There is a secret if you’re tall. (I’m 6’3 with a 77" wingspan)
You. Need. To. Eat. More.
What do tall people do instead of the major lifts? or do they still do the big 3? and what is the theory behind the difference between training for a tall person?
[quote]King of Kings wrote:
For all lifters that are 6’2 and under,u shouldnt have much problems with filling out and looking big. Its when the really tall people 6’3 and up cant have a bastard of a time looking massive,even if they do weigh 270 pounds.
I have one friend that is 6’9 260 and he just looks like a really fit skinny lanky guy.
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Lebron James is 6’9 260 (or 6’8 250, depending on the website) and he doesn’t look close to skinny…
Not arguing at all, I totally agree with you, just curious how on earth your friend at 6’9 260 looks skinny and lanky, lol
[quote]forevernade wrote:
What do tall people do instead of the major lifts? or do they still do the big 3? and what is the theory behind the difference between training for a tall person?[/quote]
I do all 3…and my bench is pretty strong relatively speaking…
6’1 190… bench 240, squat 315, deadlift 320
[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
GuerillaZen wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
NickR24 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
GuerillaZen wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
paleassse. I’m over 6’ and growing like a weed. My numbers are rising like a bean stalk. Being tall does not make anything harder. Tall and short people have there advantages and disadvantageuous it all meets equilibream.
That’s why professional bodybuilding is filled with 6’5 monsters rolls eyes
it will be when I’m competeing
is that a joke?
austinbicep has shown interest in the pursuit of being a pro bodybuilder.
It’s not a joke, and he shouldn’t be made fun of for it.
gunter schliercamp was 6’3"
toney freeman is 6’3"
lou ferrigno was tall
Arnold was tall
dennis wolf is 6 feet tall
there was a 280lb guy at my show this last saturday that was 6’4" who is competing at the USA’s this coming week
place any tall “filled out” bodybuilder next to any short guy and the tall guy makes the short guy look small in all aspects. It just takes longer for the “longer muscled” aka “tall” athlete to fill out their frame that’s all…
Tall people are in bodybuilding. Maybe not as much as shorter people, but who knows, maybe taller people don’t get “into” weightlifting as easy as a shorter person.
whoever said the “rolls eyes” joke is just ignorant.
Gerdy
I have no choice but to laugh at this. I’m not ignorant in this particular matter at all. In fact, I have no interest in a pissing contest (even if you clearly do) but the undeniable TRUTH is that MOST professional bodybuilders are and have always been shorter in stature. Pointing out a few exceptions to to the rule does not invalidate the rule. Trying to pretend as if this does not exist is “ignorant.”
I am tall, but I don’t think it is an excuse. In my youth, I’ve held myself back more than my height ever could. But the OP made a simple statement that Bodybuilding (which to me means more than just the guy in gym lifting weights had a disadvantage if he were tall.
There is decades of anecdotal evidence to support this position. Pointing out six or seven or even fifty guys wouldn’t make it less true.
shorter people fill out their frames faster because of shorter muscles and a smaller frame. A taller person takes a little longer. That is it. To make a smartass comment about how most bodybuilders being short was not needed.
You are correct, more bodybuilders are short, but that doesn’t mean that tall people can’t bodybuild or are at a disadvantage. Ronnie Coleman is 5’11" and he is the greatest ever. Now maybe if tall is considered 7ft tall but I don’t think that is what we are talking about.
I didn’t see your reasoning for a smart ass comment and “rolls eyes” when debating this topic.
You don’t want a pissing match then get off the topic. The original post of this whole thread screams debate.
DG[/quote]
You’re taking the extremes and trying to generalize them. This is the exact same thing if I said that short people were not at a disadvantage in the NBA because Spud Webb, Mugsy Bogues, and Earl Boykins have all played for LONG careers that included all-star games and slam dunk contests and all were around 5’8"
Also, this is getting confusing with all the quoting of different people. I’d just like to distance myself from some of the comments written by other people in this thread. Furthermore, I’d like to reiterate that the average lifter shouldn’t worry about this too much. It might mean you have to work a little harder on bench or squat, but by the same token it helps in other lifts like deads. I speaking specifically to competitive bodybuilding.
People are interested in different things. Maybe its just a coincidence that there are more shorties than lankies in bodybuilding.
Next thing I’ll be hearing is white men cant jump.
[quote]Neebone wrote:
People are interested in different things. Maybe its just a coincidence that there are more shorties than lankies in bodybuilding.
Next thing I’ll be hearing is white men cant jump.
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Coincidences would be that RIGHT NOW there are more. But this trend is decades long.
[quote]ab_power wrote:
NickR24 wrote:
unlike today were u can go to your local gnc and get legal steroids or creatin,
Kill yourself.
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+1… and I smell troll. That, or idiot.
Kevin Nee is 6’3", just as another example.
I believe the original poster was referring to bodybuilding and filling out your physique, not power numbers.
I’m 6’7". You can’t tell me there’s no difference in myself and a 5’7" guy, in terms of filling out our physiques. Give me a break. Shorter guys can fill their frame out faster.
In general, the taller guys have to work harder to get the same look. It’s just the way it is. It’s one of the few areas where being short is an advantage, so deal with it. I had many college football offers solely because I’m tall, had a wide frame, and was fairly athletic. I wasn’t even that talented at football in high school. A 6’2" guy, who was better than me in high school got passed up, so I can’t complain. Eventually, I filled out in college and became good, but it took time.
That being said, I’m not sure that being just over 6’ is really a huge handicap.
proportions and leverages are relavent. A short person lifting a weight lifts it over less distance, this requires less total energy.
however tall people can have great leverages, bone, connective, muscle strength - witness many strongman competitors.
Shouldn’t make bodybuilding difficult as such, but may delay the appearance of being muscular on some taller and slimmer built types.
However, just get on with it anyway!
[quote]kayveeay wrote:
King of Kings wrote:
For all lifters that are 6’2 and under,u shouldnt have much problems with filling out and looking big. Its when the really tall people 6’3 and up cant have a bastard of a time looking massive,even if they do weigh 270 pounds.
I have one friend that is 6’9 260 and he just looks like a really fit skinny lanky guy.
Lebron James is 6’9 260 (or 6’8 250, depending on the website) and he doesn’t look close to skinny…
Not arguing at all, I totally agree with you, just curious how on earth your friend at 6’9 260 looks skinny and lanky, lol[/quote]
Chances are Lebron’s height and weight stats are not accurate. Most NBA players program height listings are padded, i.e. when Howard Stern was on Magic Johnson’s talk show they were the same height despite Magic being listed as 6’9" and Howard being 6’5". Shaq has even said in interviews that he is “only” 6’10". Basketball players are not the only athletes guilty of this. When Arnold S. was interviewed by Howie Long 6’5", Long was at least 6-8" taller than him.
6’4 here…
My training partner is 5’7 and looks like a damn Body builder; however, I am stronger on every lift than he is, yet far from a body builder.
I will say though all extra work aside a filled out 6’ + dude will look better than a monster 5’6’er all day.
[quote]GuerillaZen wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
GuerillaZen wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
NickR24 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
GuerillaZen wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
paleassse. I’m over 6’ and growing like a weed. My numbers are rising like a bean stalk. Being tall does not make anything harder. Tall and short people have there advantages and disadvantageuous it all meets equilibream.
That’s why professional bodybuilding is filled with 6’5 monsters rolls eyes
it will be when I’m competeing
is that a joke?
austinbicep has shown interest in the pursuit of being a pro bodybuilder.
It’s not a joke, and he shouldn’t be made fun of for it.
gunter schliercamp was 6’3"
toney freeman is 6’3"
lou ferrigno was tall
Arnold was tall
dennis wolf is 6 feet tall
there was a 280lb guy at my show this last saturday that was 6’4" who is competing at the USA’s this coming week
place any tall “filled out” bodybuilder next to any short guy and the tall guy makes the short guy look small in all aspects. It just takes longer for the “longer muscled” aka “tall” athlete to fill out their frame that’s all…
Tall people are in bodybuilding. Maybe not as much as shorter people, but who knows, maybe taller people don’t get “into” weightlifting as easy as a shorter person.
whoever said the “rolls eyes” joke is just ignorant.
Gerdy
I have no choice but to laugh at this. I’m not ignorant in this particular matter at all. In fact, I have no interest in a pissing contest (even if you clearly do) but the undeniable TRUTH is that MOST professional bodybuilders are and have always been shorter in stature. Pointing out a few exceptions to to the rule does not invalidate the rule. Trying to pretend as if this does not exist is “ignorant.”
I am tall, but I don’t think it is an excuse. In my youth, I’ve held myself back more than my height ever could. But the OP made a simple statement that Bodybuilding (which to me means more than just the guy in gym lifting weights had a disadvantage if he were tall.
There is decades of anecdotal evidence to support this position. Pointing out six or seven or even fifty guys wouldn’t make it less true.
shorter people fill out their frames faster because of shorter muscles and a smaller frame. A taller person takes a little longer. That is it. To make a smartass comment about how most bodybuilders being short was not needed.
You are correct, more bodybuilders are short, but that doesn’t mean that tall people can’t bodybuild or are at a disadvantage. Ronnie Coleman is 5’11" and he is the greatest ever. Now maybe if tall is considered 7ft tall but I don’t think that is what we are talking about.
I didn’t see your reasoning for a smart ass comment and “rolls eyes” when debating this topic.
You don’t want a pissing match then get off the topic. The original post of this whole thread screams debate.
DG
You’re taking the extremes and trying to generalize them. This is the exact same thing if I said that short people were not at a disadvantage in the NBA because Spud Webb, Mugsy Bogues, and Earl Boykins have all played for LONG careers that included all-star games and slam dunk contests and all were around 5’8"
Also, this is getting confusing with all the quoting of different people. I’d just like to distance myself from some of the comments written by other people in this thread. Furthermore, I’d like to reiterate that the average lifter shouldn’t worry about this too much. It might mean you have to work a little harder on bench or squat, but by the same token it helps in other lifts like deads. I speaking specifically to competitive bodybuilding.
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how this all started was when austin bicep said he is over 6 feet tall and growing like a weed with no problems. Then he said that both short and tall have advantages and disadvantages and it meets equilibrium (which is true). Then somebody said something in a sarcastic manner that their are sooo many tall bodybuilders and “rolls eyes”.
The NBA requires physical activity that a shorter/taller person can be affected. In bodybuilding its about how to show your physique.
My main point that I’m trying to make is…shorter people fill out faster, but when the taller guy fills out the shorter guy looks tiny next to him, for example, David Henry next to Dennis Wolf. It just takes a little longer for a taller guy to fill out because it usually requires adding a lot more weight than the shorter guy. Henry is just over 200 and wolf is 260-270. 10 lbs on a dood that’s 5’2" looks like 40 lbs on a person who is 6’3". I then explained this is because of a shorter .vs. longer muscle and was told to “read a f*cking book”.
I’m not an argumentitive person, I generally try and get along with everybody until I see people make worthless, smartass comments. If people can argue/discuss as you and I are now, then there wouldn’t be as many problems. Give an opinion, with evidence to support if you can, and debate. That’s how it works in my book. 
Gerdy
According to Eric Cressey, who has tons of experience working with basketball players, it’s only guys 6’4" and over that have to deal with significant structural issues. Dudes 6’3" and below just need to suck it up and train.
He talked about it in the Double Tap audio interview you can find here: http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=1754900
Mind you, the interview is from around 2005 and Shugart introduces Cressey as “an up and coming trainer”, but still.
[quote]getbigger66 wrote:
kayveeay wrote:
King of Kings wrote:
For all lifters that are 6’2 and under,u shouldnt have much problems with filling out and looking big. Its when the really tall people 6’3 and up cant have a bastard of a time looking massive,even if they do weigh 270 pounds.
I have one friend that is 6’9 260 and he just looks like a really fit skinny lanky guy.
Lebron James is 6’9 260 (or 6’8 250, depending on the website) and he doesn’t look close to skinny…
Not arguing at all, I totally agree with you, just curious how on earth your friend at 6’9 260 looks skinny and lanky, lol
Chances are Lebron’s height and weight stats are not accurate. Most NBA players program height listings are padded, i.e. when Howard Stern was on Magic Johnson’s talk show they were the same height despite Magic being listed as 6’9" and Howard being 6’5". Shaq has even said in interviews that he is “only” 6’10". Basketball players are not the only athletes guilty of this. When Arnold S. was interviewed by Howie Long 6’5", Long was at least 6-8" taller than him.
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Very good point. Don’t Bodybuilders do this too, though? Arnold says his height is 6’2… definitely isn’t
[quote]ab_power wrote:
NickR24 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
GuerillaZen wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
paleassse. I’m over 6’ and growing like a weed. My numbers are rising like a bean stalk. Being tall does not make anything harder. Tall and short people have there advantages and disadvantageuous it all meets equilibream.
That’s why professional bodybuilding is filled with 6’5 monsters rolls eyes
it will be when I’m competeing
is that a joke?
Why would it be a joke? This guy is young and has goals to compete one day. Looking at his progress so far, it’s hard not to wonder how far a long he will be in a few years. [/quote]
young his older than i am dipshit, and yeah spelling ohhh like i give a shit this isn’t anything that i care a whole lot about, im 6’4" i train with a kid whos fucking 15 and looks like a pro bodybuilder at 5’11" ===== same reason for why basketball players are big at their height they started working out the same time they started to grow
[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
GuerillaZen wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
GuerillaZen wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
NickR24 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
GuerillaZen wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
paleassse. I’m over 6’ and growing like a weed. My numbers are rising like a bean stalk. Being tall does not make anything harder. Tall and short people have there advantages and disadvantageuous it all meets equilibream.
That’s why professional bodybuilding is filled with 6’5 monsters rolls eyes
it will be when I’m competeing
is that a joke?
austinbicep has shown interest in the pursuit of being a pro bodybuilder.
It’s not a joke, and he shouldn’t be made fun of for it.
gunter schliercamp was 6’3"
toney freeman is 6’3"
lou ferrigno was tall
Arnold was tall
dennis wolf is 6 feet tall
there was a 280lb guy at my show this last saturday that was 6’4" who is competing at the USA’s this coming week
place any tall “filled out” bodybuilder next to any short guy and the tall guy makes the short guy look small in all aspects. It just takes longer for the “longer muscled” aka “tall” athlete to fill out their frame that’s all…
Tall people are in bodybuilding. Maybe not as much as shorter people, but who knows, maybe taller people don’t get “into” weightlifting as easy as a shorter person.
whoever said the “rolls eyes” joke is just ignorant.
Gerdy
I have no choice but to laugh at this. I’m not ignorant in this particular matter at all. In fact, I have no interest in a pissing contest (even if you clearly do) but the undeniable TRUTH is that MOST professional bodybuilders are and have always been shorter in stature. Pointing out a few exceptions to to the rule does not invalidate the rule. Trying to pretend as if this does not exist is “ignorant.”
I am tall, but I don’t think it is an excuse. In my youth, I’ve held myself back more than my height ever could. But the OP made a simple statement that Bodybuilding (which to me means more than just the guy in gym lifting weights had a disadvantage if he were tall.
There is decades of anecdotal evidence to support this position. Pointing out six or seven or even fifty guys wouldn’t make it less true.
shorter people fill out their frames faster because of shorter muscles and a smaller frame. A taller person takes a little longer. That is it. To make a smartass comment about how most bodybuilders being short was not needed.
You are correct, more bodybuilders are short, but that doesn’t mean that tall people can’t bodybuild or are at a disadvantage. Ronnie Coleman is 5’11" and he is the greatest ever. Now maybe if tall is considered 7ft tall but I don’t think that is what we are talking about.
I didn’t see your reasoning for a smart ass comment and “rolls eyes” when debating this topic.
You don’t want a pissing match then get off the topic. The original post of this whole thread screams debate.
DG
You’re taking the extremes and trying to generalize them. This is the exact same thing if I said that short people were not at a disadvantage in the NBA because Spud Webb, Mugsy Bogues, and Earl Boykins have all played for LONG careers that included all-star games and slam dunk contests and all were around 5’8"
Also, this is getting confusing with all the quoting of different people. I’d just like to distance myself from some of the comments written by other people in this thread. Furthermore, I’d like to reiterate that the average lifter shouldn’t worry about this too much. It might mean you have to work a little harder on bench or squat, but by the same token it helps in other lifts like deads. I speaking specifically to competitive bodybuilding.
how this all started was when austin bicep said he is over 6 feet tall and growing like a weed with no problems. Then he said that both short and tall have advantages and disadvantages and it meets equilibrium (which is true). Then somebody said something in a sarcastic manner that their are sooo many tall bodybuilders and “rolls eyes”.
The NBA requires physical activity that a shorter/taller person can be affected. In bodybuilding its about how to show your physique.
My main point that I’m trying to make is…shorter people fill out faster, but when the taller guy fills out the shorter guy looks tiny next to him, for example, David Henry next to Dennis Wolf. It just takes a little longer for a taller guy to fill out because it usually requires adding a lot more weight than the shorter guy. Henry is just over 200 and wolf is 260-270. 10 lbs on a dood that’s 5’2" looks like 40 lbs on a person who is 6’3". I then explained this is because of a shorter .vs. longer muscle and was told to “read a f*cking book”.
I’m not an argumentitive person, I generally try and get along with everybody until I see people make worthless, smartass comments. If people can argue/discuss as you and I are now, then there wouldn’t be as many problems. Give an opinion, with evidence to support if you can, and debate. That’s how it works in my book.
Gerdy[/quote]
I would agree with everything you have said here. But I would argue that and my argument is that there are far fewer tall guys who can fill out to the same level that shorter guys do (on a professional level). Sure, the ones who can are quite impressive, but there just aren’t as many that can attain such a high level.
Here’s a tall lifter, seems like he’s made great progress. Looking at his previous pics you’d think that it would be impossible to add considerable size to his frame.
You sir are an idiot.
It’s good to see they still let assholes post on the forums.
I’m 6’3" with a 78" wing span.
Gerdy is spot on from my experience. Initially, shorter guys fill out faster but taller guys will dwarf them after a few years. This has been proven true even at my level, which is just having bodybuilding as a hobby (no where near competition). There were shorter guys at my gym about 6 months ago lifting the same wieght as me with much thicker arms. I have dialed in my diet and trained hard to increase my strength, which lead to some indirect size increases.
You need to just focus on adding muscle mass anyway possible…just like anyone else.