[quote]hb50p wrote:
Woman joined the US army after recruiters told them repeatedly they would never see combat.
Some did.
Some died.
Positive thinking is sometimes priceless.[/quote]
?? I am military. Women had to fight for their place as equals in the military…and that change has only come about relatively recently.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]steven alex wrote:
I think those that get upset by listening to other people setting out limits seem weak willed to me. If you are the kind of person who believes in the power of the mind then just fucking use that power and ignore the people who offend you.[/quote]
Your perception of reality is defined by peers and environment. That means it is easy to say that these mental limits don’t matter. It is way harder to actually believe they don’t matter when faced with surpassing a goal that literally takes everything to get past.
People laughed at the Wright Brothers. Man wasn’t supposed to fly.[/quote]
Thing is you keep using as examples those that just said "Fuck it! I dont care you think what I am trying is unachievable I am going to do it " They had balls and didnt whinge like a little girl when someone says “No You Cant”
DoubleDuce, McGruff the Crime Dog came and spoke to my class when I was in 2nd grade.
Let me know if you would like to know more.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]steven alex wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ben Carson was told by every teacher in school that he was near retarded and would never be anything.
He is now one of the world’s most famous neurosurgeons.
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Actually, this belittles your point. If talking about things that haven’t been done and likely won’t be is so bad, Ben Carson shouldn’t be a neurosurgeon.
The fact that being told daily by his teachers that he wouldn’t amount to anything didn’t change anything is pretty much the opposite of what you are saying.[/quote]
Exactly Ben Carson mustnt have cried like a baby when people mentioned limits[/quote]
Crying about what people say and caring about what others believe while worrying that you might be held back by words is a real loser mentality. [/quote]
Fact
[quote]steven alex wrote:
Thing is you keep using as examples those that just said "Fuck it! I dont care you think what I am trying is unachievable I am going to do it " They had balls and didnt whinge like a little girl when someone says “No You Cant”[/quote]
? Do you understand most of the people who really stand out as true “inventors” had to endure everyone telling them that their work was a waste of time or “insane”?
They were not the ones talking constantly about what most people are limited by.
They are usually the ones who went against the grain and didn’t pay attention to “limits” aside from them being a challenge.
If you claim that takes balls…then logically believing those limits does not.
But with may more dead people we don’t. If there is no for you doubt that there were people who thought positively, but still died, then that is where we disagree. Apologies if this seems like a straw man (it isn’t intended as such)
Other than that I am not sure I disagree with much that you have said.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Crying about what people say and caring about what others believe while worrying that you might be held back by words is a real loser mentality. [/quote]
Then that means worrying about limits is a “losers mentality”.
You inadvertently agreed with me.
[quote]Legalsteel wrote:
But with may more dead people we don’t. If there is no for you doubt that there were people who thought positively, but still died, then that is where we disagree. Apologies if this seems like a straw man (it isn’t intended as such)
Other than that I am not sure I disagree with much that you have said. [/quote]
I am not arguing to know what people think. I simply said that it my guess that in general, the people who survive when most would have died did not have the mindset that “since most people died, I will too”.
Other than that, no, it does not appear we disagree.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Legalsteel wrote:
I am saying that attributing a mindset to any person who is dead is ridiculous. The ones who dies may have shared the positive mindset. Neither you or I can know either way. [/quote]
But…with many dead people, we have writings and meetings they had through life which tell us their mindset.
Then that is why I started this thread…,because it has now become the in thing to agree with Brick that there is a magical “80lbs limit” for all naturals.
People seem to be agreeing with that just to disagree with me…which is absurd.[/quote]
Aww big guy dont be up yourself so much, people arent agreeing with him to disagree with you ( what an arrogant self absorbed fuck you are at times ) the people who agree with him agree with his point which he puts very well.
I think there might be more overlap between stances than is being represented generally in this thread. But whatever. I think it’s time for me to abandon this thread altogether.
[quote]steven alex wrote:
Aww big guy dont be up yourself so much, people arent agreeing with him to disagree with you ( what an arrogant self absorbed fuck you are at times ) the people who agree with him agree with his point which he puts very well.[/quote]
Then if you agree with it, then you tell me where this “80lbs limit” is coming from and this “15 year limit”.
This is unbearably dumb at this point.
Someone stating that there is a limit doesn’t mean it can’t be surpassed and most certainly won’t prevent the person who could surpass it from doing so.
This is as blatant a case of arguing for the sale of arguing as it gets.
[quote]Legalsteel wrote:
I think there might be more overlap between stances than is being represented generally in this thread. But whatever. I think it’s time for me to abandon this thread altogether.[/quote]
There usually is. You are simply reading a lot of people try to make it seem like what I am writing is nonsense…when the truth is, if believing in limits that close to actual human achievement was what drove us as a species, we would all still be living in Africa.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
This is unbearably dumb at this point.
Someone stating that there is a limit doesn’t mean it can’t be surpassed and most certainly won’t prevent the person who could surpass it from doing so.
This is as blatant a case of arguing for the sale of arguing as it gets.[/quote]
I am flat out asking where this “80lbs limit” is coming from…and no one is able to answer this question.
That isn’t arguing for the sake of arguing.
Why state that no natural can pass a limit like this with no solid base in science fact?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]hb50p wrote:
Woman joined the US army after recruiters told them repeatedly they would never see combat.
Some did.
Some died.
Positive thinking is sometimes priceless.[/quote]
?? I am military. Women had to fight for their place as equals in the military…and that change has only come about relatively recently.[/quote]
You should be offended that a recruiter can lie to your mom/sister/daugther and cause their death without their consent.
Congrats, you earned the top position on my ignore list.
This site would be better off if the professor x detractors would simply place him on ignore and vice versa.
If BrownDisaster (although he cracks me up) SuperSayin, DoubleDuece, BrickHead, Zraw, Steven Alex and a few others who Surely I am forgetting would just place Professor X on ignore and he did the same in return this forum would be WAY better off.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]steven alex wrote:
Aww big guy dont be up yourself so much, people arent agreeing with him to disagree with you ( what an arrogant self absorbed fuck you are at times ) the people who agree with him agree with his point which he puts very well.[/quote]
Then if you agree with it, then you tell me where this “80lbs limit” is coming from and this “15 year limit”.[/quote]
I never said I agreed with the eighty pound limit but I am sure this argument has went through so many twists and turns I dont think everyone is arguing over the same thing anymore. Its kind of interesting though that despite him asking time and time again no-one has posted pics of someone doing this. Do I believe it? Sitting on the fence I am affraid, but for arguments sake say I said a five hundred pound limit is that doable? I mean its a limit. As for the fifteen year thing I will have to read what he wrote as I hardly ever read all posts in a thread
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
This is unbearably dumb at this point.
Someone stating that there is a limit doesn’t mean it can’t be surpassed and most certainly won’t prevent the person who could surpass it from doing so.
This is as blatant a case of arguing for the sale of arguing as it gets.[/quote]
I am flat out asking where this “80lbs limit” is coming from…and no one is able to answer this question.
That isn’t arguing for the sake of arguing.
Why state that no natural can pass a limit like this with no solid base in science fact?[/quote]
I am not going to get into a “debate” but just think about where most “limits” come from? Human experience.
People have been saying things are impossible since the beginning of time and they come to those conclusions based on the fact that it hadn’t been done yet.
I’ve seen a countless number of requests for someone to post a photo of someone who has surpassed these “limits” of 80 pounds or whatever it is and, to my knowledge, no one has posted a photo to disprove the limit? If I missed such a photo then reporting it here should clear things up rather quickly. If such a photo was already posted then this “debate” would have basically ended at that point. So I’m guessing that it hasn’t been posted yet?
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
This site would be better off if the professor x detractors would simply place him on ignore and vice versa.
If BrownDisaster (although he cracks me up) SuperSayin, DoubleDuece, BrickHead, Zraw, Steven Alex and a few others who Surely I am forgetting would just place Professor X on ignore and he did the same in return this forum would be WAY better off.[/quote]
What is strange is that they have to come into threads I started to keep this up.
It isn’t like I am following anyone else around the way they follow me.
I don’t need to put them on ignore. Nothing they write is of much concern to me the way what I write seems to force them to respond.
Bottom line, there is no basis for this specific “80lbs limit”…yet people would rather let that be stated as some kind of pseudo-fact and let someone tell newbs that no natural can pass this rather than dare let me discuss where these limits even come from.
[quote]steven alex wrote:
I never said I agreed with the eighty pound limit but I am sure this argument has went through so many twists and turns I dont think everyone is arguing over the same thing anymore. Its kind of interesting though that despite him asking time and time again no-one has posted pics of someone doing this. Do I believe it? Sitting on the fence I am affraid, but for arguments sake say I said a five hundred pound limit is that doable? I mean its a limit. As for the fifteen year thing I will have to read what he wrote as I hardly ever read all posts in a thread
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I posted my pictures as someone who did it and mentioned Kingbeef who has done it.
I am not sure why this counts as “no one” but oh well.