some might think lower.[/quote]
No, some have literally said no natural can pass exactly 80lbs of lean body mass.
They are not saying that some can reach higher than this. They are saying it can NOT be done.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Being more muscular and developed than Big Ron as a natural is
What is so wrong with admitting human beings have physical limitations? They’re jus facts.[/quote]
disagree with that statement
what if someone is born with weird genetics and puts on freakish amounts of muscle?
people who set limits are idiots
and before it wasn’t “80 lbs” limit, it was “50 lbs”
people need to stop setting low goals for themselves and just keep increasing the weights and progressing on lifts, try breaking plateaus and see where they end up.
saying “I am 200 lbs and at X% of bodyfat, Y lbs of muscle… hit my limits, time to stop”… it’s a dumb mindset
even if it becomes more difficult to put on muscle as you age, or after a certain amount of years… does that mean you just stop? why even mention things like that?
I think people should work toward their goal physique, regardless of how ridiculous or difficult it is to get there… don’t even think about limits if you want to get there. limits are for losers who are looking for excuses to not try breaking through their plateaus
[quote]tworkinhard wrote:
Damn Brick! And all this time I thought you were some skinny nerd! Looking great man, jealous of the quads.
To weigh-in the on the argument: of course there are genetic limits to how much one can gain naturally. Anyone who has lifted hard + natty for more than a couple years consecutively knows that the gain sloowwwwwww down… big time. Do they stop all together? No, not for me at least. I’ve been training hard for about 10 years now, and I’m still making modest gains . If I’m super consistent with my diet and training, I can hope for small improvements: little more fullness to the rear delts, little more size on my woefully neglected calves, couple more reps/lbs on big lifts here and there. For me, that’s great natty progress after lifting pretty hard and consistently since I was 17.
This revelation may sound depressing to some, but there are a couple things to remember: 1. I bet a good amount of people viewing this thread are not close to reaching their genetic limit; 2. if you have reached your limit, or are getting close to maxing out your physique whilst natty, you probably look pretty damn good already; 3. if you wanna grow past your genetic limit, utilize AAS intelligently.
But I agree that imposing limits upon yourself before you have reached them is a bad practice. I like Bruce Lee’s quote that there are no limits, just plateaus… that may hold true in the broader sense of living one’s life, but unfortunately there is definitely a genetic limit as to how much muscle one can put on without the assistance of drugs. And if you lift + eat hard + consistently, you will find that limit sooner rather than later. [/quote]
Good gosh this was well put.
[quote]marshaldteach wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Being more muscular and developed than Big Ron as a natural is
What is so wrong with admitting human beings have physical limitations? They’re jus facts.[/quote]
disagree with that statement
what if someone is born with weird genetics and puts on freakish amounts of muscle?
people who set limits are idiots.
Limits are for losers.
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A natural who’s bigger and more muscular than Ronnie Coleman? lol
So you think a 2 second 100M dash is possible? So is flying like superman?
You must be trolling.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]marshaldteach wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Being more muscular and developed than Big Ron as a natural is
What is so wrong with admitting human beings have physical limitations? They’re jus facts.[/quote]
disagree with that statement
what if someone is born with weird genetics and puts on freakish amounts of muscle?
people who set limits are idiots.
Limits are for losers.
[/quote]
A natural who’s bigger and more muscular than Ronnie Coleman? lol
So you think a 2 second 100M dash is possible? So is flying like superman?
You must be trolling.[/quote]
sigh
why are so many retarded people on this forum
a natty being bigger than Ronnie isn’t out of the realm of possibilities, you’d have to be born with some weird genetics like I said
comparing that to flying like superman is idiotic
[quote]marshaldteach wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]marshaldteach wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Being more muscular and developed than Big Ron as a natural is
What is so wrong with admitting human beings have physical limitations? They’re jus facts.[/quote]
disagree with that statement
what if someone is born with weird genetics and puts on freakish amounts of muscle?
people who set limits are idiots.
Limits are for losers.
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A natural who’s bigger and more muscular than Ronnie Coleman? lol
So you think a 2 second 100M dash is possible? So is flying like superman?
You must be trolling.[/quote]
sigh
why are so many retarded people on this forum
a natty being bigger than Ronnie isn’t out of the realm of possibilities, you’d have to be born with some weird genetics like I said
comparing that to flying like superman is idiotic
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Too many of these guys grew up thinking that everything that can be done has been done and is on youtube.
That kid born with the myostatin gene deficiency could POSSIBLY do it and he could POSSIBLY be natural.
For anyone to say NO human can do it is ridiculous and naive of how complex the human condition is.
